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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 09:17 PM
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Just bought an '86 Camaro Sport Coupe... having some gauge issues.

Heyo everyone! Just bought a 1986 Camaro today, and it's a real pleasure to drive around, even with the weaker v6 in it. However, I havent been able to get readings from the three middle gauges for oil pressure, water temps,and battery level. When the car is in position 3(right before the position to actually start the motor) the battery gauge comes on, and they seem to be electronic gauges, but its just solid red with a battery icon on it. Feeling real confused about if they're broken or if I'm doing something wrong. Any help is appreciated, thanks!
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 11:30 PM
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Re: Just bought an '86 Camaro Sport Coupe... having some gauge issues.

Sounds like you've got a 'dummy light' cluster. A "gauges" cluster should have 3 needle type gauges in the center of the cluster; 1 for Volts, 1 for Fuel, and 1 for Oil Pressure.



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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 11:31 PM
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I see. Any idea why somebody would set it up like that? I've never heard of a cluster that doesnt actually give readings before \
EDIT: it's the cluster with no tachometer and speedo that goes to 85mph if that makes any difference, when i look up clusters for my model year i see a few like mine and others with a higher speedo and a tach.

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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 01:19 AM
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Re: Just bought an '86 Camaro Sport Coupe... having some gauge issues.

Originally Posted by ozwin
I see. Any idea why somebody would set it up like that? I've never heard of a cluster that doesnt actually give readings before \
EDIT: it's the cluster with no tachometer and speedo that goes to 85mph if that makes any difference, when i look up clusters for my model year i see a few like mine and others with a higher speedo and a tach.

I think you would need to talk to Chevy. I agree it's a really crappy setup, but not uncommon even today to only have "idiot lights" for critical engine parameters.
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Old Mar 4, 2019 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ozwin
I've never heard of a cluster that doesnt actually give readings
It’s Worldwide common knowledge many vehicles had only indicator lights instead of gages.

The problem persists as many new vehicles and their ridiculous “infotainment” displays still fail to have gages OR indicator lights.

We recommend you obtain a gage cluster from your friendly local salvage yard, or obtain a new cluster available from aftermarket manufacturers.

You can have the choice of analogue, digital, or top of the line digital that tries to look like analogue.



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Old Mar 21, 2019 | 10:07 PM
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Re: Just bought an '86 Camaro Sport Coupe... having some gauge issues.

Originally Posted by ozwin
Heyo everyone! Just bought a 1986 Camaro today, and it's a real pleasure to drive around, even with the weaker v6 in it. However, I havent been able to get readings from the three middle gauges for oil pressure, water temps,and battery level. When the car is in position 3(right before the position to actually start the motor) the battery gauge comes on, and they seem to be electronic gauges, but its just solid red with a battery icon on it. Feeling real confused about if they're broken or if I'm doing something wrong. Any help is appreciated, thanks!
I have a question about gauges as well! 1987 iroc, had to.replace the column, and put a m/t column out of an 86 bird! My volt and temp.gauges arent working. No power to alt plug under hood! Any help or advice any one could offer would be greatly appreciated 1,000times over! This issue is driving me Insane! TIA for help
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Old Mar 22, 2019 | 03:24 PM
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Re: Just bought an '86 Camaro Sport Coupe... having some gauge issues.

Swapping the column should have no effect on the gauges. My guess is that those 2 things ( column swap & gauge problems ) are not related. I guess it's possible that teh cluster was moved when the column was installed and it might not be fully set on the cluster plugs. If the cluster was moved around when the column was installed than it's also possible that the cluster printed circuit has separated or has broken traces. ( VERY common on old clusters. )



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Old Mar 22, 2019 | 03:32 PM
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Re: Just bought an '86 Camaro Sport Coupe... having some gauge issues.

Originally Posted by John in RI
Swapping the column should have no effect on the gauges. My guess is that those 2 things ( column swap & gauge problems ) are not related. I guess it's possible that teh cluster was moved when the column was installed and it might not be fully set on the cluster plugs. If the cluster was moved around when the column was installed than it's also possible that the cluster printed circuit has separated or has broken traces. ( VERY common on old clusters. )

would the electrical part of the ignition switch have an effect on anything!
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Old Apr 1, 2019 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bholmes
No power to alt plug

Find out if the alternator wiring has the correct connections.

The heavier
red wire goes from a Fusible Link, to the positive stud, and should have power at all times.

The
thinner red wire goes from a different Fusible Link, to terminal S (the sensing circuit) and should have power at all times.

The
brown wire goes to terminal F (the turn-on input) from the FAN fuse, and should have power when the key is in the RUN position.


Originally Posted by bholmes
would the electrical part of the ignition switch have an effect on anything
No.
If the iggy sw. activates anything, it means it’s OK.

But you might have a problem at the back of the dash where the connectors go in to.

The voltmeter and temp gage use the same ground line.

Look for a broken ground wire (
black wire).

The other possibility is a damaged voltage line inside the cluster.


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