Maybe craig could help me here, or anybody for that example. I can't seem to get the dataloggin and emulating working at the saem time. I bougth the autoprom from somebody but they didn't have the instructions/manual to go with it. I saw what was on his site, but it seems to be lacking current information. I also bought the G2 switching adapter, but I don't know what setting to put it on while I'm emulating. I though I was emulating, but whatever I changed in the tables didn't have any effect on how the vehicle ran. Needless to say it consistantly run like crap, And after 2 weeks of reading post to get the tunerpro and autoprom talking to the car, I haven't gotten anywhere. Any and all help would be appreciated.

 

What ECM, mask and trans?
Hard to help with specifics without full details on what you have.

Make sure you have the correct comm ports selected if you are using the USB. (does the computer see the device in device manager and does hardware initialize when loading TunerPro)
If both are not "yes" then you need to check your settings again.
TP should be set for AutoProm and not MAX232.

Check that the emulation adapter is turned the right way and is positioned in the adapter (if there are extra holes)
If it still doesn't seem right, double check your emulation cable end to end with an ohm meter to insure the wires are not crossed. I had a bad connection in one end that kept it from working. Was a simple fix just hard to diagnose.

If using the switching adapter be sure the switch on the actual adapter is set to "0" or the remote will not select correctly.
See the info on Craig's site to confirm the right position on the G2.
"G3" is "0" for sure.

When loading your bin, are you setting the right offset or if unsure try stacking the bin and loading it that way.
The "stock" Autoprom can emulate the 256K chip and loading of the bin needs to be handled as such.
You may be maling adjustments to a bin that is not the one being run. Sure sounds that way if you are not getting a check engine light.
Key needs to be on to do the upload and verify IIRC. I think you can upload but verify will fail without power on.

 

JP, ECMis 7747, mask is $42, trans is a 2004R. I do have is set to autoprom, comm port is 3, even reinstalled Craigs USB driver. I got it to emulate while in the max 232 mode in the properties. As far as the switch, the is nothing on the G2 on Craigs website, just the g1/g3. so 0 is a start, I had it on A. I haven't checked the cable yet, and I didn't see much info about the bin stacking so I am going to have to find some info on that. The tunerpro help file doesn't really say much, and as I said, there were no instructions with the swith or G2 switching adapter to know what address goes to what number/letter. If somebody knows please tell me or point me to where I can find it.

Thanx JP

:edit: I can't datalog while in the USB mode in the properties or on the autoprom (switch away from usb port I think) It does let me upload a bin, and confirm with key on. But when I make changes the engine runs no different.

 

liquid - you might try giving Craig a call. He'll walk you through it.

 

Is his number posted on his website, maybe I can email him and ask for it. That's a good idea Magnus. I'll try that.

 

liquidh8, the switch needs to be in towards the USB and the rest of the connectors. That is the "autoprom" mode. Switch away is just a max232 cable.
I too haven't been able to datalog AND emulate with my autoprom. I just gave up with it since it's not a big deal. I've got the USB version and have all the settings correct in TunerPro but it just won't work . I've tried it on a 730, 165, and 8746 ecms, nothing worked. I've had best results just datalogging with TunerPro in the bypass mode then unplugging the autoprom, switching it back to autoprom mode, and plugging it back in. My laptop makes a confirm beep when the device is found and configured, then I initialize the hardware from the TunerPro menu and proceed to upload the new bin. The only time I've ever needed to do both datalogging and emulating has been to get the idle perfect. For that I run a romulator and TunerCat RT while datalogging with TunerPro. It's strange, but I do the best with what I've got.

 

Jon -

I've verified it works just fine with the 165 and 7730. We can hook up offline if you'd like to get it working.

M

 

I have had mine working with the 730 real nice.
There must be something there thatis screwy in the configs.
Took me more than a few times to get the configuration on the ports worked out. Don't forget to set the latency to 1 as in the instruction on the USB driver. I used Datamaster to confirm I could do MAX232 pass through then went to AP mode in TP to be sure the AP was doing what it should.
If it won't datalog in AP mode with TP and you're sure the configs and files you have are good then Craig or Magnus may be the only one to give you a solid answer.You can upload to the AP with the key off but to verify the key needs to be on.
The emulation part should give you a blink of the SES when you first turn the key on to confim the bin is loaded and working. If it doesn't, you'll get a solid light when you try to run and you'll know its not right. Try to make each work by itself then as a combination.
You could also use the serial port for logging if you have one and use the USB for the emulator. That way the settings can be tweaked individually.
HTH

 

Craig and Mark are the man, er men. They stayed on the phone with me for 1 hour till I got everything working. THANK YOU.

 

and, your problem turned out to be ?

and you did what to fix it ?

 

Sorry about that. The emulating and datlogging doesn't work with the 160 baud, yet. But to get it emulating, I had to open tunerpro, load the bin, upload. Turn on the key, hook up the cable, verify. Then shut off the key few a few seconds, and turn it back on. Then everything worked.

I am using a snap on MT-2500 to verify that tuner-pro, and the apu1 is emulating. Those are what we did to get it all to work for me.

 

Hmm, I'm having trouble with doing emulating and data logging on a 7747 with TP-RT and AutoProm. Am I understanding correctly that this does not work because 7747 is 160 baud. I hope that is not the case, since the only reason I bought the AutoProm was for the ability to emulate, log, and tweak on the fly...

 

I found out after getting an Autoprom that it would not run both together unless you were using Tunerpro rt.

IE: I wanted to run Winaldl and TunercatR/T and it would not.

Craig then set me up with an Ostrich and the aldl1 unit and I've been happy with the setup ever since. You can then run any combo of datalogging and emulation that you want. It was a learning curve for me also.

DM

 

I was using TunerPro RT and the AutoProm, but still having no luck logging AND emulating at the same time. Got fed up yesterday and haven't fooled with it today, so who knows, maybe I'll figure out the magic incantation to get it working next time.

Instead of fooling with the ECM/PROM today, I pulled the TB down for some mods and a new VRFPR (that I may or may not VR, depending on the chip burning progress) and found out I didn't have all the gaskets I needed, so no it's not running, and that means no further TunerPro/AutoProm testing until I get it back together. Something I wanted to do anyway, so I figured I should get it done before I start "tuning" in earnest (so that I'm not chasing a moving target)...

 

Craig is working on a firmware fix as I type to enable simultaneous 160 baud monitoring/logging and emulation for the AutoProm.

 

Well, thanks for the update. I thought it was just another of my "painful ignorance" experiences, of which there have been quite a few in this DIY PROM project. At least now I know not to waste any more time trying to figure it out for now, I must have cursed that thing and myself for at least 2+ hours yesterday.

 

Very sorry about that!

 

Magnus, I too look forward to the fix for this. As soon as you and craig get if fixed. I'm ready. lol. BadDog, good luck with your tuning.

 

GREAT NEWS !!!! I patiently await the fix...

I finally got my heep running and with the carb cam its running a little rich. I love running in emulation mode and I've been 'tring' to collect data and make some small edits but am driving blind.

Good news is I fully understand the need to tune AND log. Sometimes you need to go without somthing to see the benifits of having it :>

 

No sweat, I just hope it's fixed soon. It wouldn't have been such a big PIA if I hadn't already made some realy ignorant oversights, so I just assumed I was doing it again, and kept at it, and kept at it, and kept at it... like the energizer bunny stuck in a corner...

Only real gripe I've got, other than I ponnied up for the AutoProm specifically for that feature, is that it seems this limitation was known, but not documented or disclosed. Not only did I buy something that won't work as expected, but I worse yet, wasted time to get something working that does not.

Still, the price was fair given what I know had to have been involved in development, that unit is a fantastic little piece of engineering. And Craig has been very good with responding to my sometimes unbelievably clueless questions, so I am all in all fairly satisfied. I just hope the fix comes in soon.

I can only marvel at you guys who had the intelligence and patience to download binary and edit in hex… [bow]