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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 07:52 PM
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HELP! a noob with starting my car

hey all this is my first post! but not my first camaro, i just bought a 1987 with a 305, i got it to start and run, but now i go to start it, it fires up but then dies suddenly its probably something fuel related but can you be detailed in anytrhing you say to do thank you, fuel filter how and where to change it etc..
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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Does it have the computer controlled carb?
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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how can i tell, i dont think that it does though
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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Here's how you tell if it's computer controlled (and anyone correct emif I am wrong)

When you turn the key to ON (not start) do you see a 'service engine soon' light?

If you do, it's computer controlled.



And mine does the same thing when it's cold. I start it, I rev it because the choke doesnt work properly when it's really cold, then it dies no matter what. I was thinking it was ignition related...
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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then yes it is computer controlled,
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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Ok. Mine is not.

After it dies, is it easy to start again?

I think you should get a tuneup. New plugs, check the cap and rotor, new fuel filter, etc. Then see what happens...
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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after it dies,it will start up but then stalls out again.its like when i hit the gas its doing nothingand stalls, but i have driven the car today for about a mile.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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Sounds like you just need to get a general tuneup. In the meantime, however, you may want to try adjusting the carb if you're sure you wont screw anything up. Check/adjust the idle speed and the mixture and such.

But some of that might be different if it is computer controlled, I'm not sure.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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hate to keep u on this post but is there like any sort of diagrahm that you know of that i can use to find all the screws and such on my factory carb LG4
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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Umm I'm not sure. And I dont mind trying to help at all. I wish I could be more helpful... my first reccomentation is that you get a haynes or chilton manual. as for the adjusting screws, well, on my LG4 the idle screw is on the front driver side of the carb.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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ill have to pick one up tomorrow, my idle is at like 1,000 rpm or less so yes id say it needs to be raised a bit
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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Raised!?!? If your idle is that high, you're going to do some serious damage to your transmission from it bucking like crazy when you put it into gear.

Unless you're tlaking about your fast idle, when it's cold, it needs to be turned DOWN. I think the sticker on my hood says it should be like 650 RPM.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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I wouldn't adjust anything on that carb! They are very sensitive. Try a tune-up and a new fuel filter first.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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where is my fuel filter and how do i get it off or out of the carb. i will change that regardless and see if that helps if not more money into it
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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I wouldn't adjust anything on that carb! They are very sensitive. Try a tune-up and a new fuel filter first.
Oh, tuneup for sure, but if you're careful, you can tune the idle yourself. I did.

Just remmber to go slow, and to rev the engine and check the tach VERY OFTEN. (and make sure it's warm when you do this )
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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Fuel filter? Good question. I think it might be in a different spot on yours. Trace the fuel lines and you'll find it. :lala:
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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thanks guys for all the help i will write back tomorrow with the results of the new filter and idle, and one more queation timing when i go and try to shut the car off it dont shut off it sputters and want to stay runnig, how do i do the timing
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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trying to stay running is called 'dieseling.'

lol, it means your idle speed is too high.
Serious.

As for the timing, you should consult a manual. there will be a sticker on your hood that tells you what to disconnect. then you need to go buy a timing light. you clip it onto the #1 spark plug wire, and point it at the balancer. make sure the idle is at the right speed, and then losten the dist. hold down bolt and turn it until the timing marks line up. The light will strobe.

But you should probably take it somewhere, this is the sort of thing that can be very costly if you screw it up.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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alright u got me on the high idle problem lol, i will have a friend do the timing for me chevy v8's is all he ever owned, thanks for all your help
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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No problem. Glad to help.
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