Narrowed it down to three?
Narrowed it down to three?
I'm going to get three 12" subs, and here are the choices, which is the best for the best price, JL audio 12w6- 179.99, Pioneer Premier dual voice coil- $129.99, or Rockford Fosgate dual Voice coil, (the new style ones)- 179.99. here are the pictures of them.
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191(3.1)V6 1992 Pontiac Firebird,K&N drop in filter, bosch patinum spark plugs, Pioneer reciver, kenwood 4x6's, sony xplod 6x9's, two kenwood tornado 12's with a 300 watt jenson running them, check it out at www.geocities.com/my_92firebird
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191(3.1)V6 1992 Pontiac Firebird,K&N drop in filter, bosch patinum spark plugs, Pioneer reciver, kenwood 4x6's, sony xplod 6x9's, two kenwood tornado 12's with a 300 watt jenson running them, check it out at www.geocities.com/my_92firebird
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191(3.1)V6 1992 Pontiac Firebird,K&N drop in filter, bosch patinum spark plugs, Pioneer reciver, kenwood 4x6's, sony xplod 6x9's, two kenwood tornado 12's with a 300 watt jenson running them, check it out at www.geocities.com/my_92firebird
JL Audio!!!!
The 12w6s can not be beat.
Run 3 parallel and only draw a total of 4 ohms on a mono amp and be prepared to replace windows.....
Fostgate is not close and Pioneer is not even in the same class....
The 12w6s can not be beat.
Run 3 parallel and only draw a total of 4 ohms on a mono amp and be prepared to replace windows.....
Fostgate is not close and Pioneer is not even in the same class....
Get the JL Audio you'll love them! I had a honda accord with a wall in it with 4 15w6's powered by an Orion 425 HCCA amp bridged down to 1 1/2 an ohms. The amp was 25 watt x 4 channels and was stable to 1/2 an ohm. I was putting out about 800 watts. I never had it metered but it slammed! And having 6ohm speakers gives you much more flexibility. And I use to work at Credance Speaker where we built JLAudio, Kicker, and MTX. The JL's were tighter and much smoother than the others. While the Kickers took the power and boomed and wanted to be slammed. And the MTX's just plain sucked. I know I was the tester. I test the speakers for sound quality by running them through a full bandwidth test a different volumes to check for vibrations from the leads, magnet chips, and etc. Go with the JL Audios.
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'87 Trans Am
305 TPI:
160 Degree Theremostat
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Spark Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
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'87 Trans Am
305 TPI:
160 Degree Theremostat
Accel 300+ 8.8 Racing Wires
Accel Super Coil
Bosch Spark Plugs
Custom Ram Air with K&N
I'm really not impressed at all with this years rockford lineup.. There are only very minor adjustments to them over last years line and I like the oldschool look of the older ones more than the new ones..
yea i'll probley go with the JL's
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From: PORT RICHEY, FLORIDA
Car: 1983 Camaro Sport Coupe
Engine: 1986 305 C.I.D. Bored .030 over
Transmission: TH350 W/Shift Kit
Axle/Gears: 3:08
I say go with the AUDIOBAHN
12 Inch High Excursion Subwoofer
Model AW1200X
Manufacturer: Audiobahn
Retail:
Your cost: $199.99
Model AW1200X
120 oz. Double Stacked Strontium Magnets | Power Handling: 700 watts R.M.S. | Frequency Response: 20Hz – 500Hz | Efficiency: 92.7 dB | PHAT 2 Inch Foam Surround | Non- Pressed, Non-Transfer Paper Cone | KM3 Coated for Virtually No Cone Distortion | 2.5 Inch 4-Layer ASV Voice Coil | Dual 4 Ohm | 2 Ohm or 8 Ohm Operation | Mounting Dimensions: Depth; 5 5/8 Inch Hole; 11 1/8 Inch Diameter; 12 3/4 Inch
a little more money(20 lousy bucks) but you will feel the difference.
oh and if you doubt the quality or havent heard of the name AUDIOBAHN before lets put is this way......sister company to phoenix gold.......
or for only 699.99 each you can get
Model AWT12
250oz Double Stacked Strontium Magnets | Power Handling: 2000 watts R.M.S. | Frequency Response: 20Hz – 500Hz | Efficiency: 87.3dB | Bolt Tight Motor Structure | PHAT 2 Inch Foam Surround | Titanium/Aluminum Cone | 4 Inch 4-Layer AVS Voice Coil | Dual 1 Ohm Voice Coils | 1/2 Ohm or 2 Ohm Operation | Mounting Dimensions: Depth; 6 3/4 Inch Diameter; 12 3/4 Inch
or if youve lost your mind and need the ultimate sub try
Model AWT34
650oz Double Stacked Strontium Magnets | Power Handling: 5000 watts R.M.S. | Frequency Response: 10Hz – 400Hz | Efficiency: 88.9dB | Bolt Tight Motor Structure | PHAT 2 Inch Foam Surround | Titanium/Aluminum Cone | 5 Inch 4-Layer AVS Voice Coil | Dual 2 Ohm Voice Coils | 1 Ohm or 4 Ohm Operation | Mounting Dimensions: Depth; 12 Inch Diameter; 34 Inch
only 5999.99(no thats not a typo its a 34 inch sub for 6000 bucks
check out www.justcaraudio.com
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1983 CHEVROLET CAMARO with a 1986
305 C.I.D.V8 BORED .030 OVER
HIGH VOLUME OIL PUMP
FLAT-TOP PISTONS
MILD CAM
3" CAT BACK EXHAUST W/ FLOWMASTER MUFFFLER
KEYSTONE CLASSIC WHEELS.
B&M RATCHET SHIFTER
STAGE THREE SHIFT KIT
(she'll spin em into third)
CHECK OUT MY SITE http://www.fbody.com/members/bigdaddyshawn/
MUSTANGS SUCK
12 Inch High Excursion Subwoofer
Model AW1200X
Manufacturer: Audiobahn
Retail:
Your cost: $199.99
Model AW1200X
120 oz. Double Stacked Strontium Magnets | Power Handling: 700 watts R.M.S. | Frequency Response: 20Hz – 500Hz | Efficiency: 92.7 dB | PHAT 2 Inch Foam Surround | Non- Pressed, Non-Transfer Paper Cone | KM3 Coated for Virtually No Cone Distortion | 2.5 Inch 4-Layer ASV Voice Coil | Dual 4 Ohm | 2 Ohm or 8 Ohm Operation | Mounting Dimensions: Depth; 5 5/8 Inch Hole; 11 1/8 Inch Diameter; 12 3/4 Inch
a little more money(20 lousy bucks) but you will feel the difference.
oh and if you doubt the quality or havent heard of the name AUDIOBAHN before lets put is this way......sister company to phoenix gold.......
or for only 699.99 each you can get
Model AWT12
250oz Double Stacked Strontium Magnets | Power Handling: 2000 watts R.M.S. | Frequency Response: 20Hz – 500Hz | Efficiency: 87.3dB | Bolt Tight Motor Structure | PHAT 2 Inch Foam Surround | Titanium/Aluminum Cone | 4 Inch 4-Layer AVS Voice Coil | Dual 1 Ohm Voice Coils | 1/2 Ohm or 2 Ohm Operation | Mounting Dimensions: Depth; 6 3/4 Inch Diameter; 12 3/4 Inch
or if youve lost your mind and need the ultimate sub try
Model AWT34
650oz Double Stacked Strontium Magnets | Power Handling: 5000 watts R.M.S. | Frequency Response: 10Hz – 400Hz | Efficiency: 88.9dB | Bolt Tight Motor Structure | PHAT 2 Inch Foam Surround | Titanium/Aluminum Cone | 5 Inch 4-Layer AVS Voice Coil | Dual 2 Ohm Voice Coils | 1 Ohm or 4 Ohm Operation | Mounting Dimensions: Depth; 12 Inch Diameter; 34 Inch
only 5999.99(no thats not a typo its a 34 inch sub for 6000 bucks
check out www.justcaraudio.com
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305 C.I.D.V8 BORED .030 OVER
HIGH VOLUME OIL PUMP
FLAT-TOP PISTONS
MILD CAM
3" CAT BACK EXHAUST W/ FLOWMASTER MUFFFLER
KEYSTONE CLASSIC WHEELS.
B&M RATCHET SHIFTER
STAGE THREE SHIFT KIT
(she'll spin em into third)
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My 2 cents-JL W6s rule.
Thats what i run.
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There can be only one!!
Do not go with Audiobahn!!! God those are sooo Bazzar.
I run 3 10w6s with 2 600.2 Art series ppi amps and I could not be happier.
Also if you can get the 12w6s for 179 jump on it. I paid over 250 for my 10w6s 2 years ago.
Oh and I looked at that site from 83camaro
look what they put the Audiobahn's in with.
Proves how big of CRAP they are.
[This message has been edited by dallasiroc (edited March 09, 2001).]
I run 3 10w6s with 2 600.2 Art series ppi amps and I could not be happier.
Also if you can get the 12w6s for 179 jump on it. I paid over 250 for my 10w6s 2 years ago.
Oh and I looked at that site from 83camaro
look what they put the Audiobahn's in with.
Proves how big of CRAP they are.
[This message has been edited by dallasiroc (edited March 09, 2001).]
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From: PORT RICHEY, FLORIDA
Car: 1983 Camaro Sport Coupe
Engine: 1986 305 C.I.D. Bored .030 over
Transmission: TH350 W/Shift Kit
Axle/Gears: 3:08
hahahahh the sister company to phoenix gold, the company that ran daytona nationals last year. the company that won more competitions than ANYONE last year and still he doubts them cause the jls are more popular and every idiot with a civic has em
hahahahahhahhaahahahah that cracks me up
to each his own brother to each his own
i guess ill have to settle for my subs that hit harder than jl's
too bad i wont have whats popular though...................

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1983 CHEVROLET CAMARO with a 1986
305 C.I.D.V8 BORED .030 OVER
HIGH VOLUME OIL PUMP
FLAT-TOP PISTONS
MILD CAM
3" CAT BACK EXHAUST W/ FLOWMASTER MUFFFLER
KEYSTONE CLASSIC WHEELS.
B&M RATCHET SHIFTER
STAGE THREE SHIFT KIT
(she'll spin em into third)
CHECK OUT MY SITE http://www.fbody.com/members/bigdaddyshawn/
MUSTANGS SUCK
hahahahahhahhaahahahah that cracks me up
to each his own brother to each his own
i guess ill have to settle for my subs that hit harder than jl's
too bad i wont have whats popular though...................

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1983 CHEVROLET CAMARO with a 1986
305 C.I.D.V8 BORED .030 OVER
HIGH VOLUME OIL PUMP
FLAT-TOP PISTONS
MILD CAM
3" CAT BACK EXHAUST W/ FLOWMASTER MUFFFLER
KEYSTONE CLASSIC WHEELS.
B&M RATCHET SHIFTER
STAGE THREE SHIFT KIT
(she'll spin em into third)
CHECK OUT MY SITE http://www.fbody.com/members/bigdaddyshawn/
MUSTANGS SUCK
I would personally go with the JL's. But atleast 6 people in my grade at high school have jl 12's. so they might be a nice sub with nice sound but they are getting to popular for me. but jl's for 180 dollars take them and re-sell them!
jl makes a great sub dont get me wrong..got a great name and a great history..in my opinion anything over a w3 is just a waste a money but its just an opinion...i have had about every set of subs u can imagine over the years including recently a set of 4 audiobahn 12's in my camaro...they are very nice speakers..i have also had jl's and my spl's were slightly higher with jl's but the driving around town clarity was much better with the audiobahn..a much tighter sub..i am currently running 4 shp memphis 12's (most of u have never prolly heard of them) and its the best system i've had...i encourage you to check out their site at www.memphiscaraudio.com or http://www.memphiscaraudio.com/woofers.htm to see my subs...i also run two memphis 1000d amps which just kill those 4 subs..i was told when i started competing i could never get a camaro past 160 db's cause of the design and how close to the hatch it would be...i was happy to post a 164.3 at the nspl competition march 4th...so my vote goes to getting memphis subs...prolly not the ones i got cause they'll run ya 800 a peice..i would go with a set a memphis pb's (power bass)....u can get them for about 125 a peice (same price as jl's) and they have been proven to outperform...i'm sure they're are those of u who dont agree and people will disagree on who makes the best car stereo products till the end of time...but i only give u facts...people can argue till they are blue in the face..someone will come out with a better sub soon then someone else will make a better one...just have fun with what u got
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1992 RS 25th anniversary..305 tpi conversion,slp headers,jet chip,3 inch flow master exhaust,3:73 richmond gears,big block style hood,80 degree tint,black outs,b&m megashifter,high rise spoiler,and much more.
Stereo
ioneer 8000R with organic screen,2 memphis 1000d amps(1100rms each) 4 memphis shp 12's 2 capasitors,audiobahn line driver,memphis crossover,stinger dry cell battery.
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1992 RS 25th anniversary..305 tpi conversion,slp headers,jet chip,3 inch flow master exhaust,3:73 richmond gears,big block style hood,80 degree tint,black outs,b&m megashifter,high rise spoiler,and much more.
Stereo
ioneer 8000R with organic screen,2 memphis 1000d amps(1100rms each) 4 memphis shp 12's 2 capasitors,audiobahn line driver,memphis crossover,stinger dry cell battery. no i had a Jensen amp and it didnt push anything and it would overheat in an hour...even when i was only pushing one sub...
then i bought my pioneer and it pushed 2 in mono and didnt do anything...THATS why i said haha, jensen...not because im a name brand snob...
then i bought my pioneer and it pushed 2 in mono and didnt do anything...THATS why i said haha, jensen...not because im a name brand snob...
Sister company. That is a good one. All that means is cheaper ****.
I know people that run audio-bahn. I just think it is lower quality equiptment. It has nothing to do with name brands. It has to do with quality.With quality comes a reputation.
That is how one becomes popular. If popular is bad, then hundreds of thousands of people must be wrong!
I know people that run audio-bahn. I just think it is lower quality equiptment. It has nothing to do with name brands. It has to do with quality.With quality comes a reputation.
That is how one becomes popular. If popular is bad, then hundreds of thousands of people must be wrong!
to say that popularity dictates quality is just ignorant...i guarantee the best subs on the market you've never heard of..price has a lot to do with popularity...most people want and average system and dont do much research..they buy what the first stereo guy tells them is the best or the best for what they want to spend...the best companies in audio equipment make bottom line crap...look at companies like denon and dei....i an in teh electronics business and we sell some crappy denon equipment...but denon make one of the best home theatre systems in the world...same goes with car audio...as far as audiobahn being crap cause its a subdivision company is just lack of experience talking...aiwa is a "sister" company of sony..now u telling me aiwa makes crap? popularity dont mean anything to me..when i have a system in my car and the only vaiable i throw in are diff subs and one out performs the other thats my proof...not cause a lot of people buy the sub..jl is a great sub for the money..but until the w-7's come out JL doesnt really have a "high performance" sub under their belt...i've run petra hyperthrows against JL and the petras were 2.5's higher in the same car and everything..and i bet you've never heard of petras and they're certainly not popular...i hope this clears up the confusion some have bestowed on the board
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1992 RS 25th anniversary..305 tpi conversion,slp headers,jet chip,3 inch flow master exhaust,3:73 richmond gears,big block style hood,80 degree tint,black outs,b&m megashifter,high rise spoiler,and much more.
Stereo
ioneer 8000R with organic screen,2 memphis 1000d amps(1100rms each) 4 memphis shp 12's 2 capasitors,audiobahn line driver,memphis crossover,stinger dry cell battery.
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1992 RS 25th anniversary..305 tpi conversion,slp headers,jet chip,3 inch flow master exhaust,3:73 richmond gears,big block style hood,80 degree tint,black outs,b&m megashifter,high rise spoiler,and much more.
Stereo
ioneer 8000R with organic screen,2 memphis 1000d amps(1100rms each) 4 memphis shp 12's 2 capasitors,audiobahn line driver,memphis crossover,stinger dry cell battery. and as far as dei..i bet not many people know who they are or how good a sub they make..but it must not be any good cause its not popular..maybe you've heard of some of their "sister" companies like "viper" and "sidewinder." I guess thats just crap since it comes from a sister company..
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1992 RS 25th anniversary..305 tpi conversion,slp headers,jet chip,3 inch flow master exhaust,3:73 richmond gears,big block style hood,80 degree tint,black outs,b&m megashifter,high rise spoiler,and much more.
Stereo
ioneer 8000R with organic screen,2 memphis 1000d amps(1100rms each) 4 memphis shp 12's 2 capasitors,audiobahn line driver,memphis crossover,stinger dry cell battery.
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1992 RS 25th anniversary..305 tpi conversion,slp headers,jet chip,3 inch flow master exhaust,3:73 richmond gears,big block style hood,80 degree tint,black outs,b&m megashifter,high rise spoiler,and much more.
Stereo
ioneer 8000R with organic screen,2 memphis 1000d amps(1100rms each) 4 memphis shp 12's 2 capasitors,audiobahn line driver,memphis crossover,stinger dry cell battery. back to the subject, i think the best way to go with JL's is either one or three. with the six ohm dual voice coil, three w6's cant be beat.
if you are set on two subs, i recommend some of the older fosgate DVC subs. I was very dissapointed when RF started selling to places like crutchfield and Best Buy, i feel that their quality has gone downhill since then. In 98-99 RF was tops, but they have fallen since.
and for those who dont think popularity doesnt mean quality...are you ignorant or lacking intelligence? granted the statement of 'popularity means quality" sounds false, but think about it WITH AN OPEN MIND. people buy JL, Poineer, PPI, soundstream, eclipse...because they are quality products built by professionals who know what it takes to achieve high spls and good quality sound. they are popular for a reason, they are reasonably priced for the sound level they produce.
i can go spend $1300 on a set of seperates from FOCAL, or go buy a set of $250 seperates from fosgate and be completely satisfied. Price means absolutely **** ! ive seen an amp for $2500 and subs approaching the $1000 mark.
IMO, buy what you can afford and upgrade later when you have the $.
go with the JL's if you can afford 3, otherwise go with the fosgates.
daniel
if you are set on two subs, i recommend some of the older fosgate DVC subs. I was very dissapointed when RF started selling to places like crutchfield and Best Buy, i feel that their quality has gone downhill since then. In 98-99 RF was tops, but they have fallen since.
and for those who dont think popularity doesnt mean quality...are you ignorant or lacking intelligence? granted the statement of 'popularity means quality" sounds false, but think about it WITH AN OPEN MIND. people buy JL, Poineer, PPI, soundstream, eclipse...because they are quality products built by professionals who know what it takes to achieve high spls and good quality sound. they are popular for a reason, they are reasonably priced for the sound level they produce.
i can go spend $1300 on a set of seperates from FOCAL, or go buy a set of $250 seperates from fosgate and be completely satisfied. Price means absolutely **** ! ive seen an amp for $2500 and subs approaching the $1000 mark.
IMO, buy what you can afford and upgrade later when you have the $.
go with the JL's if you can afford 3, otherwise go with the fosgates.
daniel
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I have a set of rockford power dvc tens right now. had some JL w6's befor that. sound wise they are both great. quality wise jl lacks. stamped basket. foam surround. I personally like a nicer sub because they handle power alot better. with nicer subs you will notice the sub hits a point where it does not preform any better but if you up the volume it will not make cracking or popping sounds like cheaper subs. I almost bough a set of the infinity perfect subs. I had never heard them though. just depends if your subs get alot of sun with foam surround they won't last as long.
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88 iroc slp headers,borla catback,procharger to come soon.
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"I don't trust anything that bleads for five day's and doesn't die"
88 iroc slp headers,borla catback,procharger to come soon.
ok i'm ignorant then...dont know what i'm talking about...u ever hit a 164.3 in a third gen? i doubt it...not as much money as u think and 3 back glasses later I have..so dont type about what you've never experienced....dont write what u read in a magazine or someone told u...i get so tired a people who know it all...
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1992 RS 25th anniversary..305 tpi conversion,slp headers,jet chip,3 inch flow master exhaust,3:73 richmond gears,big block style hood,80 degree tint,black outs,b&m megashifter,high rise spoiler,and much more.
Stereo
ioneer 8000R with organic screen,2 memphis 1000d amps(1100rms each) 4 memphis shp 12's 2 capasitors,audiobahn line driver,memphis crossover,stinger dry cell battery.
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1992 RS 25th anniversary..305 tpi conversion,slp headers,jet chip,3 inch flow master exhaust,3:73 richmond gears,big block style hood,80 degree tint,black outs,b&m megashifter,high rise spoiler,and much more.
Stereo
ioneer 8000R with organic screen,2 memphis 1000d amps(1100rms each) 4 memphis shp 12's 2 capasitors,audiobahn line driver,memphis crossover,stinger dry cell battery. first off, if you hear of a brand. If everyone has it or recommends it, then the great "popularity" of that product has came from people using it and liking the results.
As far as Denon, although they make good home (would not say the best) they tried to enter the car audio market and use the "Popular" name of Denon to sell the products. They did not try to make a quality product because of their "Popular" name. As far as sister companys, Aiwa is a cheaper line of Sony. Who does not know this. When I said 5hitty I should have said cheaper. Not saying there is anything wrong with Aiwa, it is all in all pretty decent stuff (I have surround system in my bedroom). Petras, anyone that was old enough in the '80s to have car audio would remember Petras.
And thank you daniel dekay, completely understood all I was trying to say.
As far as Denon, although they make good home (would not say the best) they tried to enter the car audio market and use the "Popular" name of Denon to sell the products. They did not try to make a quality product because of their "Popular" name. As far as sister companys, Aiwa is a cheaper line of Sony. Who does not know this. When I said 5hitty I should have said cheaper. Not saying there is anything wrong with Aiwa, it is all in all pretty decent stuff (I have surround system in my bedroom). Petras, anyone that was old enough in the '80s to have car audio would remember Petras.
And thank you daniel dekay, completely understood all I was trying to say.
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1992 RS 25th anniversary..305 tpi conversion,slp headers,jet chip,3 inch flow master exhaust,3:73 richmond gears,big block style hood,80 degree tint,black outs,b&m megashifter,high rise spoiler,and much more.
Stereo
ioneer 8000R with organic screen,2 memphis 1000d amps(1100rms each) 4 memphis shp 12's 2 capasitors,audiobahn line driver,memphis crossover,stinger dry cell battery.
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1992 RS 25th anniversary..305 tpi conversion,slp headers,jet chip,3 inch flow master exhaust,3:73 richmond gears,big block style hood,80 degree tint,black outs,b&m megashifter,high rise spoiler,and much more.
Stereo
ioneer 8000R with organic screen,2 memphis 1000d amps(1100rms each) 4 memphis shp 12's 2 capasitors,audiobahn line driver,memphis crossover,stinger dry cell battery. i dont have to engage in a battle of wits with 164.3 boy in a thirdgen. soory 
i have finals this week so i need to study those instead of thinking of insults and why you went through three glass shields to acheive your impressive numbers. i guess some people enjoy blowing their eardrums and tailgates to shi#. i dont need to have a 747 airplane (134 db) in my camaro. all i need is a good sounding system that i paid a good price for. but thats probably the difference between you and me, u perfer to go deaf in three years, while i can wait till my mid 80's.
daniel

i have finals this week so i need to study those instead of thinking of insults and why you went through three glass shields to acheive your impressive numbers. i guess some people enjoy blowing their eardrums and tailgates to shi#. i dont need to have a 747 airplane (134 db) in my camaro. all i need is a good sounding system that i paid a good price for. but thats probably the difference between you and me, u perfer to go deaf in three years, while i can wait till my mid 80's.
daniel
for one i wont go deaf cause behind my license plate is a wireing harness to wire my radio externally and as far as the back glasses sponsors pay to fix that stuff...i'm sure u would turn down other peoples money fixing up your car
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1992 RS 25th anniversary..305 tpi conversion,slp headers,jet chip,3 inch flow master exhaust,3:73 richmond gears,big block style hood,80 degree tint,black outs,b&m megashifter,high rise spoiler,and much more.
Stereo
ioneer 8000R with organic screen,2 memphis 1000d amps(1100rms each) 4 memphis shp 12's 2 capasitors,audiobahn line driver,memphis crossover,stinger dry cell battery.
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1992 RS 25th anniversary..305 tpi conversion,slp headers,jet chip,3 inch flow master exhaust,3:73 richmond gears,big block style hood,80 degree tint,black outs,b&m megashifter,high rise spoiler,and much more.
Stereo
ioneer 8000R with organic screen,2 memphis 1000d amps(1100rms each) 4 memphis shp 12's 2 capasitors,audiobahn line driver,memphis crossover,stinger dry cell battery. I have had quite a few different products over the years and have been very impressed with the Audiobahns. I set up a system with with smallest of Audiobahns amps, the 75watts x 2 (chrome with the plexiglass and little neon light behind it)powering 4 of audiobahn's cheapest 10 inch subs at 4 ohms mono at the amp in a Hyundai Tiburon and he hit very hard. I mean, for the money we spent on this system, we would outpound some pretty high dollar setups. I don't have the numbers because this kid doesn't compete, but I'll tell you that I was very impressed and he hits just as hard as my Camaro with Alpine type R subs powered by my PPI 4100. Although to stay with the OP, I would have to go with the JL Audio's over the rockfords and definitely over the Pioneers. Other than an occasional CD deck, I have yet to come across a Pioneer product that can really compete.
Chris
Chris
CASE AND POINT...thanks cbpldc
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1992 RS 25th anniversary..305 tpi conversion,slp headers,jet chip,3 inch flow master exhaust,3:73 richmond gears,big block style hood,80 degree tint,black outs,b&m megashifter,high rise spoiler,and much more.
Stereo
ioneer 8000R with organic screen,2 memphis 1000d amps(1100rms each) 4 memphis shp 12's 2 capasitors,audiobahn line driver,memphis crossover,stinger dry cell battery.
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1992 RS 25th anniversary..305 tpi conversion,slp headers,jet chip,3 inch flow master exhaust,3:73 richmond gears,big block style hood,80 degree tint,black outs,b&m megashifter,high rise spoiler,and much more.
Stereo
ioneer 8000R with organic screen,2 memphis 1000d amps(1100rms each) 4 memphis shp 12's 2 capasitors,audiobahn line driver,memphis crossover,stinger dry cell battery. Ok, wait, so what do you guys think of the pioneer head units, because I was impressed with the amount of control you have with the 9200,
Tell me what you guys think,

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I've never had a pioneer product I've been happy with, but I haven't bought anything from them in a couple of years. The 9200 is a sweet looking radio, but with the previous problems I've had, I'm scared to try a new one.
Chris
Chris
I got the pioneer 8000R and i love it.....just a few additives in 9000 series...great control and options with pioneers head units...i got an alpine 900au on the way with a fold out tv screen...gotta find a place to mount it ...gonna use the aux inputs for my surround sound...i'll get some pics up when i get it installed
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1992 RS 25th anniversary..305 tpi conversion,slp headers,jet chip,3 inch flow master exhaust,3:73 richmond gears,big block style hood,80 degree tint,black outs,b&m megashifter,high rise spoiler,and much more.
Stereo
ioneer 8000R with organic screen,2 memphis 1000d amps(1100rms each) 4 memphis shp 12's 2 capasitors,audiobahn line driver,memphis crossover,stinger dry cell battery.
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1992 RS 25th anniversary..305 tpi conversion,slp headers,jet chip,3 inch flow master exhaust,3:73 richmond gears,big block style hood,80 degree tint,black outs,b&m megashifter,high rise spoiler,and much more.
Stereo
ioneer 8000R with organic screen,2 memphis 1000d amps(1100rms each) 4 memphis shp 12's 2 capasitors,audiobahn line driver,memphis crossover,stinger dry cell battery. Looking For a True OG SubWoofer (G.O.A.T)
Do not go with Audiobahn!!! God those are sooo Bazzar.
I run 3 10w6s with 2 600.2 Art series ppi amps and I could not be happier.
Also if you can get the 12w6s for 179 jump on it. I paid over 250 for my 10w6s 2 years ago.
Oh and I looked at that site from 83camaro
look what they put the Audiobahn's in with.
Proves how big of CRAP they are.

Now Only a True Old Skool Car Audio Enthusiast will know and Have Heard of These but I am Gonna Divulge and Share with you All the ABSOLUTE BAR NONE BEST OLD SCHOOL SUBWOOFER OF ALL TIME AND YES I AM EVEN PICKING WHAT I AM ABOUT TO TELL YOU OVER THE OLD "CERWIN VEGA" (the ones that had the Ripples and where Flat with a Metal Pin/Rod extending Through them......Drum Roll Please.......
"PETRA HYPERTHROW" 15" Inch....The Middle of the Sub looked like "Animal Claw Marks....Now If you want to Doubt Me then By All Means Do Your Research Please.....JL & Rockford Fosgate were Basically the Equivalent of what You Could have Went Into Walmart Car Audio Section (when they had the Wall of Decks, Amps, Speakers & Subs you could listen to) and Purchased and a Sunday Afternoon.....
PETRA HYPERTHROWS were Absolutely NO JOKE A GUY IN HIGH SCHOOL HAD THEM IN A 89 HONDA PRELUDE (the one with the pop up headlights lol) that Was In a Box that was Bolted to the Actual SubFrame of the Car and was Built "IN THE CAR"....Meaning the Box wasn't Built Outside of the Car and placed in there....They Required So Much AirSpace that The Back Seat Part was Taken Out and the Subs were Aimed into the Car and the Box extended ALL THE WAY TO THE EDGE OF THE TRUNK IN WHICH THE AMPS WERE Flush Mounted into the Box Facing the Rest of the car so that When you Popped the Trunk theu Were Accessible Right There......Now People may Claim in Competition's to Hit "X" db or "Y" db etc.....But I can Give you Names of People that You can Look up and Verify this Information with Not Because they were Necessarily Friends but Because they "Owned" Stereo Shops and They were Beaten Numerous Times at Various Competition's when 1-Guy had an Older GMC Astro Van with a Wall on Both Sides on the Back of the Van going Up like a Zig Zag "S" Kinda Shape with Around 20 MTX 10" and 8 MTX 12" Subs and The Other Guy had an 89 Accord that Had a Wall As well where the back Seat Bottom Part Included was Gutted and Built In it was I can't Even Remember the Amount but all Fosgate Subs and Yet these 2 15" "PETRA HYPERTHROWS" In and 89 Prelude would Consistently hit around 152-158db and Shatter the Back Window of the Prelude More times then I can Remember and Cracked the Front Window Numerous Times as well....AND NO IT WASN'T ME WHO HAD THESE SUBS I ACTUALLY HAD 3 HOLLYWOOD 12" Subs In a Saturn that had Hydraulics and Consistently Would Win Lowest of the Show because We had Grinded down the Frame so it Would LAY LOW LOW LOW....Anywho his 2 15's made My Set Up Sound Elementary! You Guys are Welcome for the Knowledge there And REMEMBER KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!!!!!
[This message has been edited by dallasiroc (edited March 09, 2001).]
I run 3 10w6s with 2 600.2 Art series ppi amps and I could not be happier.
Also if you can get the 12w6s for 179 jump on it. I paid over 250 for my 10w6s 2 years ago.
Oh and I looked at that site from 83camaro
look what they put the Audiobahn's in with.
Proves how big of CRAP they are.

Now Only a True Old Skool Car Audio Enthusiast will know and Have Heard of These but I am Gonna Divulge and Share with you All the ABSOLUTE BAR NONE BEST OLD SCHOOL SUBWOOFER OF ALL TIME AND YES I AM EVEN PICKING WHAT I AM ABOUT TO TELL YOU OVER THE OLD "CERWIN VEGA" (the ones that had the Ripples and where Flat with a Metal Pin/Rod extending Through them......Drum Roll Please.......
"PETRA HYPERTHROW" 15" Inch....The Middle of the Sub looked like "Animal Claw Marks....Now If you want to Doubt Me then By All Means Do Your Research Please.....JL & Rockford Fosgate were Basically the Equivalent of what You Could have Went Into Walmart Car Audio Section (when they had the Wall of Decks, Amps, Speakers & Subs you could listen to) and Purchased and a Sunday Afternoon.....
PETRA HYPERTHROWS were Absolutely NO JOKE A GUY IN HIGH SCHOOL HAD THEM IN A 89 HONDA PRELUDE (the one with the pop up headlights lol) that Was In a Box that was Bolted to the Actual SubFrame of the Car and was Built "IN THE CAR"....Meaning the Box wasn't Built Outside of the Car and placed in there....They Required So Much AirSpace that The Back Seat Part was Taken Out and the Subs were Aimed into the Car and the Box extended ALL THE WAY TO THE EDGE OF THE TRUNK IN WHICH THE AMPS WERE Flush Mounted into the Box Facing the Rest of the car so that When you Popped the Trunk theu Were Accessible Right There......Now People may Claim in Competition's to Hit "X" db or "Y" db etc.....But I can Give you Names of People that You can Look up and Verify this Information with Not Because they were Necessarily Friends but Because they "Owned" Stereo Shops and They were Beaten Numerous Times at Various Competition's when 1-Guy had an Older GMC Astro Van with a Wall on Both Sides on the Back of the Van going Up like a Zig Zag "S" Kinda Shape with Around 20 MTX 10" and 8 MTX 12" Subs and The Other Guy had an 89 Accord that Had a Wall As well where the back Seat Bottom Part Included was Gutted and Built In it was I can't Even Remember the Amount but all Fosgate Subs and Yet these 2 15" "PETRA HYPERTHROWS" In and 89 Prelude would Consistently hit around 152-158db and Shatter the Back Window of the Prelude More times then I can Remember and Cracked the Front Window Numerous Times as well....AND NO IT WASN'T ME WHO HAD THESE SUBS I ACTUALLY HAD 3 HOLLYWOOD 12" Subs In a Saturn that had Hydraulics and Consistently Would Win Lowest of the Show because We had Grinded down the Frame so it Would LAY LOW LOW LOW....Anywho his 2 15's made My Set Up Sound Elementary! You Guys are Welcome for the Knowledge there And REMEMBER KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!!!!!
[This message has been edited by dallasiroc (edited March 09, 2001).]
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Re: Narrowed it down to three?
so that is how the 3rd gen stereo situation was like in the spring of 2001...
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