Hey guys,

I wish I could buy this car, but just got a vert a few months ago..

Says it's a documented one of two 1987 IROC Convertibles with a 5.7 from the factory..

http://www.volocars.com/vehicles/134...-camaro-iroc-z


They also have a 5-Speed Convertible

http://www.volocars.com/vehicles/112...et-camaro-z-28

The 5 speed price is a little high, but the 350 vert will be an investment piece for sure.. If it is what they say it is.. Which it looks like it may be..

 

See this post and read the follow-up comments. It's the same car. And there is a lot of things that make the car suspicious.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/conv...ml#post6042435

 

I was a little suspicious and that's why I said "it MAY be what they say it is"..

You'd have to look at what the paperwork was for the few 5.7 verts out there.

They were so rare that they may look suspicious anyway, since they were never really intended to exist.

That interior was a red flag. I've never seen that style seat in black leather.

It could be a legit 350 vert and the seats were worn or faded from sun and got redone. The radio was replaced, but most people replaced the stock radios in these cars.

It's too bad that dealer has a reputation for falsely representing numbers matching cars.

The car is worth something, but if it is real and there's a way to prove it it would be a good investment. It's more like a $15k-17k retail if it's not real.

It's definitely not completely original and I'd bet it is not 100% original paint.

The top looks like an 87. I know for a fact you can't get that bow trim anywhere. I'd doubt it was a converted T-Top car. That car had to have been made into a vert in 87 or 88 to have that top.

I'm about 50/50 on its legitimacy without serious inspection and investigation.

Good to see you guys already picked it apart though! Everyone should consult here before buyin something like that!

 

The VIN Shows It Came With A 350.

 

VIN seems good unless they had a fake one stamped..

Says it was a hatchback coupe, but supposedly the 350 verts were hard tops that got sent out to ASC in 87 only I believe..

I'm sure the paperwork could have been shoddy for those cars.. I don't think they really cared back then about making sure people would be able to figure this stuff out 30 years later. They probably assumed they'd keep making 350 verts at first..

If I was going to buy this car I'd definitely pay the $500 for a solid classic car appraiser to make sure it was really a numbers matching. If you got in writing from an appraiser that the car was legit, at least that could be good for resale..

It wouldn't bother me having re-done seats and paint if it was a legit ASC 350 ordered by a dealer in 87.. They should be upfront about that..

Classic car dealers always try to say they "think" the paint is original but most have had some paint work on a fender, door, passenger side, etc.. They act like they can't tell but it's mind boggling people in the auto industry can't see paint work. Most cars over 4 years old don't have all their original factory paint..

Just makes dealers seem more sketchy than they need to be..

It's too bad this dealer has a bad reputation, they look like they have nice cars.

 

After looking closely at this car & reading the link to another thread about it, no one seemed to see the VIN plate rivet looks a little off & VIN plate looks perfect.
The seats are clearly black, but belts are grey, door pulls are grey but rear panels are black.
I own Special Edition 103 (this is 109) my last 6 digits of my VIN are 123267 & this one is 143xxx.
I have to assume someone took a 86 or 87 ASC vert & attached all the parts to an 87 Coupe. OR used a VIN from a 350 car & added it to this car.
The seats, the VIN rivets/plate are suspect. Where is the original RPO code with the VIN on it to really match this car up option wise
The IROC -Z plaque was not on the dash but not her is mine. ASC removed them to attach the Special Edition plaque over the holes. I've seen this on quite a few of these Special Editions around the same #90 -110 cars, so that isn't suspect.
The more I look at that rivet the more I call BS.

 

GM used and uses Rosette rivets very distinctive and noticeable…which that car does not have

 

Like I said previously there's always something kinky with their cars…this one has a few that stand out…and the VIN is one of them. Sadly that car will be purchased by someone overseas who doesn't know better or care.

 

It's as real as real can be fellas...

 

I think most here believe it was real.......just no where near as "original" as the dealer tried to represent it.

 

It's marked as sold now.

 

Here's the scoop...seats and door panels were redone from the original Deluxe Grey Cloth to black vinyl, steering wheel was recovered and UM6 radio was replaced, but this car is very much real with build sheet from Norwood plant, Ed James Chevrolet dealer invoice showing that it was shipped to ASC in Livonia, MI for conversion, original sales receipt and CarFax title history to prove it. Also VIN is one of five verified to have factory B2L 350's and converted by ASC for dealers. Almost all parts to bring it completely back to original have already been sourced and work will be completed by end of year. I'll post pics when it is complete.

 

Are you the new owner?

Why would a low mile custom cloth interior need to be re-created in vinyl?

 

interiors wear more quickly in convertibles and/or previous owner didn't like cloth. I asked the same question so I did my research on the car and title history.

 

Did convertibles get phillips screws on the shifter plate?

 

Every car has a story - you just need to find who knows it.

Good luck with the car - it is worth the time & effort to make it correct.

 

@841LE Ha, uh no. Look the car isn't perfect but it will be when I'm done. Don't care if it pencils out or if I overspent a little, I've been trying to get this car for 30 years so I'm pretty excited to have it and look forward to making it right. If you have a set of the hex screws or what have you please shoot me a note.

 

@841LE,
Scratch that request, found them they are on the way!