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Old Jun 30, 2014 | 12:25 PM
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gauge cluster! Help!

I have a 91 z28 5.7

I'm currently doing a restoration, and now I'm at the gauge cluster.

To be short...Speed/tachometer doesn't work, fuel goes from 1/2 to full only and not below 1/2 tank. The RPM is everywhere, even when running straight and the oil gauge shows 0 even with new oil/no leaks.


Question, what is the best way to fix this? Change entire cluster?....clusters are really high, I can get a nice deal on 88 iroc z cluster...would this work? What should I do, to get this working the most cost efficient way...I would rather put money in other places on the car....
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Old Jun 30, 2014 | 08:06 PM
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Re: gauge cluster! Help!

Originally Posted by 91zswhitt
I have a 91 z28 5.7

I'm currently doing a restoration, and now I'm at the gauge cluster.

To be short...Speed/tachometer doesn't work, fuel goes from 1/2 to full only and not below 1/2 tank. The RPM is everywhere, even when running straight and the oil gauge shows 0 even with new oil/no leaks.


Question, what is the best way to fix this? Change entire cluster?....clusters are really high, I can get a nice deal on 88 iroc z cluster...would this work? What should I do, to get this working the most cost efficient way...I would rather put money in other places on the car....
hit up bruce at hawks third gen .used clusters are going for $150
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Old Jun 30, 2014 | 10:13 PM
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Re: gauge cluster! Help!

Originally Posted by rusty vango
hit up bruce at hawks third gen .used clusters are going for $150
or go to your local salvage yard and pick one up for 30 bucks
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Old Jun 30, 2014 | 10:41 PM
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Re: gauge cluster! Help!

Make sure all your grounds are good. Maybe you have dirty, or corroded connections.
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Old Jun 30, 2014 | 11:05 PM
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Re: gauge cluster! Help!

Originally Posted by 90camaro355rs
or go to your local salvage yard and pick one up for 30 bucks
many people do not have access to a parts yard. or they all are full of hyundais and Priuses. for those people,hawks et al are their only hope
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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 10:51 AM
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Here’s how to test the fuel gage.

Remove the sender wire going to the gage.

Tape the bare end of the sender wire and put it aside.

Use a potentiometer with a value of 100Ω or the closest you can find.

Connect one end the potentiometer to the gage from the location you removed the sender.

Connect the wiper of the potentiometer to ground.

Turn the key to RUN.

Slowly adjust the potentiometer from 0Ω to 90Ω.

If the gage is bad it will exhibit the problem you have.

If the gage is good it will display a smooth transition from one end of it’s range to the other.

Therefore the problem is with the sender or wiring going to it.

You can use a loose potentiometer, or you can throw together a quick little panel like this one.

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Originally Posted by 91zswhitt
The RPM is everywhere
There is circuitry in the dash near the tach.

It’s contained on a small plug-in PCB or integrated in the main board.

On or near the PCB you’ll see a capacitor, replace it.

Also on the PCB you’ll see a resistor chip.

Desolder pins 4 & 10.

Use a 500K potentiometer.

Solder it across traces 4 & 10.

Move the potentiometer to half way.

Start the engine and compare the tach reading with a test equipment quality tach.

Dial it in, unsolder the potentiometer, measure it and install a matching resistor.



SPEEDOMETER:

Gain access to the buffer which looks like this:

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It’s located behind the instrument panel at the right.

Connect an audio amplifier to terminal A
yellow wire to make sure it’s getting a steady signal.

Ground to ground, the signal wire to terminal A
yellow wire of the VSS.

With the car on jackstands listed for a hum from the amplifier when the rear wheels are rotating.

If you do, then find out if you get a hum from terminal C
tan wire.

The
tan wire then goes to the speedometer unit.

If it gets to the speedometer but the speedometer does not work, have it repaired or replace the unit.


Happy Racing !



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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 09:04 PM
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Re: gauge cluster! Help!

Will the total cluster out of a v6 work in a v8 all being out of a 1991
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Old Aug 15, 2014 | 12:06 PM
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Re: gauge cluster! Help!

Originally Posted by brianw123
Will the total cluster out of a v6 work in a v8 all being out of a 1991
It should work fine except the tach will read differant in which case see above.
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