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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 09:13 PM
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got a new camaro, no key for the VATS

i just got a new camaro and there is no key because the guy that owned it before me got caught for being and illegal immigrant and took his key to mexico lol so how do i disable the VATS system? i dont even know if it runs but it looks great and its white and for $200 i had to buy it
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 09:21 PM
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Re: got a new camaro, no key for the VATS

what engine if its a 305 tbi i used a caprice computer and it bypassed the vats
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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Re: got a new camaro, no key for the VATS

yeah it is, so the capris dont have vats?
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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Re: got a new camaro, no key for the VATS

anyone else have any ideas?
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 07:14 PM
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Re: got a new camaro, no key for the VATS

You can do the normal VATS resistor thing, and test each of the 15 possibilities until you get the right one - the resistors are about $1 at Radio Shack, and your time.

Or, you can get a VATS bypass module fromebay, Painless, etc. for about $50, and wire it in per instructions.

www.thirdgen.org/vats https://www.thirdgen.org/vats_passkey_system
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 04:58 PM
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Re: got a new camaro, no key for the VATS

soo, i just went and got the computer from a craprice 305 TBI car and it didnt work, the caprice didnt have VATS so idk whats wrong, i did this route cause idk what the resistance of my key is and i dont want to go through all the 15 options with the resistors, but when i hooked the computer up, the security light still came on, but no crank, its like VATS is still stopping it but that cant be can it? cause i changed the computer, this is making me go crazy, i need all the help i can get
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 05:22 PM
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Re: got a new camaro, no key for the VATS

and the number on each are:
the original: SERV. NO. 1228746 ANTT
86ANTT K192580878

16127501 ANTT

the numbers under the bar code are: 86ANTTK192580878

the Caprice computer: SERV. NO. 1228746 APFN
86APFN K192432073

16130381 APFN
the numbers under the bar code are:86APFNK192432073
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 09:24 PM
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Re: got a new camaro, no key for the VATS

ok so i changed the PROMs around in the computers and still nothing, the first time i turned the ignition on, the security light didnt come on, but then i turned it off and back on and then the security light came on
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 10:31 PM
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Re: got a new camaro, no key for the VATS

The VATS module is independent of the ECM, so there is no way the Caprice would have worked in your car. He was giving you bad advice. I bet his VATS was already resistor bypassed & he doesn't even know it. And that is why it would have worked on his cars.

All you can do now is start assembling the 15 different resistor values one by one (hopefully yours will be one of the very first values) for the cheap bypass mod, or buy the more expensive bypass module mentioned above. If you had the key, you could measure it & duplicate the value using resistors.

Do the resistor bypass method. You won't regret it.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:17 PM
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Re: got a new camaro, no key for the VATS

awesome thanks, when i start putting resistors in, how long do i wait between each one?
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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Re: got a new camaro, no key for the VATS

RC, it is 2 min between each try before the Module resets & can be tried again. Don't wait long enough & it won't have reset itself & you'll still be in the "not correct" cycle & the 2nd one you try can't work, even though it might have been correct.
http://www.austinthirdgen.org/index.php?pid=10
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:27 PM
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Re: got a new camaro, no key for the VATS

Oh....The chart in the link I gave you shows direct resistors that will work by using only 1 resistor. You can always just buy an assortment at Radio Shack & daisy chain them to get the value you need.
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