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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 11:23 PM
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91 Z28, New everything, NO SPARK!

I just did an L98 Stroker, with TPI, and i have repalced the distributor, the cap, rotor, wires, plugs, and msd coil...still no spark. The service engine soon light is on aswell, everthing worked great before the rebuild. Any help would be amazing. You can also reach me at dahliametal@hotmail.com-Thanks Alex
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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Is there 12VDC at the coil with the ignition ON?

Is the distributor turning?

Any help would be amazing.
It's not really amazing. That's what we DO here.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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Car: 1991 Z28
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yeah, i checked the coil with the ignition on, and th distributor is definitely turning..i am checking the wiring harness for a possible bad wire..??
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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well I had this problem a long time ago with my IROC....was that small controler in the bottow of the the distribuitor.....the one that have the conectors on it..... I replaced and everything back to normal....

this part control de spark so if stop to work no spark at all....
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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We had a similar issue this past weekend when starting my new 350.

We ran into an issue where we were 180deg off, so we had to turn the dist.

We had spark prior to this, but after we turned the dist. we didnt have spark... so we were like WTF...

Turns out we got a little bit of oil on the center of the rotor, so it wasnt getting a good connection.

Make sure all of the connectors on the cap and rotor are clean and give it another go.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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Car: 1991 Z28
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well, i certainly tried that...still no luck though! i think it's the damned ecm...no one thinks that is possible, but i have tried everything else! thank you though, i will try that once more.-Alex
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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you sure you got a good ground?

I dunno if I think its the ECM... you have an old dist. cap and rotor to give a shot? Coil possibly too.
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 07:48 AM
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I am not sure if its the same on a 91, but in my 86 there was a fuse near the battery that applied 12v to the ECM that was keeping my car from starting
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Try disconnecting the timing connector. Part of the "NO START" flow chart. It may also be a distributor ground problem. You also need to check the coil negative terminal to see if you are getting the pulse signal. And check to see if you are getting B+ at the coil when cranking. I think the starter feeds the crank voltage.
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Car: 1987 Iroc Z28
Engine: The KING of the 3rd gen TPI's.
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Distributor (ignition) module ?

(GM part# 10482827).

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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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I was talking yesterday with a buddy of mine...and he said he had the same problem....test if you have power before the coil....if you do the problem is really the spark module or the reele....or the wire that goes to it....
If the module (ecm) was bad you will not have the de flash....ups...have you tried to take the take the codes from the ecm? 12...3 times?

Ahhh another thing if you car is older (with the maf sensor) they have a reele at the driver side close to the master cilinder that can cut the spark too....
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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FIXED IT DUH!?

The plug from the ignition coil was mixed up with a coolant temp sensor under the plenum. I can't believe what i had done! But, the motor had to come back out, the rear thrust bearing was leaving metal in my oil pan and filter, but after 150 miles, that stroker is pretty damn fast! I highly recommend it to you thinking of a 383 conversion! Thanks for the help everyone. Sincerely, Alex
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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That'll do it...

Not sure how you mixed up the coil plugs as I thought they could only go there, but glad to hear you got it sorted out.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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Re: 91 Z28, New everything, NO SPARK!

yea the coolant temp sensor and the distributor plugs are the same. i think ive done that too at one time or another
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 11:38 PM
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Re: 91 Z28, New everything, NO SPARK!

Btw, just so that there is no confusion, the Coolant Temp Sensor is on the front of the engine. What Alex probably meant was the Intake Air Temp sensor (aka Manifold Air Temp).

Lou
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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Re: 91 Z28, New everything, NO SPARK!

I am having the same trouble "no Spark" on a 88 305 TPI. which we did an engine replacement on. I have replaced the dist and there is power to the coil. the coil check fine in my other car. the connector to the coil has a two part connection which is hard to mess up, but half goes to the air temp sensor under the plenum. Are you saying this air temp sensor does not get connected to the coil along with the dist connection? Where does it connect? That was the only connection I could find that looked right.
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Re: FIXED IT DUH!?

Originally Posted by 91stroker
The plug from the ignition coil was mixed up with a coolant temp sensor under the plenum. I can't believe what i had done! But, the motor had to come back out, the rear thrust bearing was leaving metal in my oil pan and filter, but after 150 miles, that stroker is pretty damn fast! I highly recommend it to you thinking of a 383 conversion! Thanks for the help everyone. Sincerely, Alex
Thank You!

I mixed up the intake temp sensor with distributor. Thast caused my no start spark issue after intake gasket replacement.
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 01:06 AM
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Re: 91 Z28, New everything, NO SPARK!

Hey guys, first time
Posting, just did a head gasket job on my 305tpi with my buddy put everything back together the same Way we took it apart. New ignition coil, distributor with rotor, new plugs
And wires.....and not getting a spark. I've check the distributor and coil with a test light and
Getting power to them but still no spark, all fuses are good, could really use some help, thanks!
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 04:44 PM
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Grab a test light or use a small bulb.

Connect one lead to the coil primary
(the ignition module side not the key side) and the other lead to ground.

Crank the engine.

Does the test light FLASH while cranking?

Be aware of the difference of FLASHING verses PULSATING which will be observed when you have the test light connected to the key side.


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Old May 20, 2014 | 03:53 PM
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Re: 91 Z28, New everything, NO SPARK!

Sorry to bump this thread but I am currently facing the same problem with my LB9.

New distributor with cap, new coil, new plugs (wires coming thursday).

I have power at both wires (pink and grey) at KOEO and the rotor does spin when cranking the engine.

I have a question about NINA,s post and the "coil primary". Is the coil primary the grey wire with the in-line connector or the pink wire?

Thanks
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Old May 29, 2014 | 05:28 PM
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It’s the gray wire.


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Old Apr 15, 2018 | 03:28 PM
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Re: 91 Z28, New everything, NO SPARK!

Originally Posted by ShruikaN
Sorry to bump this thread but I am currently facing the same problem with my LB9.

New distributor with cap, new coil, new plugs (wires coming thursday).

I have power at both wires (pink and grey) at KOEO and the rotor does spin when cranking the engine.

I have a question about NINA,s post and the "coil primary". Is the coil primary the grey wire with the in-line connector or the pink wire?

Thanks
hey did you ever fix this issue??
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Old Jan 31, 2022 | 11:55 PM
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Re: 91 Z28, New everything, NO SPARK!

Anyone figure it out

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