Tuner Pro RT Datatracing?
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Tuner Pro RT Datatracing?
Can someone explain what this is/is for and how do you set it up to be useful. Thanx for any and all help.
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IT IS NICE 
Connect/associate your VE table definition to MAP (X) and RPM (Y) of your ADS file.
Open your VE table editing box open and then run a datalog.
The cursor will highlight the cells as your logging.
Bring up the monitor screen and set one of them to view the BLM, observe the BLM value as the log plays and adjust the cells.
Just one of many possible uses.
Setting a threshold value for a constant is easier when you can watch the value. Constants bring up a window next to the constant editor box.
The only issue I have with it is that once you do an association to an item, your files must not be moved or the association is lost.
I was not able to find the location of the "path" statement that defines the location of the ADS reletive to the location of the XDF.
For now its best to put the files into the folders below TP so they stay reletive to each other.

Connect/associate your VE table definition to MAP (X) and RPM (Y) of your ADS file.
Open your VE table editing box open and then run a datalog.
The cursor will highlight the cells as your logging.
Bring up the monitor screen and set one of them to view the BLM, observe the BLM value as the log plays and adjust the cells.
Just one of many possible uses.
Setting a threshold value for a constant is easier when you can watch the value. Constants bring up a window next to the constant editor box.
The only issue I have with it is that once you do an association to an item, your files must not be moved or the association is lost.
I was not able to find the location of the "path" statement that defines the location of the ADS reletive to the location of the XDF.
For now its best to put the files into the folders below TP so they stay reletive to each other.
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Originally posted by JP86SS
I was not able to find the location of the "path" statement that defines the location of the ADS reletive to the location of the XDF.
For now its best to put the files into the folders below TP so they stay reletive to each other.
I was not able to find the location of the "path" statement that defines the location of the ADS reletive to the location of the XDF.
For now its best to put the files into the folders below TP so they stay reletive to each other.
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Didn't look there

Thanks,
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I think I understand. I'll have to play with it this weekend, I'll post back in a few days to let yous guys know I made out. Thanx
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Fixed issue with Function object editor - X/Y combo box changes do not allow OK/Apply
Im one of them people that just likes to keep what ive got. No changes. Diffrent is not good.
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91GTABird, i would recommend getting 4.13, it works quite well & with no problems for me so far, but if for some reason you decide you don't like it, you can always reinstall you older version.
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You've got mail 
It's an $8D file but will let you play.

It's an $8D file but will let you play.
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thx..........hopefully it will be running strong this year...
I cant get the X/Y ALDL links to work on tables, or do I have to have a ALDL connected? The "select X Axis.." isnt highlighted.....
I have version 4.13..............
I cant get the X/Y ALDL links to work on tables, or do I have to have a ALDL connected? The "select X Axis.." isnt highlighted.....
I have version 4.13..............
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You must set the axis "lables" in the definition to either Integer or Floating point to allow it to work.
The datastream info is a number and has to be able to look up the value. If it is a "string" it can't work.
there's a good description in the help file.
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The datastream info is a number and has to be able to look up the value. If it is a "string" it can't work.
there's a good description in the help file.
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QUOTE]If it is a "string" it can't work.
there's a good description in the help file.
(Magnus always reminds me of that )[/QUOTE]
Note to anyone not familiar with the help file. It contains just about any answer to your Tunerpro questions. Im guilty myself of forgetting to refer to the help file first.
It contains ALOT of helpfull info.
there's a good description in the help file.
(Magnus always reminds me of that )[/QUOTE]
Note to anyone not familiar with the help file. It contains just about any answer to your Tunerpro questions. Im guilty myself of forgetting to refer to the help file first.
It contains ALOT of helpfull info.
I don't understand, I have tried every combinataion of integer floating point etc.. and have read the help numerous times, and the x and y axis aldl link buttons STILL will not highlight so that I can click on them. Where are you guys going to get this to work? I am running the most current version. I am getting irritated because I'm sure it's right in front of my face but yet I've wasted the last 2 hours trying to figure it out.
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It isnt highlight and wont let me select it. Any ideas?
It isnt highlight and wont let me select it. Any ideas?
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Originally posted by gta324
Could someone send me a datalog file, I would like to try this function and my car is not driveable....
thx/N.
Could someone send me a datalog file, I would like to try this function and my car is not driveable....
thx/N.
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ok, I've been playing with it. And I am not having very good luck. I've tried to get the main SA table and the VE1 table linked so I can datatrace. BTW, using the 7747 xdf and the _42 ads file. If I change the map to floating point, and the rpm x 100 to integer, or floating point, the datatrace on references the map, it doesn't correspond to the rpm. i.e., the map cells highlight correctly, but it is always in the 3200 rpm column. Anybody have any idea's, or maybe a snapshot or their settings?? I would be great if I could get this to work.
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"X" is horizontal, "Y" is the vertical in case that is the error.
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You have to use a log file and ADS file that is for your appliation. Are you doing that?
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JP, my cells are lighting up like that, they just aren't going in the right rpm columns, the MAP is right.
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the xdf is the 7747 from craigs site. trying to upload but I can't change the file type
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Let me try it on my machine and well try and see wheres our differences.
I also need a logfile.
You can jsut email me the log at Bsmith91@midsouth.rr.com if you want.
I also need a logfile.
You can jsut email me the log at Bsmith91@midsouth.rr.com if you want.
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thanx 91GTA, you have mail. I hope I am just missing something stupid.
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Originally posted by 79_EFI_Z
What is the RPM(/25) in your screenshot? I set my y axis to engine speed(did not rename it) and have no problems.
What is the RPM(/25) in your screenshot? I set my y axis to engine speed(did not rename it) and have no problems.
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91, any luck?? Figured I'd ask again, I still can't get the VE table to coencide with the datlog.
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The problem may in in the ADS file.
I don't see any other reason why it wouldn't work. Confirm the calculations on those items are not out of the numerical range indicated in the XDF.
I don't see any other reason why it wouldn't work. Confirm the calculations on those items are not out of the numerical range indicated in the XDF.
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I'll try a different ads file today, I'll have some time to datalog and mess around with it. Thanx, I'll let yous guys know.
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Well, I tried 3 different ADS files, and tried every combo of floating point, integer, string that there was and to no avail. All I get is the yellow highlighting the cells in the 3200 rpm column, They move around to the right KPA rows, but they don't highlight the correct corrosponding column. I'm at the end of my rope, any other suggestions????
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I don't have a log file for the 7747. Can you shoot one to me?
I'll take a look and see if I spot anything.
I got the cells to move around using an $8D log file and changing values in the datastream so they would numerically display as if they were the correct readings from a 7747 log.
Use the minitors to show you what values are being displayed for RPM and MAP.
If they are not moving or out of the numerical range of the item, then you'll need to find out what is doing that.
Could be the XDF scale factors or the ADS calculations.
I'll take a look and see if I spot anything.
I got the cells to move around using an $8D log file and changing values in the datastream so they would numerically display as if they were the correct readings from a 7747 log.
Use the minitors to show you what values are being displayed for RPM and MAP.
If they are not moving or out of the numerical range of the item, then you'll need to find out what is doing that.
Could be the XDF scale factors or the ADS calculations.
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Fixed 'em up 
The row labels in the XDF were set to read as RPM x 100 so the values were much lower than the data that was coming in.
displayed values were still calculating as full numbers, that's what was throwin' you the curve.

The row labels in the XDF were set to read as RPM x 100 so the values were much lower than the data that was coming in.
displayed values were still calculating as full numbers, that's what was throwin' you the curve.
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BTW, Is that what 160 baud is like?
YUK !
I was smacking the monitor to get the data to come out faster!
Guess I didn't know I had it so good
YUK !
I was smacking the monitor to get the data to come out faster!
Guess I didn't know I had it so good
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yeha, 160 baud, lol. Thanx JP I owe you big time, I guess I need a fresh input on it. I totally missed that. Thanx!! What do ya think of those VE tables?? lol, big injecters and cam got me all screwy. The data tracing should help. Thanx again
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