hey guys-
i'm looking @ HID conversion hi/ low kits. they utilize the stock harness to tell the ballast to ignite the bulb. i already have the Painless relay conversion harness and conversion lenses.

here's a link: http://www.xenonlink.com/product_inf...roducts_id=112

my question is this: will the HID bulb shut off when the high beams turn on ans the little halogen will light up or will the HID stay lit when the halogen bulb comes on?

i only ask b/c i know with regular H4 bulbs, the low beam filament shuts off and the high beam filament kicks on when the high beams are switched on.

has anyone had success with HID kits like this? any ideas?

 

The HID will shut off with Hi beams with that setup. You may want to look into what's called a Bi-Xenon kit. Like this http://www.xenonlink.com/product_inf...products_id=86.

You may want to consider 6000K HIDs. IMO, they look much better than 5000K, I've had both.

 

Im sure some will chime in on this... But here is my experience with the type of bulb you are about to use.

I assume you are putting them in regular H4 conversion housings? If so, I can tell you right now you will have issues. The glare they produce is amazing. By the time you aim them low enough so that you arent blinding other drivers, they wont be very useful, and after having an HID low on for awhile, the halogen high will look like a candle.

Also, with them aimed low, the high beam is inadequate.

You MIGHT...MIGHT...get ok results if you go with the "E-Code" housings. Which produce a cut off and direct the light better than a plain jane H4 housing.

I will sound like a broken record and probably bunch up some panties if I keep talking, so Ill just give my HID recipe recomendation. Go with 6000k bulbs, and some decent projectors. REAL projectors. Acura TSX projectors are popular. So are infinity FX35. If you want just low beams, go with the TSX. If you want lo/hi, the FX35s are bi-xenon. There is one bulb for both hi/lo, and a solenoid actuated shield that will produce "high" beams within the projector.

Downside, you need to fit em. But its not the worst project in the world if youre handy. Check out the thread that is going on right now in the "fabrication" forum by 87GTAj. I would link you, but for some reason copy/paste doesnt produce a valid link...

Ok...my .02 cents

J.

 

ghettocruiser- i have the Hella Vision Plus conversion lenses that are e-code but they're DOT approved. the beam pattern is just like the e-code lenses so i don't think there will be much, if any glare. and i don't really have the $$ or time to fab up something.

krisb410-i would get the bi-xenon bulbs, but the look rather long- the firebird's pop-up headlights don't have much room behind the bulb. there's enough room for the headlight plug and not much else.

idk about the 5000k or 6000k. i don't really want that blue look. i want pure white and from what i've read, the 5000k have more light output. can you post any pics?

 

Yeah, I was kinda afraid of that (overall length of the bi-xenon bulb) on Firebirds, it's not an issue in Camaros. The 8000K HIDs are the blueish ones. I had 4300K
(had to find my old post to check) before I got the 6000K. The 4300K was bright white, but still had a little yellow in them. The 6000K is closer to what Merc Benz, BMW, most other factory HIDs are. I could hardly tell the difference in the light output, it's so minor that you would need some sort of light measuring equipment that would tell you there is a difference. I have mine in "E" code housings, great output and I only get flashes from oncoming drivers if I have the car loaded up with passengers and cargo, which hardly ever happens. From experience, get the 6000K, the improvement over the stock headlights is still going to be ten fold, instead of maybe 11 fold on the 5000K.

I only have a crappy cell phone camera, pics are pretty much impossible to see the difference because it's a crappy cell phone camera.

 

Fair enough... Im glad you arent just smacking them into regular housings without atleast giving it some thought. Im actually REALLY curious as to how the HID bulbs look in the e-code housings. So if you go through with it, def post up some pictures.

As for bulb temp. 6000k should give you pretty white light. But I THINK 4100 is the "brightest", most natural light. Its most like sunlight. Anothing above 6000k to me starts to look too bluish. My 6000k's look pure white and quite bright. I prefer the whiter light over the "brighter" lights that lean towards the yellowish look.

Ive seen polls on other threads such as Jags, and Benz and in those polls people ask what temp of bulb people prefer. They are almost always very biased towards 6000k. Thats another reason I chose them.

Im not an HID expert though..especially when it comes to color/temp/shift etc. So Ide still do some research.

J.

P.S. He sorta beat me to it...but we have different info. Also, check out the thread that I referenced, there are some pictures in there for you to check out. You can also go over to hidplanet.com and page through those forums. Lots of pics.

 

thanks for the feedback guys!

i've been doing a lot of research on the HID kits and it seems like the info varies depending on who you ask. i guess it's mostly just opinion. i still don't know what i'm going to do. but, i'll def. post pics whenever i get the HID's

 

I hella E-Codes (H6054/200mm) they fit fine in my 83 daytona 500 trans am

my problem is not the fit. its those blasted defective chinese/asian(communist) made hid bulbs which i all ways get a bad one out of two

Thats why I recomend a german or american made hid Kit

They are not that many sellers that sell them in the U.S.A.

Are there any good german or american ones?