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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 03:57 PM
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Sub Boxes for 82-92 Camaro

I built a sub box for my '91 Camaro and have received interest from others to have me build them a box. I need to know if the hatches are the same for all 3rd gen camaros. Would the box i made for my 91 fit into an 84 camaro? Also, is there a difference between a 91 camaro's hatch and a 91 Firebird hatch? I would really appreciate any info or if you could tell me where you think i could get this info. If you're interested in one of my boxes email me raymer.benj@students.uwlax.edu. I will have many pictures shortly. Thanks.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 04:36 PM
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As far as I know they are all the same.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 04:56 PM
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From 82 to 92 they were exact same!
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 05:06 PM
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82 to 92 camaro's indeed have the same trunk set up. How ever... some came with a locking cover that went over the deep part ove the trunk.
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 09:51 AM
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don't forget that the power hatch motor will take a little more space (depending on how hight the box sits)
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Old Mar 11, 2002 | 10:17 AM
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They are not the same. The ones with the power hatch motor have bigger humps and the ones without the motor had smaller bumps so keep that in mind.
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Old Mar 11, 2002 | 08:10 PM
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you should have no trouble building one box that fits both cars. All you'll need to do differently is the conour of the cover if you choose to supply one.
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 09:14 PM
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Whats the deal with people charging $200+ for a box? Thats crazy.

If it came with subs, that would be different.
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 11:23 PM
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the reason why the boxes are so expensive is because they are not average boxes. these things have like 10+ sides to them. the work that goes into one of these things is a lot more than the average box. i'm workin on a small one for my 12 and i've gone through a lot just trying to get it the right shape. as much as i love my car and i love car stereo, our "trunks" suck
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 10:20 AM
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Our trunks rule! You just need to be a little better at box building than the average joe to make it work.

Which brings me to my answer for MetKiss316:

When you buy a custom built box, you're paying for:
1. Materials.
2. Labor
3. Overall quality
4. Overall appearance.

So, let's break this down. We'll use my boxes as an example.
1. materials. In my case, materials are not expensive. Usually $50 covers my materials cost for a box.
2. Labor. This is a biggie. These are NOT easy boxes to build. I can pound out a rectangular box, including carpeting, in a couple hours. If I did it start to finish, it would take me 10 to 15 hours to build a thirdgen box. Consider that most shops get $50/hr for labor, and you very quickly start to see where the cost goes. I work on boxes at night after work, so it's not uncommon to take me 2 or more weeks to build a single box (ask the 2 guys that are patiently waiting for boxes right now).
3. Overall quality. Better boxes cost more. Pretty simple concept there.
4. Overall appearance. Same as #3. The better it looks, the more people are willing to pay.
#3 and #4 both tie back into #2. Better quality and better appearance require more skill and take longer.

Now... let's take a regular shop. They have a minimum of a 4 or 5 hour investment in a thirdgen box that's similar to mine. 5 hours x $50/hr is $250 for labor. Don't forget that they mark up materials costs. $100 materials. That's $350 for a box similar to mine, and since they don't pound out the same box day after day, I'm willing to bet theirs won't come out as good.

There are less expensive options for those that choose to take that route. I see thirdgen boxes on Ebay and other places for $150, sometimes less. Some people understand the difference in quality and are willing to pay for the better stuff, others don't.
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 10:21 PM
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i didnt mean they were bad. our car setup is awesome for the travel of bass waves. however, you cant just drop a normal box in and call it a day. but thats what makes this stuff fun
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 12:42 PM
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Man it sucks! I have a DVC 12" RF HX2 and i had to make a plate beacuse i tried to build a box got fed up and just threw a plate on there, and the thing is sloppy now... i cant even imagine how this sub would sound in a box... I put it right in the center of the plate, but it just doesn't hit some bass very accurately.... i wonder if im doing damage to the speaker this way... plus the magnet sits right up against the middle of the inside of the trunkspace... that magnet was too big to fit it center in a box, i would have to offset it.... to the right or left, didn't really like the way that looked, but i dont think this looks much better... oh well... in time I guess...

-Ant
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 03:20 PM
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yeah its pretty simple, you get what you pay for.
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 04:18 PM
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hey, got a sub box in the works myself. its gonna fint a single 12" and will fit in the bottom (smaller) part of the well so it is a little more outta site. made an adaptation of the ultimate box i saw on the board. may have some pics of WIP if i get around to uploading them somewhere
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