Can someone give me an idiots guide how to actually datalog with TunerPro RT?.

I can get to where I can monitor things, but when I do what I think should be recording, nada.....

Has anyone happen to have done an updated .ads for the 58 Code?.
TIA

 

Hi Grumpy,
It is an honor to help you.


1) You go to Tools
2) Select ALDL/Data logging.
3) Under the TAB “Setup”
4) Select the definition file.
5) Under “Select log file for Record/Play”; select a file that you want to record. (Default is “data.adl”)
6) You can also use more sessions. (just below
7) The next step is hit the “Connect to ECM”
When you are connected you will se the radio button “Rec” light up, so you can start you recording your data.

On top you have a small window with the “Actual sample rate” watch this window.

My experience with a 165 ECM is that I need to setup to 8Hz.

How you do that?
1) You go to “tools”
2) Select “Preferences”
3) Select the tab “ALDL/Emulation
4) At the left you have the window with the interface selection left that at MAX232 if you use any kind of cable connection and only select “Autoprom” if you use one of those.
5) Select you dedicated “Com port”
6) Here at the next window you can select the “Target Sample Rate” (my case 8 Hz)

I hope that with these instructions you can have your Data Logging.

Remember some times you need to hit the button “Connect to ECM” several times.

If you have done a session of data logging with other software, you need to re-initiate you operating system and your car to get a success connection. That is because “Windows” claim the COM port all the time.

Regards,
Cobra289

 

Normally I send Doc out looking for info,
I better print this out until the finger memory kicks in,

Thanks

 

Hi Grumpy,
Who is Doc?
Is a different person?
If that is the case, is Grumpy a DIY PROM institution?
The memory change in routine and depends of the amount of use.
Regards,
Cobra289

 

Hehe... I'll try and answer this...

Noone knows who Doc is.. He and the other little guys seem to be shy, only Grumpy makes his presense known. And your correct, Grumpy is head of a DIY Prom institution, with the headquarters being called the CSH (cone shaped hat). All this goes way back into the DIY-EFI.org archives.. Just make sure to line your hat with tin-foil. BW

 

Thanks Saturn5 for introducing me to the “Fairy Tale” I don’t know how you call it but I think that I know what you mean.
My English knowledge is too small to pick that up. Sorry for that.
The initials of my full name are, C.H.S. what a coincident almost the “Cone Shaped Hat”.
Regards from the “Dutch Duck”.
Cobra289

 

Oh!
I found in the net the description of the names.

 

I've spent a ridiculous amount of time trying to figure this out and no dice.
I get to step 5 where I select the file for Rec/Play and there is no .adl files anywhere in the TunerPro folders. If I leave it blank altogether and press record it tells me "error creating log file". If I select any of the .bin,.ads,.bls.,.ecu, etc it tells me invalid log format. Why can't I get it to record?

-Brian P

 

When you get to step 5 as above, Click "select log file for rec/play"
You should type a filename you want it to be and TunerPro will create it when you hit "open".
It should work, the .adl will be added to the file name you type in so you won't have to enter that.
Jp

 

I should've just asked before I spent the time fooling with it. Thank you so much!

-Brian P

 

I haven't seen a valid .ads file for the 7747 yet.
I was hoping someone would come up with one.

 

Not for sure of your baud rate on that, but TunerPro is having alittle trouble with his 165 baud collection.

He is working on it some more, last I heard.

Messed with an ADS file I made for a '8747 for about 4 hours before giving up. Not repeatable, data that is.

 

actually 165 baud collection works fine for both 8192 and 160. Its the other ECMs at 160 baud that seem to have a little trouble. But yes, it will work better in the next version.

 

Grumpy,

Not sure if this will help you but I have been working with Mangus to get a good ads file for the SyTy (58 Turbo Code on a 7749). You can give this ads file a try. You might have to change some of the formula for the inputs. We didn't go through them all to make sure they were setup correctly and reporting the correct infromation. (ie we found the throttle TPS% was set wrong so it wasn't displaying correctly).

The only way we have been able to get connect to my Typhoon is to hit connect and then send the ECM Idle Command in the ads file list below until the errors stop climbing. Then you should be able to log the data.

SyTy Ads

Let me know if you find anything that needs to be changed.
Paul Schwab
93 Black/Black Typhoon #424
http://www.nwstp.com
Kirkland, WA

 

Just sharing these because I had inconsistent operation of my Autoprom...sometimes it would work great and sometimes it wouldn't.
I'm using the USB type Autoprom with a 730 ECM on a Win98SE laptop.
When I did the following it seemed to operate quite consistently:

A. STARTED THE COMPUTER AND WENT TO BIOS.

1. In the BIOS (Press F2 during startup and go to the "ports" section) I "DISABLED" COM1 and COM2. Saved changes and exited for booting to windows.

B. Hook up all your Autoprom hardware to your computer/laptop.

B. FOLLOWING REBOOT, went to windows
2. I placed a copy of the "riched20.dll" file in each of the following:
windows/system
windows/system32
progra~1/tunerprort/
progra~1/tunerprort/bins/
progra~1/tunerprort/ads/
progra~1/tunerprort/ecus
progra~1/tunerprort/layouts

2. I saved the moates drivers to their own specific folder so I could find them easily then ensured they were installed in the COM3 PORT. (Go to START->SETTINGS->CONTROL PANEL->SYSTEM->DEVICE MANAGER). Under device manager you should find COM3, go in there and set your drivers to the moates drivers per the website instructions.

3. Start your Autoprom program, select a valid bin, select a valid ecu.
4. go to TOOLS in Tunerpro, select PREFERENCES, select COM3, and AUTOPROM.

5. I would suggest rebooting right about now, leaving everything hooked up, and let the computer find the hardware and all. After the computer starts, then start TUNERPRO, it should state if it finds the Autoprom at the bottom edge of the TUNERPRO screen.

6. Once in Autoprom, assuming the computer latched onto the hardware, you can then go to TOOLS/ALDL DATA LOGGING (or press F4).

7. Once once you're in data logging, then ensure that you load the selected datastream.

8. After the selected datastream is loaded, and if everything came together properly, you should be able to connect to the ECM....it informs you if it connected.


If that's a bit too wordy, my apologies in advance, I was just wishing somebody would have written it for me. I struggled for hours(& days) trying to apply what I could find available for instructions. Haven't had an opportunity to check Emulation since I got it working well. When I had it working intermittently, and used the Emulation feature, the car would stumble and miss intermittently.

If I thinkof anything else I'll share.

jcj




6.

 

Great writeup Silvernblack.

Just to be clear, in step 2, you only need richedit20.dll in your TunerPro RT directory, although system and system32 are also valid places to put the dll). No need to place it in any of the other subdirs.

Also, things really speed up with the moates.net USB devices if you put the latency to 1ms (it defaults to 15ms). This is in the advanced settings of the driver in the device manager.

The second reboot (5) is unnecessary.

Finally, the it is now (in 3.09), TunerPro will not work with USB interfaces (AutoProm includded in passthrough mode, not AutoProm mode) for 160 baud acquisition (8192 works fine, though). The next version WILL support USB 160 baud acquisition. For some USB interfaces 4800 baud is necessary, and 3.09 makes use of 2400 baud to acquire the 160 baud packets.

 

I can't find the default.adl or any other log file in tunerpro to start datalogging. Can someone help? Thanks...

 

specify your own. just browse to the directory you want to save it in, then type in a filename!

(this is a common question... can't figure out why!)

 

Because IMO it should start logging without you having to start a new file like that but when you are done it should then ask you waht you want to call it and where you want to save it like most other windows apps that the majority is familiar with...

 

The reason I ask for the file up front is that I stream the data into the file while logging. I'm certainly not going to take up megs of RAM for those of you in the stone age who insist on having 66MHZ machines with 8 MB of RAM. =)

What I could do is cache the data to a file, then ask where you'd like to place the file and name it.

 

Sounds like a plan then:hail:

 

Ah, if it were only that easy. That would mean I would have to be clever about multiple sessions in a file. Currently, when you select a file, you can record as many sessions to it as you want.

If I don't ask for a file until after the session is recorded, then I need to figure out a way to either move and rename the file (in the case where a new file is selected), or break the just-recorded session out of the temporary file and add it to a new file, or break out the just-recorded session and add the session to an existing file.

Long story short, I ask for the file up front for simplicity in design and code.

I'll see what I can come up with, though. I want people to be happy.

A man's work is never done...

 

Don't trip then, I don't have a problem with it at all. I just mentioned it as a way for it to no longer be a frequent question that you get...

 

Nah, if it makes more sense to people to ask them what they want to do with the session they just recorded after they record it rather than before they record it, I'll work to comply.

 

Hey I use a 486 Toshiba with 16meg Mark I wouldn't worry about this File name thing Isn't a big deal. Save the Brain Power For something else, I am getting ready to start the DataLogging walkthrough for the intro to Proms Revision and I can Do a Indepth Walk through on this. Ps If 4.0 is gonna be Different DataLogging Let me know that Way I can incorperate this in to the walk through So I won't have to Update it, Thanks

 

I have 233mhz and 32mb of ram on my laptop and I am over 40 so it's a little more difficult to figure stuff out when I have no comp skills or training. So having said that, what type of file do I pick? Anyone? Can you give an example plz? I am not understanding it at all. Sorry for my incompetence.

 

When you click to select a file, type in a name like datafile1 and hit enter, then hit record.

I guess I'm Mr. Overkill over here with a Sony VAIO PCG-XG500, 512MB RAM, 20GB HD, PIII 900, XP Pro SP2, etc....

 

Heh. I personally have a dual proc 3.06 gig Xeon machine with 512MB. I think I'm mr. overkill. Of course, I work on computers for a living, so I suppose its justified.

Cap'n - Click the "select file" button, browse to the folder in which you want to save it, and type a name, such as "thisismylog". TunerPro will append the file extension (ADL) for you. Then just click record whenever you're ready. To play it back, just hit play!

M

 

Sorry to hear your're Intel, I'm AMD

Now if you want to talk desktops I'll kick your a$$ I do computers for a living too...

(The above is all meant in good fun, not to bash )

 

Thanks guys...I did what you said before I saw your posts. Had to go to work. But I found how to do it by accident.