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Old Jun 22, 2019 | 02:54 PM
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Testing injectors

Hey guys. Been a few years since being on here. I have a 86 Cameron with a 383 using Holley stealth ram set up. Using 30 lb accel injectors. Tried to start the car up after sitting for 2years an wont start. I have 45lb at the fuel rail. The car starts if I spray starting fluid down the tb but won’t start on its own. Thinking it must be an injector issue. Looking to see where I should start
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Old Jun 22, 2019 | 03:06 PM
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Re: Testing injectors

Are you trying to burn the varnished fuel ?
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Old Jun 22, 2019 | 06:41 PM
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Re: Testing injectors

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Are you trying to burn the varnished fuel ?
Yea. There’s about 1/4 left. Was thinking that the gas was bad too but I also have a 280zx that has been sitting even longer an that started right up. Going to look at the fuel tomorrow to see
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Old Jun 23, 2019 | 08:07 AM
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Re: Testing injectors

before you pull the injectors. you can check power at them.

it. doesn't take long to have sticking injectors. I just took some 42s I had one a shelf for a few years and tested them real quick and 4 of 8 wouldn't open. power them up and soak them in some good carb cleaner for a bit to get them working.
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Old Jun 24, 2019 | 03:43 PM
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Re: Testing injectors

Get a noid light at autozone. Hook it up and crank the car. See if the injectors are even pulsing during cranking.
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Old Jun 24, 2019 | 04:16 PM
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Re: Testing injectors

Funny you say that. I actually have a light set. Just need to take it out for my toolbox. I will be trying that once I get some free time this week.
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Old Jun 24, 2019 | 04:56 PM
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Re: Testing injectors

I would lean toward the gas being bad. As long as the Ignition control module is sending it's pulse the ecm should be firing the injectors. Drain out the old gas and fill'r up with some new slew.

I thought that this newer ethanol gas didn't cause the varnish that the older gas did? I thought it just evaporated and left a powder.
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Re: Testing injectors

Originally Posted by smokefan
Hey guys. Been a few years since being on here. I have a 86 Cameron with a 383 using Holley stealth ram set up. Using 30 lb accel injectors. Tried to start the car up after sitting for 2years an wont start. I have 45lb at the fuel rail. The car starts if I spray starting fluid down the tb but won’t start on its own. Thinking it must be an injector issue. Looking to see where I should start
Do you have fuel pressure at the rail because the ECM is briefly energizing the fuel pump on key on? Or do you have fuel pressure because you're cranking the engine and the oil pressure circuit is activating the fuel pump on the secondary circuit? Does the Service Engine Soon light come on with key on, engine off?

Hard to believe all injectors aren't firing some sort of fuel to get some sort of kick in the engine. Fuel won't be the best but I've never had a car not start even with old gas like that.
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Old Jun 25, 2019 | 10:17 AM
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Re: Testing injectors

JT definitely has a good point. However was ethanol used? We clean and test performance injectors every day that run ethanol. That fuel is nasty. It actually attracts moisture and can gum up inside the injector within a week or 2. Sitting for 2 years? Possible that they are clogged. Sometimes it takes us a few days to open those suckers up.
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