Electronics Need help wiring something up? Thinking of adding an electrical component to your car? Need help troubleshooting that wiring glitch?

AIr/Fuel Guage not consistant

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 5, 2001 | 09:44 PM
  #1  
FastElectrics's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,244
Likes: 2
From: Kelowna, B.C.
Car: 89 Camaro RS
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 2.73
AIr/Fuel Guage not consistant

I've installed an Autometer Air/Fuel ratio guage, and once the system is hot, the guage is not consistant, while traveling a constant speed. sometimes to goes quite lean, flutters between lean & rich (which iI think is normal), and sometimes it goes blank. Is this normal? Thanks


------------------
89 RS Camaro, LO3 305 TBI
Cooling Fan Overide Switch
L69 Duel Snorkel Intake
Dynomax Ultra Flo SS Cat Back
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2001 | 12:05 AM
  #2  
Graeme'sFirebird's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 1,777
Likes: 0
From: First one out of liberty city, burn it to the ground
Mine does it too, but ive been told by a couple people my ecm is going out, so im getting a new ecm and prom.

------------------
1989 Firebird. Modded.
700r4-->t5 w/ram clutch
Cold air, 1.6 rockers, 21lb injectors, 3" y-pipe, random tech cat, 3" ipipe, flowmaster 80 series 3" in 3" out hand made stainless tips, Lakewood LCA's, Msd 6a, Msd coil, Wonder Bar, 180* stat,
Coming Soon: T/a hood, Painted,Spohn Panhard Bar, 4thgen Front Seats, Cam!, Msd 8.5 wires, Posi (ACCEL IS CRAP)
"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT have run at all"
See my car Here!
In Memory of #3 Dale Earnhardt
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2001 | 02:06 AM
  #3  
Jza's Avatar
Jza
Moderator
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 4,384
Likes: 2
From: Tulsa, OK
In 89, you start to see highway mode inacted by the ECMs. The oxygen sensor reads a narrow band right around stoich, so when the car goes into highway mode, the gauge goes low or blanks out completely because the AF ratio has gone below the minimum range. This should happen when you're cruising at steady throttle above 55mph.

So that behavior is normal. It should come back up (out of highway mode) if you let off the gas or give it some throttle or drop below 53mph.

[This message has been edited by Jza (edited September 06, 2001).]
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2001 | 02:06 AM
  #4  
deadbird's Avatar
TGO Supporter
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 6,775
Likes: 27
From: So.west IN
Car: 87 Formula/ 00 Xtreme
Engine: TPI 305/ v6
Transmission: struggling t-5/ 4l60E
Axle/Gears: 3.08/ 3.23
From Auto meter, apparently from the top image, the movement is 'normal'

http://www.autometer.com/hp/techtips/tips.html
------------------
The mind is like a parachute, it only works when its open


[This message has been edited by deadbird (edited September 06, 2001).]
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2001 | 02:10 AM
  #5  
Jza's Avatar
Jza
Moderator
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 4,384
Likes: 2
From: Tulsa, OK
lol. synchronized posting and editing..
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2001 | 02:16 AM
  #6  
deadbird's Avatar
TGO Supporter
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 6,775
Likes: 27
From: So.west IN
Car: 87 Formula/ 00 Xtreme
Engine: TPI 305/ v6
Transmission: struggling t-5/ 4l60E
Axle/Gears: 3.08/ 3.23
LoL
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2001 | 08:08 AM
  #7  
u r sofa king we tah did's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 943
Likes: 1
From: texas
it is normal. ive got one and its supposed to do that. it wont ever stay still once the ecm is in closed loop. bouncing back between rich and lean is ok. but if you are constantly bouncing around in only the rich or only the lean lights, then you have a problem. the only thing i use this gauge for is to watch it when i hit the nitrous, you wanna make sure your light stays just in the green at WOT with NOS
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2001 | 01:39 PM
  #8  
slowV8berlinetta's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 220
Likes: 0
From: milwaukee, WI
if the a/f gauge goes into an o2 sensor, which i'm assuming it does, this is normal, because on a fuel injected car, the a/f/ ratio constantly varies to keep the cat hot enough and for proper catalyzing. o2 sensor voltages constantly vary once the sensor heats up. this is what is referred to as "closed loop" operation. "open loop" is before the o2 sensor is hot enough and the a/f ratio is determined by the ECT.

------------------
'84 Berlinetta, LG4, 700R-4, starwars interior, no major mods yet
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
sheachopper
Cooling
11
Jul 31, 2019 11:27 AM
tmellott89
DIY PROM
7
Oct 14, 2015 02:06 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:49 PM.