this is what im considering getting but i dunno what amp to get, i want to stay audiobahn also :

2x Audiobahn AWIS12P Immortal series quad sub 12” $395.66 (2000watt RMS; 23hz-700hz response; 2ohm)

Audiobahn ABF29T ABF series speakers 6x9” $89.4 (250watts RMS; 20hz- 21khz response; 4ohm)

Audiobahn ABF46T ABF series speakers 4x6” $56.84(80watts RMS; 50hz-21khz response; 4ohm)

1x Audiobahn ACAP1P 1 Farad digital capacitor $149.99

2x Audiobahn CD312 LED illuminated grill 12” $81.10

1x Audiobahn A3451 CD/MP3 player HU $374.85

Qlogic QLECF212 82-92 camaro flushmount sub box 12” $228.95

if you can find any better suggestions or prices i'll be more than grateful

why the hell do you want all the same brand?

Do you think you'll get better sound? sponsorship?

Ok for the money of that sub you can get a brahma, WAY better than audiobahn.

A CAP? Might as well throw that buck fifty down the drain.


I have no exp with audiobahn head units

AND why the hell do people let people rape them on boxes?!!?!?!?!!?

Also i noticed you want to spend $81 on a grill but dont even list an amp!?

*hint* 98% of audiobahn is garbage, the amps are known to over heat. they are flashy and chromed to catch the eye of persons new to the car audio scene. The woofer lack SQ yeah some of them can get loud, but who wants to listen to just one loud "brrrrrrrrp"

on to the good stuff, they make a few distroblocks that are worth buying :-D....and the immortal series woofers that isnt made by audiobahn..or wasnt designed by..or something that they werent involved in is supposed to be a decent product...(but they recently chromed her to hell and back too)

..as of right now the only setup i could see maintaining the same brand through out the car would have to be JL.

..maybe Elemental once they get there amps and components out and for sale

in conclusion audiobahn is garbage


had to add more...

1. caps are useless, as has been stated.
2. audiobahn speakers suck (2-way, 3-way)..friend bough a pair of 6x9's for around 25 bucks i think he said...he wanted his money back...so that didnt instill much confifence in me.
3. audiobahn HU? ...i dont knwo what to say there except NO!!!!
4. yes, i have owned there subs and well they suck.

5. We're arent knocking you, justw arning you. We are glad you asked before you purchase(i hope)

Like blyth18md said about jl. Its hard sometimes to find a manufact that makes good everything.

For example i love jbl amps but their subs? No thankyou.

Seems like Audiobahn should be making rims as much as they like to chrome ****.

Check out Jbl, Ed, DD, adirea audio,kicker, inhuman,american bass. All would give you more for your money then Audiobahn.

check out some car audio forums to get some ideas as what sounds good and whats all show.

ya that was a list of what i wanted if you read... also no amp isted cuz i had no idea of what to get, also if you woulda read thru

ok well ignoring the audiobahn namesake what specs should i get for an amp ie power, frequency, channels, mono or stereo? im trying not to spend more than 500 bucks for an amp also

That depends on what your system is gonna be made of. How many subs? What rms are they? How many speakers?
Do you have any of the system now or are you looking?

I normally buy the head unit then work my way back, ei head unit, then front end speakers, then (in 3rd gen cases) 6x9's or a set of 6 1/2 components(much better than 6x9's) then i make my mind up on what sub(s) and how many i want. THen i think about amp(s). This way im not stuck with a amp that doesnt work too good with my system.

What did I miss? Capacitors aren't worth anything anymore? Why?

Caps never have been worth anything, more of a product sold on good marketting really.

Number one, i have dimming head lites (no i dont just giving an example) so i bought a cap. <~~ WRONG , if you have dimming head lites then FIRST you should upgrade the 3 underhood wires (im sure everyone and their grandma knows what ones its been talked about so much) then if you still have the problem you need a higher output alt BECAUSE if your charging system can not supply enough current to keep the lites from dimming then adding a cap (which needs to be chearged ) will cause more of a strain on an already weak system.
Sure caps store blah blah blah and release yada yada helping bass, BUT a cap releases ALL its reserve SO FAST its really useless!
Just a bandaid for a car that needs a bigger alt.

BTW some people SWEAR they help, my uncle is one of them, he had his car metered once, i forget the numbers but they wernt too impressive, he swore the numbers would be better once he got his cap. Got his cap, went back and got the same numbers!

caps help voltage to the amps, they arent going to change headlight dimming like everyone thinks.

im not getting into this useless arguement again, caps are worthless in the real world.
It puts out power faster than a cars battery, correct, BUT it puts out its intire reserve in less than a second, so that means your deep bass music just drained your cap dry and even now while your bass note is hitting your cap is trying to drawl current to recharge causing more harm than good in a way.
Caps keep voltage more stable?
AAAAAAHHHHNNNNNTTTTTTT wrong agian!
You get the most power when your car is running correct?
IF you get 13.8 with the car running the best your cap is gonna do is equal the alts voltage since it gets its power from the alt.
Bass note hits, alt drops because its too small to handle the audio amp(s) drain, the caps voltage drops also, it discharges WAY too fast to help in any way other than on paper.
My uncle has a 1400 rms amp and two jl 12's (woohoo i know who cares, not me) he was one of those "caps are gods" people, he gained .5db METERED when he put his 2 farad cap in. The human ear cant even tell the difference with a .5 gain!!!

For the price of some of these caps you could save up and buy the real answer to the problem, a high output alt and thick wires under the hood.

Caps aren't a source of current, they're a filter. They charge just as fast as they discharge (well maybe a little slower but we're talking thousandths of a second here) so there is minimal draw. But you guys are mostly right. They're way overused in pre-amp audio setups where any benefit they do is most likely unnoticable. As was said, if you're lights are dimming then you need a higher output alt (or dual batts) a cap probably won't make much difference. Maybe if you had like a 1000 Farad cap but that would probably weigh what your car does. They'd be better used after the amp or connected directly to the speaker but then you're messing with the engineering of the amp and a good amp should have all the filtering it needs for it's specified range. Or you can wire 'em in series with the speaker to change the freq response.

the most overlooked part of a stereo setup is having a healthy electrical system that can support your equipment. A cap will only mask your signs of a weak electrical system.

What if you already had a high output alternator and thick wires? A cap's still useless?

on paper no .You can gain very little, so little you wont hear the diff. BUT in a comp you can win by a very small amount so i guess it could come in handy in that case. BUT WAYYYYYYYYY to many people buy a cap when they have a 2k amp and a stock electrical system and think its the answer to all their problems. In that stituation a cap is doing nothing. Caps are misused really.

As far as sub/amp choices go,you can't go wrong with
a pair of infinity perfect 10.1 10" subs and a JBL BP-600.1 amp.
Subs 350 watt rms,1400 watt peak....Amp 300 watt rms x2.
Check out about any caraudio forum and you will see.
This is what I have for my low end.
Price.....$450 shipped to my door.
Kerry

may people have had good results running two perfect 12s sealed off of a JBL1200.1. The newer versions of the perfects can take the power.

I think boomin boy hit it about the caps a few posts up! I have an old coach that is an electrician and builds alot of high end stereos for fun. They had a suburban that was filled with audio gear a few years back that you literally couldnt be in the truck with teh system on. WE're talkign knoking stuff off walls and shelves and crap. But anyway he knows his stuff and i go to him for any advice i need he told me way back when that the minute you start keeping brands is when you have problems. For instance all pioneer or all sony. Liek he said you go through them and get teh best product each makes. For example Audiobahn may make good blocks but the jl subs are better and teh sony head unit is what i like etc. etc. I say go with fosgate havent had a prob with any of their stuff yet.

ive strayed since my first post im getting a sony HU (cdx-m8800) soon...... i still want audiobahn subs( 2 alum12q Sound Q: aluminum cone 12in) i prolly wont get a cap. but i need to know what amp/amps should i get. im really poor right now and want at least 300-400 RMS to each sub so im thinkin of two mono amps

http://www.carsound.com/UBB/ultimate...c;f=1;t=022337

that site has a really good cap test.

how much would you like to pay for the amp.

well im really good at finding cheap prices but im wanting aroun or lower than $300-$400.

oh yeah if you guys are to lazy to look up the specs of teh subs( im only gunna amp the subs for now). they are 12inch, 1000RMS, 120 oz magnet, 18hz-500Khz response, 96.4db sensitivity, 3in dual 6ohm voice coil, 3ohm or 12 ohm operation. remember im getting two.

here they are( not bought yet tho)

WOW a sony xploded head unit and some audioblah subs! Hook up a rockwood amp and your bumpin man.

is sarcasm and neg comments all your good for bro cuz all ur post in the other threads all seem to be negative.... i want advice on specs not criticism on name brands. i know too many ppl who would only put audiobahn in theyre cars to listen to you bashers.... from now on unless its gunna help me choose something by looking at specs you needn't reply to this thread

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oh yeah if you guys are to lazy to look up the specs of teh subs ____________________________________________________

You are the one who is asking all these questions but your calling us lazy? But then you cry about sarcasim? Theirs a reason no one is responding to your post dude! Think about it!

im helping myself by helping the others know what im lookig at. i meant lazy in a good way, i mean who knows the specs of these subs off the top of theyre heads or is gunna actually look them up..... and im asking these questions cuz i dont know much about this.... i have no clue how to wire this crap i have a friend thats gunna teach me tho. i know what i want but not much about how it is put together

pheonix gold 1200.1 i paided 375 shipped for mine from sounddomain.com Lots of power very good amp at half of its original price.

cool see this is help full a name of a part..... helpful advice... non biased.... thanks alot ill check into it

I would certainly rethink the head unit man. Sony is going downhill fast. So far I've had 3 Sony decks and they have all seemmed to be crap. Skipping, won't read Cd's when it's cold, etc., etc. I have a system hitting 147 db with the head unit skipping every 2 sec. If I were you look into some Alpine or Kenwood head units. Money much better spent definitely.

ya i have rethought the sony... imlike a friggin chick( no offense but the chicks i deal with have trouble making up theyr minds)... ive heard good stuff about eclipse are they any good from personal experience/friends exp.? :lala:

Glad to hear you changed your mind,. Eclipse is MUCH better than sony. Im sure you'd be happy with it. I wasnt being biased before , just hate to see someone waiste money. Alot of people buy sony crap thinking" Sony, well known name, must be good" and end up hating the junk.

yeah im sorry for burning you but i dont like being told what to do... or that im wrong. ive heard really good things about eclipse but i cant find any place to buy them... online or otherwise. oh and i guess sony car stuff may suck but i have the sony minidisk palyer and i love it, and i love the cheapo sony earplugs.

call 1800 55 ECLIPSE to find a local retailer.

muchas gracias(thats thanks) do you know when the new 2k4 stuff is coming out id like to know how much the HU model 8454 is gunna be

it should be out in a month.

a month like in may?? awsome

make sure you Dynamat the back half of your car, this stuff will keep the rattling and shaking to a minim. esp. if you have such a high power amp. trust me, after i did that to my car, it sounded 10x better.
are you going to have a custom box for your subs???

im thinkiing of a q-customs http://www.carstereopro.com/qlogic/o...o_firebird.htm i can find it at a lower price too