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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Engine temp sensor reading different from CTS

91 SD L98

So here is my situation. My fans wont come on. The ECM is programmed to ground the relay at 222 degrees. Now the engine temp guage is going above 222 but the Coolant Temp Sensor is only reading around 190 at that point.

Could I just have an air pocket by the CTS or do you think it is a bad sensor?

Since the CTS isnt reading 222 the fans wont come on.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 03:02 PM
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Re: Engine temp sensor reading different from CTS

The temp gauge and its sensor are sometimes not that accurate. Have you measured the actual temp with something more accurate?
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 03:05 PM
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Re: Engine temp sensor reading different from CTS

well icould put a pyrometer on it, but where would be the best place to take that reading?
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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Re: Engine temp sensor reading different from CTS

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well icould put a pyrometer on it, but where would be the best place to take that reading?
u can try the thermo housing neck. those stock gauges are not very accurate.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 10:04 PM
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Re: Engine temp sensor reading different from CTS

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well icould put a pyrometer on it, but where would be the best place to take that reading?
Upper rad hose or use a multimeter and measure the resistance of the coolant temp sensor (below the t-stat).
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 12:34 PM
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Re: Engine temp sensor reading different from CTS

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91 SD L98

So here is my situation. My fans wont come on. The ECM is programmed to ground the relay at 222 degrees. Now the engine temp guage is going above 222 but the Coolant Temp Sensor is only reading around 190 at that point.

Could I just have an air pocket by the CTS or do you think it is a bad sensor?

Since the CTS isnt reading 222 the fans wont come on.
The gauge sender is also in the head, between two exhaust ports, a considerably hotter part of the motor. You can expect a bit of disparity between the temperature gauge and ECM reading.
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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Re: Engine temp sensor reading different from CTS

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The gauge sender is also in the head, between two exhaust ports, a considerably hotter part of the motor. You can expect a bit of disparity between the temperature gauge and ECM reading.
how are u measuring the temp that the cts is seeing? a scanner,laptop?
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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snap on scanner
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Re: Engine temp sensor reading different from CTS

Originally Posted by Mr Froman
Upper rad hose or use a multimeter and measure the resistance of the coolant temp sensor (below the t-stat).
What parts of the sensor do I hook my multimeter to? Unhooked sensor to ground? Unhooked sensor to sensor wire lead?
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Old Mar 23, 2012 | 09:47 AM
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Re: Engine temp sensor reading different from CTS

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The gauge sender is also in the head, between two exhaust ports, a considerably hotter part of the motor. You can expect a bit of disparity between the temperature gauge and ECM reading.
If the CTS is in a considerably cooler spot of the motor than the Temperature gauge sending unit how about changing positions. Put the CTS in the Temperature gauge sensor location and visa versa?
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Old Mar 23, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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Re: Engine temp sensor reading different from CTS

I don't think you'd want the ECM seeing the engine temp as higher than what it's actually running, just for the sake of the gauge to read lower.
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