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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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Car: 85 Camaro IROC
Engine: 5.7 TPI
Transmission: 700-R4
Axle/Gears: open rear, 3.42 gears
im basically screwed i think

i parked my car and went to work this morning, but i left the lights on and i come back to find a completely discharged battery

i get someone to jump me, and after 30 minutes of charging it, it cranks and goes.

i turn the idle up to 1400 rpms, and let it sit for a while, then go to the bank.
against my better judgment, i turn the car off and go inside.
when i come out, not only wont the car start, but i get NOTHING.
no lights inside, no clicks, nothing.

a guy gives me a jump but still no lights or anything.

turns out after some frantic calls that my fusible link is bad.
problem is, i dont have a fusible link.
the wire has been ghetto rigged (by the previous owner) so that its just a straight wire with a few connections for things like the fan relay and other stuff in between.

i try getting jumper cables from the positive of another battery to the post on my alternator, and sparks fly and it cranks, but its a no go.
my thinking is that i somehow managed to **** up a literally brand new optima red top, blow a few wires, and seriously ruin my day, all at once.
can anyone think how to fix this?
im a wiring noob.




oh, its parked near lynnhaven mall if anyone is local and wants to lend a helping hand.
ill pay cash on the spot for any help.
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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Car: 91Z28
Engine: 305
Transmission: WC T-5
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt Posi, 3.08
Re: im basically screwed i think

Ok, so does anything other than the starter work? Can you crank the car via the key? Do the headlights work? Do you have a volt meter? And why would you try to put 12v to your alt?
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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Car: 85 Camaro IROC
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Transmission: 700-R4
Axle/Gears: open rear, 3.42 gears
Re: im basically screwed i think

nothing works at all unless there is a direct connection from the battery to the alternator.
this is because something about a fusible link that connects the starter (and the rest of the cars electrical system) to the battery.
im not sure exactly, but i called my uncle and he told me to try that.
if it cranked, then i needed a new cable, but the problem is the cable isnt like it is supposed to be.
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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Engine: 305
Transmission: 700r4
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Re: im basically screwed i think

here is a place where they talk about using a fuse instead of fusable link. http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/electrical-links.html. and here is a 3rd gen discussion about it too. https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...nks-fuses.html.
and here is another one http://camaroforums.com/forum/archiv...p/t-20782.html.
you have no problems. just get the wiring chart - find where the links are located and put them back, or if you need to - use a fuse.
the one article i gave you is for a chrysler but i understand it applies.
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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From: Norfolk VA
Car: 85 Camaro IROC
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Transmission: 700-R4
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Re: im basically screwed i think

my problem is that all the wires that are supposed to be there, ARENT.
nothing is correct.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 05:18 AM
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Re: im basically screwed i think

Have you checked your main batery ground? Start there. Then go here: http://www.austinthirdgen.org/index.php?pid=19 and start tracing wires. This will be a lot easier if you beg, borrow, steal a volt meter. It is bound to be something simple. can you post pictures of the junction that used to be the fuseable link?
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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From: Norfolk VA
Car: 85 Camaro IROC
Engine: 5.7 TPI
Transmission: 700-R4
Axle/Gears: open rear, 3.42 gears
Re: im basically screwed i think

im at home and the car is at the mall so no lol.
but you know the wire connectors that have crimps on one end and o rings on the other?
its a bunch of them with a bolt running through the middle.

yeah, bad. i know.

off the top of my head it has small wires going to:
fan relay hot +
battery +
alternator post +

then there is a wire going to a 25 IIRC amp fuse, which then goes into a harness and gets lost.
i think thats it.












i have another car, its a V6 chevy caprice, but all the parts like alternators and batteries should swap over (it uses a v8 water pump) so i am thinking about driving down there and swapping whatever i have to to get the camaro running.
if i am going to leave a car sitting i would much rather it be the caprice.
ya kno?

anyway, i printed off some wiring diagrams, but i need some help.
based on what i have said, that i get power when i connect the battery + to the back of the alt, is that all i need to do to get the car running if i have a good battery?

Last edited by RED_DRAGON_85; Apr 4, 2009 at 08:01 AM.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 08:19 AM
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Car: Firebird
Engine: 2.8 v/6
Transmission: t/5
Axle/Gears: open/3.42
Re: im basically screwed i think

Check your connections where the wires are bolted together to make sure you have a good connection if all is good there check your fuse going into the harness you should be able to get her going if all is ok .
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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Car: 85 Camaro IROC
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Transmission: 700-R4
Axle/Gears: open rear, 3.42 gears
Re: im basically screwed i think

well i fingered it out
a wire melted.
that was it.
lol

my junk-tion touched metal and that killed everything.
ill post b4 and after pics i guess
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 10:55 AM
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Re: im basically screwed i think

Im glad it was something simple! Now the fun part of puting it right.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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Re: im basically screwed i think

Originally Posted by groundrat
Im glad it was something simple! Now the fun part of puting it right.
I agree I'm also glad you got it now to the fixing .
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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From: Norfolk VA
Car: 85 Camaro IROC
Engine: 5.7 TPI
Transmission: 700-R4
Axle/Gears: open rear, 3.42 gears
Re: im basically screwed i think

i dont have a before anything broke pic, but it wasnt too far off from the pic where i rigged it to work

here is the rigged version



and the pretty version


im going to cover it with silicone once i get a fusible link between the alt and the block, but for now its good
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