so i found this speaker box online would it fit in my 86' even though is for a 4th gen? the link is on the bottom. http://www.amazon.com/Atrend-12-Inch-Enclosure-Camaro-Trans/dp/B0013MT58C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1302477461&sr=8-1

 

Doubt it - there's a tad difference in the rear of a 4th gen car - more rounded in the rear interior vs. a 3rd gen.

 

alritey thanks cause its been difficult looking for a speakerbox

 

I've never heard of any difference that would prevent a speaker box from fitting 82-02.

So what is the difference that makes you think it won't fit, camaronewbie?

 

Common sense says if they could be interchanged, Everyone on here would be running the 4th gen boxes with slots for the t-tops.

Just shooting in the dark here.

 

It might fit. A dead body will fit also, but it's not very appealling.

Why not build your own? There's a sticky with dimensions and instructions here for a perfect fit build-it-yourself box.

I just made a shelf that rests on the little humps on each side of the rear - monted my amp on the underside center, and my subs on each side - works great! Might not "thump" the windows out of the house 2 blocks away, but I get nice bass hits with no box at all.

 

So you can say "It won't fit.", but you can't back that up & explain why not? And what's with the necrophilia statement?

If the rear axle fits, the gas tank fits, the rear seats fit, the LCAs fit & the PHB fits? That points towards the rear dimensions of these cars matching. I understand that some of that has nothing to do with interior dimensions, but it still leans towards most everything matching really close.

If the 4th gens are only slightly smaller, then just some trimming might fix the fit issue. If they are slightly larger, then the box might drop right in, with just a little wiggle room that could be filled with some extra padding or something.

Not everyone has the tools, or access to them, to build a box themselves. Let's try helping someone to find out why it will or will not fit, instead of just making general statements.

 

-face palm- How about this? http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/stereo...t-4th-gen.html

If we can't figure out if a 4th gen fits in a 3rd gen, We can see if a 3rd gen fits in a 4th. lol

Maybe it would go, just be to small.

 

1) I didn't say it wouldn't, I said I doubt it.

2) I own a 1992 and a 1997, so I have both cars in the driveway. I'm very well aware of what swaps and what doesn't. The interiors are completely diffeent between the two cars. Which is a body thing, since these cars are all unibody cars. A 4th gen is more rounded, has completely different interior plastics and such because the body is different - sure it has the same holes underneath for axles, gas tanks, etc. But inside, the shape of the rear hatch are is completely different.

3) Why have the OP waste money trying to modify something not designed to fit, when for way less cost, and the SAME tools needed to modify - he could build his own box? All it takes is a jigsaw ($15), mdf board ($25), carpet cover ($10), and glue ($5) - plus the FREE instructions here, and 2 hours of time.

4) And I offered him an alternative to a box, that takes 10 minutes to make, and works really well. I think I'm being extremely helpful here. But if it makes you happy, I'll go outside and take measurements for you as well.

 

OK - measurements ...

3rd gen:
A = 41.5 inches
B = 14 inches
C = 30 inches

4th gen:
A = 36.5 inches
B = 15 inches
C = 31 inches

Both wells are 8 inches deep from the humps on left/right to the bottom.

A 4th gen box, if made to fit the 4th gen well, is going to be 5 inches too short at the top (left to right), 1 inch too wide (front to back), and 1 inch too long in the bottom hole (from left hump to right hump). This assumes you remove the T-top holders in the 4th gen rear.

Below is a pic of the 4th gen trunk, with the A B C marked.

This is why I originally said I doubt it. Having both cars here in my driveway, I don't need to take measurements to see that there is a large difference between generations, but I took them for you folks that can't look at both side-by-side.

 

Cool.
"Third gen box is 41" wide, 4th gen is 37"."

Your link shows that in at least 1 direction, it would fit.

According to the above provided link provided by fadedirocz28, the 4th gen box is narrower than the 3rd gen box, so it should fit in at least 1 dimension. Just gotta check the rest for fitment. Maybe not exact & could use padding/spacers to make it fit better, but it would fit.

How is someone going to get a 4'x8' sheet home to cut, without a truck? Not gonna happen in a 3rd gen. Yes, HD/Lowes/etc. can cut 4x8s for you, but I've learned not to trust their cuts very much. I'd rather bring 2x4s home sticking out the hatch, than trust their cuts for some stuff.

And I've read threads about the TGO linked to "instructions" not being correct on the dimensions.

 

I have a fourth gen box in my third gen.. The part that is a trouble spot is the rear where the box is notched to fit the fourth gens rear plastc panel. It sticks out too far and looks clearly out of place in the third gen. In order for me to fit it in my third gen, I had to cut off the rear portion and remove the rear trunk plastic. When I bought the box I was told it was for a third gen, but it had a tag inside that said for 4th. Just get a third gen box or make your own.

 

Bradley do you have any pictures? I would gladly sacrifice fit if its the box with slots for t-tops.

 

They sell the mdf in 2 x 4 chunks, as well as 4 x 4 chunks also.

Like I said, might fit, but so will a dead body - I imagine both look about the same without alot of make-up and grooming.

It's $69. 3rd gen boxes are all over ebay for $109 and free shipping:

http://cgi.ebay.com/CHEVY-CAMARO-82-...item483fae895a

You'll spend $40 in aggravation, trouble, time, money trying to make something work where it wasn't intended to. 1/2 that cost and you can build your own.

But - go with the yahoo's since they seem to have the majority rule on this thread - spend your time/money rigging up something that will never look good. I just see no use wasting time/money on something I know I'll not be happy with.

 

Theres no t-top slot in mine.. ?

I'll try to get a couple pics.

 

A 4x8 sheet of MDF cut in half will fit in a Thirdgen... I fit it in my Camaro to build my subwoofer box.

 

Most home reno stores will make the major cuts for you for about a $1 a cut, just go off peak time. They will only make the straight through cuts but you can start with a 4X8 or a 4X4 and have them do the major straight cuts and all that is left is the more detailed cuts, notches and speaker holes. I have done this many times to build all kinds of furniture.

All said and done it may be less headache to just buy a third gen box pre-made.

Short of that you can make the fourth gen box fit via brute force and ignorance (brute force being my sledgehammer, ignorance my pry-bar), although I usually reserve these for home reno "disassembly".

 

Wow....tgo has filled up with some...awesome members since I was last on, camaronewbie I'm with you on this one. Pure stupidity this guys just agruing for the sake of arguing.

To the OP fact is you can get the proper prefab box cheap. OR you can work with a 4th gen box and deal with it looking like a turd. If you want cheap bass make a baffle board. If you want a fitted box pony up the extra 40 bucks, its that simple, this forum gives you everything you need to build the proper box, baffles boards you name it. How about you go to your local car audio shop the does custom work and ask them how much they'd charge to build a box for the rear of the car....I'm willing to bet after hearing the price you'll be lovin that 100$ mark, I don't build them cheap last one I did went out the door for about 250 plus materials

Just my 2 cents

 

I work at Lowe's making cuts...

 

OK. Doesn't change MY experience in MY area. HD/Lowes/Ace....Always good for rough cuts, but don't expect anything more accurate than within 1/4". Fine if it is long & can be trimmed down, but that variance extends into other pieces needed to be trimmed/recut/remade to accommodate the mis-cut part.

 

alright instead of making a stupid argument out of nothing let me throw out a few points. In my town (and I've heard Lowes and Menards do this too) they will deliver the sheet to your house or wherever you want it. Now as far as building your own speaker box there are other advantages too for instance do you trust the people who built your box I personally have never seen a box in a store I would want to use because #1. I don't trust their sealing techniques (and I'm sure some are better than others)
#2. how do you know what kind of materials they are using? I like to only use 3/4" MDF and the face of it might be (where the speakers mount) but how do you know about the rest of it? A box is 6 sides and it would be very hard to know for sure what the other sides are at least in thickness.
#3. Every sub you buy has certain specs they recommend as far as cubic feet, ported non ported or maybe a band pass box. If you buy one are limited to what they have made for you.
#4. You are also limited to what speakers you can use for example maybe the box you buy is designed for 2 10" subs when you would like to run 1 12" sub or maybe 2 12" subs or maybe you want to go with the square solo barics. The sub options out there are endless unless you buy somebody's box.
#5. You are also limited on where you can mount the box and the shape. Maybe you want to put your box in the rear trunk well or maybe in the spare tire area or maybe you want to build it so it is totally hidden well you can't if you buy somebody's box.

It really is not hard to build a speaker box at all and honestly that is the only way I would go, I have always bought my subs then built my box to their specs and I have always had great sounding systems (even with cheap subs).

 

i have a 4th gen box in my third gen you just have to modify the slot were the trunk latch its not that hard lol it still doesnt go all the way down but it works fine

 

So youre fine with your trunk not latching all the way down? I dont see why so many people insist on making things for 4th gens fit on 3rd gens when you can get 3rd gen SPECIFIC peices for just a little bit more $ up front and no $ or time modifying it to fit...

 

my trunk latches fine babe

 

Then what are you refering to that doesnt "go all the way down"....and did you seriously just call me babe?