www.accordcentral.com/58ecu


i found a really good $58 ecu file that was sourced from bill calagano programmer a while back. so ive been mailing it out. i also have it hosted here. hopefully this will stop the flood of where to find a good $58 ecu file topics that pop up here.

Sean out

 

RBob.

 

And this would be from his Promgrammer that's been available to the Syty community, well actually anyone that's just visited there, for what, 7 years now?.

Looks like that specific info. has been floating around for years now.

Not to mention the other documents relevant to it. Such as the partical hac dated, 11/94. I don't know when it first appeared on the net, but it's been available for years, also.

 

Mr bachus.

How are you today. I sent a copy of this mail over to the internet fraud division of the FBI. i also sent a copy of the letter to the legal deparment at General motors. Dont be surprised if you get a few phone calls.

Caliming rights to intelectual property that doesnt belong to you is a crime.

Lets have a peon discussion. Where did you figure this was your information ? who did you steal it from ? Whos next tunercat ?? i mean come on dude.

im very curious about all of this.

 

Actually if you claiming owner ship of this particular binary editing layout i think i should notify bill calagano that your stealling his copyrighted work. Considering if this statment of yours is accurate then you stole his editing format which was around sevral years before your endevor.

yet again more questions unanswered.

i know what it is your a fruit cake. plain and simple.

 

Personally, taking credit for someone elses work is plagurism.. Mechanic.. while you may have written a ecu file for $58 mask, you are not the only one that has, and will write ecu files for it, or any other mask.. its a file type.

So long as a particular file is not verbatum copy of your file, it is not an infringment.

Bill Calcagno's software and info has been available for years prior to your claim.

Chest beat all you like, the info has been and will remain public...

 

Man this guy is just unbelievable, or at the very least out of line.

I went ahead and did a brief inspection and compared the following three items:

1) Bill Calcagno's $58 definition information, directly exported from PromGrammer and has been around for years (see www.moates.net/58bill.xls ).
2) The aforementioned ECU file.
3) A few peeks into the GMPCM definition points.

Something rather disturbing is clear: They are all EXACTLY the same! So, which one was first? If I had to judge, and we all do in some way, then I'd say it was Bill Calcagno.

I've exchanged emails with Bill, and have received his assurances that his work stemmed from very early information. Certainly it will predate anything presented by the opposing side. Additionally, he has given his full written permission to utilize the Promgrammer information for the creation of a public-domain ECU file.

The time has come to end this throwing around of 'lawsuit' and inappropriate threats of legal action. It's possible that Bill is the one with a case to be made if anything.

Case closed. Can we get back to the task at hand rather than this frivolity? I hate to think how much effort has been wasted already by this aggravation. It surely is clear who is in the right, and more importantly, who is flat-out wrong.

Regards...

 

Thanx for the support guys. I talked with my hosting provider. they flat out refuse to do anything without some sort of judegment on his behalf so good luck on that one mr backus.

As for craigs statment. yes its true the programmer is a template for this particular ECU file. weather backus copyed that work or not is of no relevacne. The fact is this particular file is a dea accurate copy of bill calaganos software. and with bill calaganos permission it will be kept on my site. he has agreed to it and there is no issue at hand.

According to previous mails pasted above mr backus has stated that the ECU is a copy of his PCM file. I instead offer that his PCM file is a copy of Programmer and that the ECU file existed before hand . That is a clear copyright violation.

Since this has been aired out. This file will stay avaible on my site. Unless im ordered by a court to remove it. Doubtful it will happen. But as a JIC scenario every body grab a copy and mail it to a friend.

have a good day

 

1) Copyrighted material must be filed, and registered with the US copyright office.

2) I'm not sure if "Consolidated Networks" is a registered business in the state of Utah, or not. I'll check that in the AM.

3) There is no "user agreement" in the download section.
Clicking "download" simply allows the user to download the file.
Uner civil law there is something called an "implied license", which means if no restrictions are posted none are implied.

4) Upon sending money to Mechanic, he releases access to GM binary format code. I'm not sure what GM's position is on this, but IMO he is redistributing intellectual property for a fee.

Mechanic's direct threats are getting close to the point of criminal activity in itself. A professional company (after ensuring that they had a legitimate claim) would have their legal department contact the offender directly.

As a LEO, I recommend anyone who feels they have been threatened, harassed, or defrauded; to contact their local Police Department, or FBI office.

Mechanic: if you feel the need to threaten, harass, or otherwise contact me in any negative nature - don't!

 

It's with certainty that your efforts in this regard will be paralleled at several levels and to varying depths.

 

i feel harassed and threatend. and i did contact the FBI. we will see if i hand deliver my letter to GM at there headquarter 20 minutes from my house at the resen center in downtown detriot acros from cobo hall tommorow about mr Backus's activitys.

 

In doing a reverse lookup on the phone number listed for the CEO of Consolidated, it is listed for two different private homes in Salt Lake City.

Scot

 

This is funny. That guy is an a$$**le...at least that's my opinion. (I don't want him to sue me for defamation of character...)
Looks like he is pissed off that someone took some $$ out of his pocket that he really didn't earn in the first place. What we should probably do is find out what products that Consolidated Networks company distributes and see whether they are legit or if they are actually "borrowed" from other corporations' ideas.
Ya know, I don't have a $58 ECU, but I might in the future...I think I'll grab a copy of that file too while I am at it. Thanks, funstick!

 

Thanks for the post Funstick.

 

why are we even talking about this?


just ignore the dude, and keep using it. or believe the dude and stop.


no reason for another reply to even be here unless its actuall technical info about the $58 file.

(athough i am curious why its on a honda accord website )

 

I have a copy now. This might turn out like the Neiman-Marcus cookie recipe story did.

 

It's about someone trying to manipulate this list for his own profit.

On a tech note, with in the next few days I expect to see some really interesting 58 info released into the Pulic Domain.

 

Fun is using it on his boosted Honda. The 1227749 ECM in stock form (edit: while using the $58 mask) supports up to 14 psi (or so) of boost. This ECM is stock in various GM turbocharged vehicles and has found its way into many 'other' makes.

RBob.

 

ah... cool.

 

My challenge is for Mr Backus is to post a link or a copy of his "copyright". As it is public info, it should be easily found and read on the net.

Otherwise it's just blowing smoke..

Again if a particular copy is not verbatum... it's not a violation. Let alone the fact that the ECU file format is public domain.


< EDIT >

Well I've done a search at the copyright website... BTW its an alphabetical search.. and shows a segment nearest your search input.

http://www.copyright.gov/records/

$58 ecu
$58
ECU
Backus, Micheal (3 hits, nothing related)
Consolidated Networks

plus various combinations... have wasted an hour with this nonsense.

Nothing.... Nadda, zilch.. PERIOD!!

As they say.. It's time to show your cards.


BW

 

Hey Funstick you've got more mail, this one hopefully a little nicer for ya. Just a $58 ecu with a little more commented in.

 

thanx for the show of support. im sure there is more nasty mail to come. anyways this guy can **** off and kiss my *** as well as blow me. either way the file stays up. my hosting service siad unless they see a actual court judgement they arent gonna intervine at all period.


and keep sending those files. !!!

 

wink, wink, nudge, nudge... BW

 

Any links to the partial $58 hac?

trying to search here and sy/ty, no lukc as of yet?
thanks
Jeremy

 

Try www.moates.net/fileman/ under hacks.

 

thanks

new the darned thing was under my nose and i couldnt find it :-)
Jeremy

 

ummmmmmmmmmmmmm


how do i open it? cant get anything that searching for a .src file to work on my puter?

thanks
Jeremy

 

text editor

 

I wrote Craig, but you have to leave the file extension as .asm. Changing it to a .txt or .doc corrupts the file. MS adds a few lines of their stuff when you do that.

Just open with wordpad.

 

you can change the extension to whatever you want (.txt is ideal) with no problems. Opening it with notepad (and even re-saving it) doesn't add anything extra to the file (notepad is a plain-text editor).

However, opening it with word and re-saving *will* add stuff to it, so this isn't ideal.

 

hey ive set up a $58 resource www.accordcentral.com/58ecu source code etc is avaiable and avaiable for downlaod.

everybody thank bruce plecan, bill calagano and everybody else who made this happenand making available to all of us lesser deserving souls

ill be updating this as info is made available to me to post there.

Keep sending those files guys

 

Rock on DIY-EFI, this kind of stuff is great to learn and share, lets keep it that way.

 

Just to maintain my notoriety (and the fact that I MAY actually be using it) I have downloaded my copy.

I think if someone wanted to develop something like an ECU file, and especially if they have their own software, they would make it non-compatible with the stuff that's public domain.

 

The GMPCM definition files (pcm files) _are_ non compatible. What Mechanic is trying to say is that people looked at the PCM file through his editor, wrote down the tables/constants and then created a winbin/tunerpro .ecu file with the data.

Beyond the fact that the other stuff has been around longer, you can't copyright the information inside the ecu file.

That would be like me reading a book about a serial killer, then writing down what page #'s people died on, and who are their names. Then trying to sue you for the same thing! I don't own the page numbers, or the names. This information was publicly available (after purchasing the book of course).

-- Joe

 

Just reading this closes the case. He gave permission for people to do whatever they wanted with his stuff. ETC, covers alot of ground.

**************************************
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...ighlight=GMPCM

" There is no limit or requirements to register the software, and many use the evaluation edition just for its definition development, comparison capabilites, etc. "

**************************************

 

I'm still waiting for proof of this alleged copyright..


Seems otherwise it's just a load a horse manure..

BW

 

Reading that post again makes me wonder where he got the hack for $42....... Who pioneered the 1227747 for the diy community, which was one of the first ECM's to be hacked?

Nuf said.

 

it was me!


in secret, i did everything.... grumpy, saturn5, funstick...... they're all my puppets! they dont know crud about ECM hacking! i taught them everything they know!


its time i come out! I AM THE ECM MASTER!!!!!





or not

 

That mother ****er micheal backus. he has sent a compliant to my web host saying i have a copyrighted file and has now had my account suspended twice. THIS IS ****ING BULL****

Mr backus. now that you have potentially lost my website and small business some potential sales. I am going to see you in court. This is a public notice of intent.

 

I thought they said they'd do nothing until a court order?!

Unfortunately ISPs tend to play on the safe side, taking an accusation of copyright infringement at face value instead of investigating it. This is understandable. This also about the only card he has to play. He's done the same thing to Moates, and I assume he would have to me as well, had I not taken the file down way back when this popped up the first time.

Rest assured, the situation is being investigated and the enemy is being sized up.

 

ok well i finally got to the bottom of this issue. aperantly backus has sent a complaint not to my Service provider

www.getnewhosting.com back has instead back doored directly to the actual server farm. upon notifying my service provider of the issue at hand they have now decided to step in on my behalf and asked m backus to either steup with proof of a copyright or to go away.

aprently my service provider affter a lengthy phone conversation has decided to get on my side and will of course be pursuing legal action as this is a blatant attempt at harassment.

Mr backus your pissing alot of people off and the bad news is that if push comes to shove i know you dont have 2 legs to stand on in court.

I have also sent my service provider proof of pre existing file hacks etc to prove that MR backus was not only not the creator of the ECU file but that he also didnt originate the info contained in it.

MR backus your days with the constant charade are over. Stop threatening everyone, disrupting my business (For which i will attach a $$$ loss to) and cuasing genral kaos.

You do not own the information in the file. you do not have a copyright of the format in which the info is displayed. The file was not created with your program. the file is not yours to copyright.

Im pissed now man.

oh on a footnote the files are back up if anyone wants them

 

oh its also mirroed here and i will keep posting mirrors of the info have fun emailing the whole world.

http://www.com-tech-online.com/car/ecm/

 

my reply back to backus was to say the least equaly as threatening.



it would be a copy right violation if we had distributed a GMPCM PCM file .

this guy stil cracks me up. i mean WTF is he thinking. maybe i should get hire and attorneyr and have bill calagano sign on and take this ahole to court.

what do you guys think.

 

I'm thinking really hard and trying to figure out where I admitted that the $58 ECU was taken from his pcm file.

I didn't write the ECU file.

The guy thinks he's being manipulative, but instead he's just getting people fired up to take action against him.

This whole thing is rather interesting to me, and I can't wait to see what lies around the bend!

 

Has anyone PUBLICLY told this ******* to **** OFF? Guess where's there's a clandestine copy of this file...I'll admit that it's not on my home computer.

 

OK, I've just re-read all the drivel relating to this $58 ECU file. The two pertinant threads are:

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=215831

and

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=206378

For the record (and each of you can read yourselves to confirm): no where do I admit to writing the ECU file in questions, and nowhere do I admit to it being taken from the 58.pcm file.

The facts are:

-I did not write the ECU file in question.
-I do not know who did write the ECU file in question
-I took the ECU file in question down from my site within 24 hours of being notified by Michael W. Backus that there may be a copyright issue at hand - actual date and time the file was taken down: 10/21/2003, ~10:30am.
-The ECU file in question, by proof of comparison to other $58 code hacks and editor implementations that pre-date both GMPCM and TunerPro/GMECMEdit, was taken from publically available information.

This is fun!

 

Bill Calcagno has asked that his name be spelled correctly.

He has also assured me that his position in the matter remains as previously stated.

Again, mere cursory inspection of the ECU file compared to Bill's work makes it CLEAR that the ECU file is a derivative work which was sourced from Bill's work. Since he is OK with that, there is NOT AN ISSUE HERE!

 

My wife is a junior criminal investigator. Should I let her in on the fun too? She has plenty of friends that would only have too much fun making this whole thing look like a ploy to manipulate the US legal system and its associated loopholes.
I wonder if I could make some $$ off this whole fiasco...hmmm...
Nah...just kidding. I had the same problem a couple of weeks ago on a Jeep board. Some turdburglar tried to copyright welding. He told me I wasn't allowed to weld because I wasn't him...that's the gist of it. He told me that I can't weld my own suspension links because it takes $$ out of his pocket...and he's many hundreds of miles away from me. (that's the gist of what he said...)
*******s like this need to be shipped to a desert island in the South Pacific so that they can be among friends.

 

Backuas is way off base here. The inherient problem with fighting with people on the internet, is that there is alot of tough talk. Where if these same people had to make these allegations fac to face, the mod would be much more suttle.

I guess what i'm trying to say is that law-enforcement has more important stuff to deal with than this. He's trying to scare people into complying with his orders.

and with that I say get f#$ked M. backus

 

I think he already has...