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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 07:15 PM
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vats help info

During my day of searching to find out how to get my car to start I tried the resister nothing was working vats box fried. So I finally I tried an ecm from a not vats vehicle jumped the starter relay and sure enough fired right up. So a simple solution jump the starter relay and plug in a non vats ecu its a temporary fix if Ur broke I wouldn't recommend doing it for long as anyone can steal your car
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 11:22 PM
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Re: vats help info

Not unless you are able to throw in under the dash a on/off switch*...I nkow of few guys who did this to get by!
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 12:52 AM
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Re: vats help info

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So a simple solution jump the starter relay and plug in a non vats ecu
You only need the memcal ( chip ) from inside the ECM ; not the whole ECM
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 01:40 AM
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What's a memcal chip sorry new to electronics
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 02:22 AM
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Re: vats help info

Originally Posted by blue90z28
What's a memcal
The chip inside the computer (ECM )
One computer may be used for many different cars ; only the info (tune ) on the memcal inside changes to suit whatever car the computer is in

Memcal = the blue thing in pic below


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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 02:25 AM
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Re: vats help info

So I can swap that from my non vats ecm to my vats ecm and it will run
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 10:51 AM
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Re: vats help info

The programing is not in the ecm, but in the memcal The blue calibration chip.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 01:48 PM
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I don't have that maybe cause I have tbi
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 01:56 PM
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Re: vats help info

TBI uses two separate chips, a PROM or EPROM in a black plastic carrier and a smaller NETRES in a similar black plastic carrier. Some TBI ECMS do not have a removable NETRES, and will only have the PROM or EPROM in a black plastic carrier.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 02:04 PM
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Re: vats help info

The letters on the prom will still be helpful identifying your problem just. Verify you have vats enabled on the prom. But since you have the code 46 showing I'm sure thats what's cutting your injector pulse.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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Any pics of it
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 04:42 PM
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 06:54 PM
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Still ran the same after switching it
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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Re: vats help info

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Still ran the same after switching it
I THOUGHT YOU HAD A NO START CONDITION ?
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 07:07 PM
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Re: vats help info

Ya thats in the ecu I switched the black chip into it from 305 still runs like 350 chip
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 07:26 PM
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Re: vats help info

Originally Posted by blue90z28
Ya thats in the ecu I switched the black chip into it from 305 still runs like 350 chip
Not bad you added 45 CID with a prom swap.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 07:49 PM
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No meant it gets to much gas 350 tune
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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Re: vats help info

are you sure your using the correct prom in the 1227746 ecm ? is the mill blinking fast ? Any history you can shed on this ? you went from a vats question to running rich Like lhm or leaking injectors are or bad cts.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 08:02 PM
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Re: vats help info

It was fine before ecm swap n yeah mill was blinking fast
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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Re: vats help info

sounds like you are in lhm with the wrong ecm. can you read the letters off the prom in that ecm
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 08:11 PM
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Top is black no numbers
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 09:52 PM
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Sounds like the wrong ecm dome thing from 85 or maybe 86 . The realy proms were otp and had 3 to 4 letter typed real small on the prom.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 11:03 PM
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Re: vats help info

Lol its out of a 93 3500 4x4 all I had what would I need to get to make my car run how it did before an ecm that has to enable fuel via vats is out of the question they messed that up when they tried to steal car
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 11:23 PM
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Re: vats help info

Have the vats programed out of a prom or install a modulator.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-VATS-or-PASSkey-II-Bypass-Module-For-LS1-and-LT1-/281064956739?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4170c6e343&vxp=mtr
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 11:32 PM
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Re: vats help info

Alright thanks I'm gonna get it tuned out 9mpg sucks
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