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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 07:20 AM
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Updating your OWN TC tdf files!!!

The TDFEditor software on www.tunercat.com works GREAT if you need to update your own tdf file.
Before;
6 Switchs, 40 Constants, and 31 Tables
Now;
32 Switchs, 95 Constants, and 32 Tables
There are still more tables for me to add but I haven't gotten far along enough in tuning to have any use for changing them.
Editing the TDF file is simple if you've got the hack file or are givin addresses that need to be changed.
Any questions?
BTW, you don't need to use the editor, if you can display hex files in some sort of development studio software than you can just edit the locations in a bin file directly. Another tip is to use the built in microsoft calculator for doing all your Decimal-->Hex-->Binary conversions.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 03:29 PM
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im sort of taking offense at this. i posted the updates becuase they are usefull to people using flash chips. tunecat has updated the $32 $32b $6e to use with a $4000 offest. so bascially double the bin and edit. it will edit everything the ecm reads. gezz
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by funstick
im sort of taking offense at this. i posted the updates becuase they are usefull to people using flash chips. tunecat has updated the $32 $32b $6e to use with a $4000 offest. so bascially double the bin and edit. it will edit everything the ecm reads. gezz
You lost me. I have no idea why you're taking offense to this, could you clue me in.
The purpose of this thread is to help people help themselves when it comes to doing stuff out of the norm. An example is the whole decel and DFCO TCC unlocking hex locations. If you edit your TDF file you can have it so that these are always changed. You can also make the TDF file remove the whole checksum for when you use the 8 in 1 flash prom on a C3 ecm.
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 04:25 AM
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well turn your caps off. it looks like a slander.maybe a more appropriate topic name how to update your own tdf's??
and look a few posts down.
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 05:15 AM
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Originally posted by funstick
well turn your caps off. it looks like a slander.maybe a more appropriate topic name how to update your own tdf's??
and look a few posts down.
Turn my caps off? The only word I have in caps is "GREAT"! I still don't understand what you're talking about so please just PM if you if you think this is slander towards you . Could somebody else please help me out, I don't understand what I did to upset him.
Now, back on topic. Updating your own TDF files lets you change addresses and the such. I have a TDF file I made specifically for Craig M.s 8 in 1 flash prom adaptor. I can edit all 8 at once instead of having to open, change, save, combine into one bin, burn. Now all I do is open, change, save, burn.
The TDF file has just what I change the most in it like the most popular constants, timing, and VE tables. I wouldn't put anything else in because having 8 of the same constants, 8 of the same switchs, and 8 of the same tables I would have a TDF with 256 switchs, 256 tables, and 784 constants!!! That's a bit much but you can see what can be done with the file editor. Makes life easy. I also have all of my ALDL datastream outputs in my constants so I can output nothing but o2 volts or timing vs RPM instead of stuff like batter volts, INT, speed, and the other stuff that doesn't matter much. Life is good when you hack .
Again, funstick, this post is in NO (second caps word) WAY (3rd) trying to belittle you. It's just something to talk about since most of us are using TunerCat.
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 07:19 AM
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J,

You're right, doing your own TDF's is the greatest! I think this is not at all related to Funstick's deal, whereby he was pushing to get the TDFs updated to allow hex offsets for 16k-on-32kchip programs.

I have a question. If the TDF you create is based on an existing TDF as a starting point, I guess it's not available to share? However I guess you could turn it back to TC and he'd reissue an update, so that works. What about if you were to create a TDF from 'scratch' using the TDFEditor? Would that be 'public domain' if you wanted it to be?

-Craig
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 07:30 AM
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Hmmm.... that's good question.
I actually hate having to pay for the files when the cost of the program and editor is already $$.
I bet this changes things a lot if it makes sence that a scratch built TDF file was public domain. Especially since most of us already have the hack files. Then again it says in it's title [tdf]Editor that it's only for editing the files. It's a loop hole. I wonder if he would mind this as public domain since it's near impossible to create a "patch" for the TDF file. It's either all or nothing.
I've got the file and would have no problem showing somebody how to make their own so what's the difference with just making it public domain. I don't think is right for him to say we can't because that's like saying we can't listen to the radio since we didn't by the CD. It's a fact that the hacks have been made free to all, TC used them to create his TDF files and now has a sort of Bill Gates trap going on. Is it right to use his TDFEditor to convert a 7747.tdf to a 8746.tdf or not?
I was lucky. I got a guy to pay for my software license so that I would burn him eproms for free. If you bought the editing software (but it works full even in the trial version) that you should be allowed to have ALL the TDF files that have free hacks avail. It only makes sence. Now for stuff that he does on his own or buys info from other companies than that's his right to sell. I think the whole reason the 7747 tdf file comes with the software is not only for the trial of editing a real bin but also because the hack file was free source. The 8746 is also that way and it's obvious that I've done a lot more with it than he has so who is to say I can't share this file?!!?!?!?! Da mn ....I need to get a law student over here to help figure this out.

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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 08:24 AM
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if you made your own tdf fiel from scratch then it would be yours and you would be fre to distrobute it. but as a good will gesture and sometimes things fall in your lap. sharing a TDF which is aot of work with a company like TC could prove to be advanategous. mine is simply a modified version. i only changed the offset not the content. so i would have a moral obligation not to share it. its all about morals to. also as stated there are now 4 TDF's for use with flash chips. if anybody else can think of a few that could use to be 32kized let me know.

$58,$32,$32b,$6e.

and jvprevost. im not upset i just thought you were throwing something my way. much apologies.
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