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Old 08-28-2003, 11:29 AM
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Rewiring the brights to another switch Help Please

My stalk in my 1990 Camaro doesnt click back so I cant use my brights. But I need brights to pass inspection. So I was going to rewire the brights to a toggle switch but I need to know what color wires it is at the stalk switch.. Can ayone help me?
Old 08-28-2003, 02:25 PM
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Why not just adjust or replace the original one (switch) ? It would be as much or less hassle than jerry rigging in some switch.
Old 08-28-2003, 02:27 PM
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The wire comming of the column should be light green for brights and tan for regular headlights. The light green wire also goes to the fog light relay, without this wire you can't turn on your fog lights if so equiped.
Old 08-31-2003, 11:34 PM
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so I need a switch between the yellow for power in the middle the green on one post and the yellow on the other post??? Thats what it looks like in the Haynes manual.
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Well I found the wires. But I cant get them out of the sterering column. but I see them down at the bottom of the dash. Is it a good idea to cut them there and put a switch in there. all I need is the brights to work I dont care if the indicator works.
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use scotch locks instead of cutting that way you can easily put it back to stock later. why not put a new switch in there. the last one i installed only cost about 150, and that was for a buick. might be cheaper for the maro. if you take it somewere to be installed it should not be more than 1.5 - 2.0 hours to do on the labor chart. if they tell you differntly then they are pulling a fast one you and takeing your money. hell most if the time i can get it done in about an hour.

but dont cut anything on the permenent harness, but the t/s switch side should be ok if you must.

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was that 150 including the switch itself???
We just tried the method of putting the switch in down below and it didnt work. I think Im just gonna find someone who I can bribe to pass my inspection. That would cost less then fixing everything that doesnt pass. Cause It still doesnt have a Cat converter and the tint is illegal.
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the 150 was just for the switch, and i charge 50 and hour labor so in between 75 and 100 for labor. that would be what the usual cost is around here, but you still need to double check on the cost of a switch for your camaro, because it may be cheaper.

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Floor mounted dimmer switch

There is a tech article about about installing a floor dimmer (hi/low beam) switch in the tech articles section on the home page. It worked for me. Good Luck.
Old 09-13-2003, 11:32 AM
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I never replaced that switch before but i can't see it taking two hours for a mechanic to do on a camaro. Remove the hush panel, Drop the column, disconnect the wires, remove the few small screws and then put the new switch on, plug it in, adjust it properly, and then bolt the column back up and put the hush panel back on. It's about $18 from Napa.
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then you forgot the fact that the steering wheel has to come off, and all the internals of the column have to come out down to the switch. and when you do this, usually the bearing that the shaft rides on decides to work its way loose so that bearing has to be put to back into place which could take a few seconds or could be a pain and take several min.

also that time is book time, so that is what most everyone goes by at least in my area.

all the little stuff ads up real quick time wise.

so that time is not out of line.

also, know that i have about $380 worth of special tools to put back all of that steering colum stuff.

so it is not cheap to be in the auto electrical feild. i have spent around 10 grand this last year on tools alone, most of them being some sort of special tool, and i still have a lot more to buy,

it is not cheap to be a mechanic, because if you plan on doing this for a long period of time, craftsman does not cut it.

thanks
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Oh. I didn't think the whole column had to come apart. I figured if you held the rod in place you could just take the switch off and put the new one in without having to take the column apart.
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i think you are talking about the ignition switch. if that is the case then no you dont have to take apart the column, or even take it loose in most cases. but the t/s switch is under the wheel. the other name for the t/s switch is the multifuntion switch, (the brights, wipers, and t/s in one) which is what gm uses in most of there cars.

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I have replaced the turn signal switch before (I would have saved myself some time and money had I known that pep boys sells those little return springs lol) and it only required a lock plate and a wheel puller to get to, $40 worth of tools or free if you rent it from autozone. Hardest part was getting the wiring down the column.

But i'm 99.9% sure that the brights are not part of the turn signal switch in thirdgens. There is a switch further down the column that is bolted to it with a rod that moves when you pull on the t/s lever. A friend of mines 93 bonneville is the same and i beleive my dads 84 Skyhawk is also.

Here is the diagram of the column. http://3gc.net/misc/6-32.gif The t/s switch is #12, the dimmer switch (brights switch) is #86, and the ignition switch is #85. He needs to replace the dimmer switch, or maybe just adjust it.
Old 09-13-2003, 09:39 PM
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it looks like in that particular application that it is seperate. but i have changed gm ones that have all been in the ts switch. i am not sure on the f body come to think of it because i have never paid attention when i have changed them, and i have not changed them on f body because of the brights not working, but because of the ts not working. if i remember mon. i will check into it to see if they are seperate.

yes the parts stores rent a tool are cheep, but i have master sets of the stuff i have so the cost and quality are more.

thanks
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