Alternator Wiring Upgrade and a new battery
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Alternator Wiring Upgrade and a new battery
Hello Everyone,
Over the past month or so I've had some serious issues with my electrical system in my car.
I'm running a couple amps (in signature), and nothing too extreme.
I bought a remanufactured alternator from a small one man company on ebay, and it was 140amps. It fit with the stock bracket and all the stock connectors and plugs.
I was told all wiring would work, and then I don't need to upgrade everything.
Well I've had issues the past couple months with my system charging. I can run the car if the battery is charged, but sometimes the Alternator doesn't kick in. I then see my voltage plummet, and my car stall. I've checked all the wiring, and I'm not sure what the issue could be. If the following ideas don't sound a good place to start, let me know.
I plan on taking my alternator in to be tested, but I'm definitely getting a new battery. What's a good brand? (I'll be getting new battery terminal wires anyway I think, as one of mine is stripped).
Also, what wiring should I be upgrading for the bigger alternator? I've heard about the BIg 3, can someone explain what they are, and what size I'd need? Can I buy them for our car specifically?
I do have some limited skill with a soldering iron and wiring stuff, so I could make the cables if location could be provided.
Finally, I've heard sometimes that a wire is run from the positive end of the alternator to the battery directly. What do I need to put in the line? Can anyone provide more details?
Thanks,
Click
Over the past month or so I've had some serious issues with my electrical system in my car.
I'm running a couple amps (in signature), and nothing too extreme.
I bought a remanufactured alternator from a small one man company on ebay, and it was 140amps. It fit with the stock bracket and all the stock connectors and plugs.
I was told all wiring would work, and then I don't need to upgrade everything.
Well I've had issues the past couple months with my system charging. I can run the car if the battery is charged, but sometimes the Alternator doesn't kick in. I then see my voltage plummet, and my car stall. I've checked all the wiring, and I'm not sure what the issue could be. If the following ideas don't sound a good place to start, let me know.
I plan on taking my alternator in to be tested, but I'm definitely getting a new battery. What's a good brand? (I'll be getting new battery terminal wires anyway I think, as one of mine is stripped).
Also, what wiring should I be upgrading for the bigger alternator? I've heard about the BIg 3, can someone explain what they are, and what size I'd need? Can I buy them for our car specifically?
I do have some limited skill with a soldering iron and wiring stuff, so I could make the cables if location could be provided.
Finally, I've heard sometimes that a wire is run from the positive end of the alternator to the battery directly. What do I need to put in the line? Can anyone provide more details?
Thanks,
Click
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Re: Alternator Wiring Upgrade and a new battery
I'd take that alt apart and see how it looks inside. It sounds like one of the brushes isn't making contact all the time.
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Re: Alternator Wiring Upgrade and a new battery
If I take it in to get tested at an auto store is this something their testing will reveal? or if it just happens to make contact that once will they say "works great" and send me on my way?
EDIT: and if i take it apart, is it something visual I'd be able to identify pretty easily? I've never taken one apart before.
EDIT: and if i take it apart, is it something visual I'd be able to identify pretty easily? I've never taken one apart before.
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Re: Alternator Wiring Upgrade and a new battery
If I take it in to get tested at an auto store is this something their testing will reveal? or if it just happens to make contact that once will they say "works great" and send me on my way?
EDIT: and if i take it apart, is it something visual I'd be able to identify pretty easily? I've never taken one apart before.
EDIT: and if i take it apart, is it something visual I'd be able to identify pretty easily? I've never taken one apart before.
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Re: Alternator Wiring Upgrade and a new battery
You can have it tested. There's no way to predict the outcome. It could also be a bad connection. I assume the connector is tight and the contacts are clean? Being "rebuilt" makes it suspicious. It usually means someone took a quick look at it, fixed the obvious, and then made it look good.
If i pull it apart and take pictures would the damage be evident if the brushes aren't making contact all the time?
EDIT: and thank you so much for the quick response and help.
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Re: Alternator Wiring Upgrade and a new battery
I got my battery and Alt tested.
Both are dead -_-.
I plan on getting the CS130 (built up CS130 for 140 amps) replaced, but is the optima battery worth it? Or is the stock titanimum worth it?
Also, Should I use amp power wire for my big three upgrade? What type of amp should i use for a 140 amp alternator.
Both are dead -_-.
I plan on getting the CS130 (built up CS130 for 140 amps) replaced, but is the optima battery worth it? Or is the stock titanimum worth it?
Also, Should I use amp power wire for my big three upgrade? What type of amp should i use for a 140 amp alternator.
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Re: Alternator Wiring Upgrade and a new battery
ok so your going to do the big 3 upgrade i did this in my cavalier its easy you go online or to a local audio shop your going to want enough 4 gauge wire to go from alternator to batterie and if your using a 140 amp alternator then use a 150 amp anl fuse and youll need an anl fuse holder to.then run a 4 gauge wire off of negative terminal of battery to the chasis and a 4 gauge wire off of alternator bracket to the chasis put up your email ill see if i can find pics of it done in my cavalier if so ill email them to you.
here this is the website i ordered my stuff from love them http://www.knukonceptz.com/index.cfm
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Re: Alternator Wiring Upgrade and a new battery
The thing I was wondering, is it says that 4gage wire is only good for up to 120 amps. But if i leave the old wiring it'll be the 4gage +stock and should be fine, right?
Also, the main thing that I'm having issues with is how to get them to connect to the terminals on the battery. It has the screw in terminals, and I'm not sure how I'd go about adding in wires (because typical connects don't seem to work). Do they make some that do?
And is there a different battery I should be getting?
I know I 've seen traditional setups with adaptors for the stock terminals.
email is austinjsting<at>gmail.com
Also, the main thing that I'm having issues with is how to get them to connect to the terminals on the battery. It has the screw in terminals, and I'm not sure how I'd go about adding in wires (because typical connects don't seem to work). Do they make some that do?
And is there a different battery I should be getting?
I know I 've seen traditional setups with adaptors for the stock terminals.
email is austinjsting<at>gmail.com
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Re: Alternator Wiring Upgrade and a new battery
new battery get a optima red top with both top and side posts bout 160 bucks but worth it trust me and if you go into advance auto and go to the battery section youll see gold side post adapters for gms. you pop yours out of the rubber on the wire and put those in and theres a post with a nut you can add wires to. and 4 gauge wire may only hold that idk cause my cavalier alternator was only 105 amps so i used a 110 fuse but its rated at that because it heats up and if your worried you could run a 0/1 gauge wire with the fuse instead.and the 4 gauge stock wire should be ok with a higher alternator but im not sure.
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Re: Alternator Wiring Upgrade and a new battery
are the red optima tops really worth it? I'm just a kid and on a limited budget. What makes them better?
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Re: Alternator Wiring Upgrade and a new battery
http://www.optimabatteries.com/home.php
The Good !!!
These Battery's are Tough and can handle a load of draw
mount in any position and don't leak
At my collage where I work a standard battery can handle a couple hundred amp draw for about two minutes before they start to fall off
Optima batteries can take MAX LOAD ON THE tester until they are drained !!!
I have broken Snap -on Battery load test equipment trying to show this
The BAD
these batteries do not like to go completely dead a standard battery charger will not be able to recover a completely dead optima battery - worse using a regular charger could damage the battery ONLY IF COMPLETELY DRAINED or real weak ..
THE UGLY
These Batteries are not cheap but if you upgrade to one and keep it properly charged I guarantee you will never look back !!!
My two cents
The Good !!!

These Battery's are Tough and can handle a load of draw
mount in any position and don't leak
At my collage where I work a standard battery can handle a couple hundred amp draw for about two minutes before they start to fall off
Optima batteries can take MAX LOAD ON THE tester until they are drained !!!
I have broken Snap -on Battery load test equipment trying to show this
The BAD

these batteries do not like to go completely dead a standard battery charger will not be able to recover a completely dead optima battery - worse using a regular charger could damage the battery ONLY IF COMPLETELY DRAINED or real weak ..
THE UGLY

These Batteries are not cheap but if you upgrade to one and keep it properly charged I guarantee you will never look back !!!
My two cents
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Re: Alternator Wiring Upgrade and a new battery
well unfortunately, I already got my new battery and finally got my alternator back (After a week+ I call the guy and ask if he'd sent it, and he said he'd look at it on the next monday...).
I just strengthed and tightened all my grounds to begin with as well, and then installed the new parts. Haven't had time for the big 3 yet (SCHOOL IS CRAZY!)
Thanks for the help though.
I ended up going with the walmart brand, as odd as that sounds. I looked up on consumer reports and they were the best value and one of the top performers. Only put me back about $75.
I just strengthed and tightened all my grounds to begin with as well, and then installed the new parts. Haven't had time for the big 3 yet (SCHOOL IS CRAZY!)
Thanks for the help though.
I ended up going with the walmart brand, as odd as that sounds. I looked up on consumer reports and they were the best value and one of the top performers. Only put me back about $75.
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Re: Alternator Wiring Upgrade and a new battery
ok so your going to do the big 3 upgrade i did this in my cavalier its easy you go online or to a local audio shop your going to want enough 4 gauge wire to go from alternator to batterie and if your using a 140 amp alternator then use a 150 amp anl fuse and youll need an anl fuse holder to.then run a 4 gauge wire off of negative terminal of battery to the chasis and a 4 gauge wire off of alternator bracket to the chasis put up your email ill see if i can find pics of it done in my cavalier if so ill email them to you.
here this is the website i ordered my stuff from love them http://www.knukonceptz.com/index.cfm
here this is the website i ordered my stuff from love them http://www.knukonceptz.com/index.cfm
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