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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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ELECTRICAL SHORT

I have seen a couple of posts addressing similar probems, but mine has some very distinct differences.

PROB:
My guages act funny when I apply the brake or turn suignals, but ONLY when in gear. But, only when I initially press the brake pedal. When "inching" up at a stop light, the power is fine. When the steering wheel is turned far left, the power charges great, but only when hard left. I know it wasn't the column, I pulled it and totally disassembeled it.

PLAN:
I am going to pull the gauges today to look at the ribbon circuit.

After that I am clueless. I know it is not under the hood, so that helps, but there is a lot of wiring in this car.

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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 09:47 AM
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Re: ELECTRICAL SHORT

well, whats the problem? with NO info on anything, other than you having an electrical short, nobody can help.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:02 AM
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Re: ELECTRICAL SHORT

Gauges act funny. Temp goes up when brakes not pressed, but down (to normal level) when they are. The blower switch also affects the temp gauge. each notch on the switch makes increase for the temp gauge. Volt gauge is pegged bottom, but car starts and runs fine. Tach pegged top as well.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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Re: ELECTRICAL SHORT

Not a "short". A "short", short for "short circuit", is when 2 things that aren't supposed to be connected together, are. This is the type of failure that blows fuses for example. You don't have that. You have the OPPOSITE problem to a "short": 2 things that ARE supposed to be connected together, AREN'T. I supples you could call that a "long"??

Sounds like the ground wire that grounds the gauge cluster, is broken. It has a ring terminal on the end and IIRC goes under a bolt near the column. Not impossible that the bolt is just loose.

Definitely a problem with a faulty ground connection somewhere though.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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Re: ELECTRICAL SHORT

where is the ground bolt? and what is IIRC?
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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Re: ELECTRICAL SHORT

If I Remember or Recall Correctly
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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Re: ELECTRICAL SHORT

The bolt in question is just some one of the ones around the column area. Pop the column out and look around up above it, since it only takes like 10 minutes to change out a column in one of these cars, that'd be AHELLUVALOT easier than trying to fight your way around it.

If I recall correctly, IIRC stands for "If I Recall Correctly".
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:50 AM
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Re: ELECTRICAL SHORT

GOT IT. I found one ring terminal just to the left and above the column. Where would the other grounds be? do I need to remove the gauge cluster to check them?
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:51 AM
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Re: ELECTRICAL SHORT

I do know that it is a ground problem. I need to check the dash grounds, but don't know where they are.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 04:25 PM
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Re: ELECTRICAL SHORT

NE1?
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