Classic Auto Air Ebay - Third Generation F-Body Message Boards


Cooling Discuss all of the aspects of cooling that you can think of! Radiators, transmissions, electric fans, etc.

Classic Auto Air Ebay

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-25-2018, 08:03 AM   #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Crosby, Texas
Posts: 44
Car: 1988 IROC "The Duece"
Engine: 5.7 TPI L98
Transmission: 700R4

Classic Auto Air Ebay

Has anyone purchased one of the Classic Auto Air compressor upgrade STAGE 1 kit like this one on ebay?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/88-92-Fireb...1794%7Ciid%3A1


Was looking into it as a starting point to get my AC working. Its freakin hot in Texas and its really hot with T tops. Any info- good or bad is greatly appreciated
Hawgtied is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2018, 08:02 PM   #2  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 69
Car: 1987 Firebird Formula
Engine: lG4 -Carb.
Transmission: 700R4

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

Hi, I did and am very happy with it. Great people to work with.

Louis




Ct1987 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2018, 02:28 PM   #3  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Crosby, Texas
Posts: 44
Car: 1988 IROC "The Duece"
Engine: 5.7 TPI L98
Transmission: 700R4

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

CT1987 How was the installation? Any issues? I just purchased the Stage 1 kit and a new condenser as well. Looking to do the swap pretty quick.
Hawgtied is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2018, 02:59 PM   #4  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 69
Car: 1987 Firebird Formula
Engine: lG4 -Carb.
Transmission: 700R4

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

You will be happy with it. I believe your engine bay is similar to mine. To change the condenser, disconnect the lines. Take the cover over the radiator off. Push the radiator to twords the back of the car and carefully lift the old condensor out. Reverse for install.

Remove all old lines, flush out the evaporator with alcohol. Make sure you lube the O rings with the proper oil for your system.
Draw down the system with the pump to the losest inches of mercury you can get.
It should be around 28 to 30, Depending on your altitude.

Here are some instructions from an install on a Chevy. Same thing.

Louis

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/how-t...ses-comparison
Ct1987 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2018, 03:07 PM   #5  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Crosby, Texas
Posts: 44
Car: 1988 IROC "The Duece"
Engine: 5.7 TPI L98
Transmission: 700R4

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

Thanks for the info. Should be pretty close to the same. I have a serpentine belt and the compressor is on the passenger side but it still looks pretty straight forward.
Hawgtied is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2018, 05:09 PM   #6  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 69
Car: 1987 Firebird Formula
Engine: lG4 -Carb.
Transmission: 700R4

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

I am not sure if the compressor bracket will work for the passenger side. Before you start, I would call Nathan at their Florida office. He will give you all the correct info. Also, the lines will be much shorter than mine. Measure the lines and get back with the dimensions.

Put the link to the auction so I can see the kit.

Tel: 813-251-2356

Louis

Last edited by Ct1987; 07-02-2018 at 05:20 PM. Reason: add info
Ct1987 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2018, 07:15 AM   #7  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Arcadia, OK
Posts: 42
Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird Formula
Engine: LO3 305
Transmission: 700R4 Auto
Axle/Gears: 3.23 Posi

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

I installed a stage 3 kit on my 1990 Firebird; piece of cake. There are a few errors in the instructions, though. Make sure to remove both of the Schrader valves before installing the R134a high and low-pressure fill connectors (instructions only mention one, not both). Also, the condenser they provided would not mount as they made it. Where the side bracket screws hold down the lines the screws need to be reversed, as the tips of the screws hit the radiator. I removed the sheet metal screws and used small nuts and bolts after discussing with their tech support. Oh, and one of the compressor mount holes won't work; you will need an extra bolt. It appears they expected a clear hole where there is a threaded hole, on the lower mount if I recall correctly. This is on a 1990 model, your 1988 might be different.
rt66er is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2018, 03:06 PM   #8  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Crosby, Texas
Posts: 44
Car: 1988 IROC "The Duece"
Engine: 5.7 TPI L98
Transmission: 700R4

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

Thanks for all the input. I am still waiting for the kit to arrive. I went ahead and removed my old compressor, hoses and dryer from the car. I'll remove the condenser today when I get home from work. Cant wait to get it all together and ride in comfort!
Hawgtied is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2018, 05:55 AM   #9  
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Accord NY
Posts: 65
Car: 90 IROC 27K owned since new
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

Quote:
Originally Posted by rt66er View Post
I installed a stage 3 kit on my 1990 Firebird; piece of cake. There are a few errors in the instructions, though. Make sure to remove both of the Schrader valves before installing the R134a high and low-pressure fill connectors (instructions only mention one, not both). Also, the condenser they provided would not mount as they made it. Where the side bracket screws hold down the lines the screws need to be reversed, as the tips of the screws hit the radiator. I removed the sheet metal screws and used small nuts and bolts after discussing with their tech support. Oh, and one of the compressor mount holes won't work; you will need an extra bolt. It appears they expected a clear hole where there is a threaded hole, on the lower mount if I recall correctly. This is on a 1990 model, your 1988 might be different.
Can you take a pic. of the compressor installed.
i'm thinking of installing one on my 90 IROC.
Did you need to move or modify the heat diverter or smog stuff
BigBlock73 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2018, 07:37 AM   #10  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Arcadia, OK
Posts: 42
Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird Formula
Engine: LO3 305
Transmission: 700R4 Auto
Axle/Gears: 3.23 Posi

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBlock73 View Post
Can you take a pic. of the compressor installed.
i'm thinking of installing one on my 90 IROC.
Did you need to move or modify the heat diverter or smog stuff
Heater valve stayed put. I removed the AIR pump and associated plumbing before replacing the A/C (installed headers). I should qualify my statement that this was "a piece of cake" to install; my car only has ~17,000 miles on it, so nothing was rusted or caked with 100,000+ miles of baked on crud. Photo as requested:
Attached Thumbnails
Classic Auto Air Ebay-wp_20180524_001.jpg  
rt66er is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2018, 08:16 AM   #11  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 69
Car: 1987 Firebird Formula
Engine: lG4 -Carb.
Transmission: 700R4

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

That looks very very professional. I like the fact that they supply a belt tensioner with the passenger side kit. They do not have one for my system. This is my only complaint. I see your dryer is cocked over to the side also. I did not use Classic's dryer, used one from Rock Auto. I guess they use this dryer for many applications. the top port on the evaporator is off center by a half inch.


Louis

Last edited by Ct1987; 07-15-2018 at 08:20 AM. Reason: add info
Ct1987 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2018, 09:41 AM   #12  
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Accord NY
Posts: 65
Car: 90 IROC 27K owned since new
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

My car has 27k on it , I'm not expecting any problems.
I had Headers put on 20 years ago at the same time I had the A/C removed including changing the A/C housing to non A/C.
Why did you change your system and go with the stage 3 ?
BigBlock73 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2018, 05:10 PM   #13  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Arcadia, OK
Posts: 42
Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird Formula
Engine: LO3 305
Transmission: 700R4 Auto
Axle/Gears: 3.23 Posi

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

My compressor seals were blown, and I wanted to switch to R134a. Not experienced enough to try and mix and match components; wanted everything made and tested to work together. I went with the Stage 3 system because it was only $50 more. Had I gone Stage 2, with my luck, the evaporator would have had a leak and I would have had to buy one anyway.
rt66er is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2018, 05:28 AM   #14  
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Accord NY
Posts: 65
Car: 90 IROC 27K owned since new
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

rt66er
Thanks for the pic and the info.
I'll give Classic Auto Air a call and ask about the smog stuff and fitment.

Your install looks great!!
BigBlock73 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2018, 07:55 AM   #15  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Crosby, Texas
Posts: 44
Car: 1988 IROC "The Duece"
Engine: 5.7 TPI L98
Transmission: 700R4

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

Here's a pic of my install. I have the smog pump and all of that still installed. The compressor is close to the smog stuff and the heater control valve? but it fits.
Overall, the installation was not that difficult. I did run into a problem that was mentioned earlier about a mounting bolt. The bolt supplied with the kit for mounting the compressor to the OEM bracket was not threaded all the way to the head of the bolt. Instructions say to thread this bolt into the OEM bracket. It threads in just fine, but will not bottom out because of the shank on the bolt. Easy enough fix, just get a new bolt.
Also, the low pressure port on the accumulator that was supplied with the kit is not correct. The one I got is the same size as the high pressure connection and my gauges will not connect. I'll have to track on down to make that work.
I think the kit is well worth the money. I am anxiously awaiting the cool air!
Attached Thumbnails
Classic Auto Air Ebay-img_0324.jpg   Classic Auto Air Ebay-img_0323.jpg   Classic Auto Air Ebay-img_0327.jpg  
Hawgtied is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2018, 08:02 AM   #16  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Crosby, Texas
Posts: 44
Car: 1988 IROC "The Duece"
Engine: 5.7 TPI L98
Transmission: 700R4

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

That middle picture is not so good. Here's a little better one.
Attached Thumbnails
Classic Auto Air Ebay-img_0322.jpg  
Hawgtied is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2018, 08:02 AM   #17  
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Accord NY
Posts: 65
Car: 90 IROC 27K owned since new
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

Great info
Pics show exactly what I needed.
Did you need to change any of the wiring?
BigBlock73 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2018, 08:18 AM   #18  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Arcadia, OK
Posts: 42
Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird Formula
Engine: LO3 305
Transmission: 700R4 Auto
Axle/Gears: 3.23 Posi

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawgtied View Post
Here's a pic of my install. I have the smog pump and all of that still installed. The compressor is close to the smog stuff and the heater control valve? but it fits.
Overall, the installation was not that difficult. I did run into a problem that was mentioned earlier about a mounting bolt. The bolt supplied with the kit for mounting the compressor to the OEM bracket was not threaded all the way to the head of the bolt. Instructions say to thread this bolt into the OEM bracket. It threads in just fine, but will not bottom out because of the shank on the bolt. Easy enough fix, just get a new bolt.
Also, the low pressure port on the accumulator that was supplied with the kit is not correct. The one I got is the same size as the high pressure connection and my gauges will not connect. I'll have to track on down to make that work.
I think the kit is well worth the money. I am anxiously awaiting the cool air!


My low pressure port was fine. Kit came with conversion ports.
rt66er is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2018, 08:21 AM   #19  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Arcadia, OK
Posts: 42
Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird Formula
Engine: LO3 305
Transmission: 700R4 Auto
Axle/Gears: 3.23 Posi

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBlock73 View Post
Great info
Pics show exactly what I needed.
Did you need to change any of the wiring?
The high pressure switch plug going to the back of the compressor needs to be cut off and wired together, then tucked into the harness jacket. Also, this compressor is grounded via the case/mount, so you don't need the separate ground wire that the OEM compressor uses.
rt66er is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2018, 09:12 AM   #20  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Crosby, Texas
Posts: 44
Car: 1988 IROC "The Duece"
Engine: 5.7 TPI L98
Transmission: 700R4

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

I haven't done the wiring yet. The OE compressor has two plugs, I think one for the clutch and the other for? not sure. But the instructions say to eliminate one plug by just connecting the wires together. the power for the compressor is the green wire and is connected to the red wire on the compressor. I hope to get it going this week.
Hawgtied is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2018, 05:36 AM   #21  
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Accord NY
Posts: 65
Car: 90 IROC 27K owned since new
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

I'll be ordering,just need to decide if I'm going to reuse my condenser.

Going to install over the winter because I need to reinstall the A/C box on the firewall and want to keep using the car this summer.
It's been 18 years of hibernation.
BigBlock73 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2018, 07:46 AM   #22  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Crosby, Texas
Posts: 44
Car: 1988 IROC "The Duece"
Engine: 5.7 TPI L98
Transmission: 700R4

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

Well I got it all charged up and running! It was 98 degrees F in my garage and I was getting vent temps around 58F. Once I got to driving around, the vent temp dropped to 42F. BRRRRRR! LOL
The compressor runs much more quiet than the old R12 one.
I ended up borrowing another high pressure hose from a set of manifold gauges in order to get the system charged. I will search for the elusive fitting I need in the meantime so I will have it should I need it in the future.
And I did replace my condenser with a spectre unit I got off of eBay. If you go this route, be sure to flush the condenser with lacquer thinner or similar and blow clear with compressed air. I did this and found some metal shavings.
Hawgtied is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2018, 05:57 AM   #23  
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Accord NY
Posts: 65
Car: 90 IROC 27K owned since new
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73

Re: Classic Auto Air Ebay

Hawgtied
42* is great.Must be nice driving in the extreme Texas heat you're having now.

Looking at the condenser's and wondering what could be the difference?

https://smile.amazon.com/Spectra-Pre...70_&dpSrc=srch

https://originalair.com/86-91-camaro...-parallel-flow

It's a huge price difference.
The Auto Air one say's in the "specs" that the manufacturer is General Motors.
BigBlock73 is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Classic cool DIY TBI cold air intake thomas1976 TBI 10 05-16-2011 05:49 AM
New Air Dam from Classic Industries doesn't fit right Ozz1967 Body 10 03-27-2011 07:49 AM
Classic Radiators: Ebay? robertfrank Cooling 1 02-12-2008 11:37 AM
CLASSIC RAMAIR 4-BARREL CARB AIR ASSEMBLY FOR SALE... jamieriplilb Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale 2 02-04-2008 08:53 PM
GM Classic Parts (Ebay) coolram62 Aftermarket Vendor Review 2 11-02-2007 02:56 PM


Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards >

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Advertising
Featured Sponsors
Vendor Directory

1982 Camaro '82 || 1983 Camaro '83 || 1984 Camaro '84 || 1985 Camaro '85 || 1986 Camaro '86 || 1987 Camaro '87 || 1988 Camaro '88 || 1989 Camaro '89 || 1990 Camaro '90 || 1991 Camaro '91 || 1992 Camaro '92


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:19 AM.


© 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands
We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: