My cousins mom (aside having a Tranny I want) has a 350 Cummings Powerstroke V8 Engine with an Edelbrock Carb. Engine only has 12K miles and sounds/runs great. I have 2 questions:

1. Would I be able to put my CFI on the 350 and obid by California Law?

2. If #1 isn't possible, would I be able to put the 350 in and keep the Edelbrock Carb and still obid by California Law?

Hopefully there are some Thirdgen's that have done this before, need all the help I can get.

Thanks!

 

huh?

That must be the one from the new Mondo Crewcab 1 ton VW pick up.

 

Let's see here, 350 = Chevy engine, Cummins = diesel engine manufacturer, Powerstroke = Ford's 7.3L V8 diesel. The cummins diesel that was put in dodge (sorry) trucks was a 6 cylinder. I think you're a little confused here. Recheck your info and post back up here. I'm guessing you're talking about just a 350.

 

One correction and one addition.

The Cummins 6 banger went into Dodge trucks and there are no carb'd diesels.

I'm afraid to know what the trans he wants from her is...

 

Thanks for the correction, I forgot about that.

 

The Powerstroke isn't made by Ford. It's a Navistar (International) 444E V8 engine. Even the pre-powerstroke's were 7.3L Navistar engines.

The Cummins inline 6 in the Dodge is a 5.9L

No diesel is "carbed"

 

I'm not sure, the seller told me it was a 350 Powerstroke V8 from a 74-78 El Camino. When I heard Cummings, I thought Diesel, but I didn't know much about them, thinking they made an unleaded Engine that I didn't know about.

I talked to some guys on the chat room and they concluded that I couldn't put the Engine in and still obid by California Law.

Oh well, can't win 'em all.

 

Oops, forgot that navistar makes them.

 

There's no "Powerstroke" V8 in those. They came with the same crappy 350 4-barrel as everything else in those years; 8½"1 compression, dish pistons, 882 casting heads, 929 cam, pitiful exhaust. Cummins (not "Cummings") has nothing to do with it. It is BS.

I see no reason why you couldn't put it in there, and as long as it (a) blows the right numbers on the dyno, and (b) has every emissions device for your car installed and hooked up correctly, it will probably sail right on through. Of course, however much power it has now, it will have substantially less with CFI on it; better low-end torque, but even less high-RPM capability than you have now.

I just moved from So Cal BTW... went through some of the same issues.

 

You might be thinging of the GM diesel that was based on the Olds block. Both the 6.2L and 6.5L GM engines are garbage diesel engines. If a head cracks, and most of them are, it's cheaper to just buy a new engine.

 

Cummins northwest sold a rebuilt 350 short or long block Chevy. Were known to be good engines.

 

hmm, any one ever put a diesel in a 3rd gen? i mean, couldn't you gear it right thru the trans to make it hall a$$, or am i smoking to strong a stuff tonight?

 

Your smokin stuff tonight.....

 

Diesel is a constant LOW rpm type of engine. They may have high horsepower and torque, but they are best suited to constant (at much lower rpm than standard gasoline engines) rpm operation, not running the drag strip. Not to mention they won't bolt to your 6-speed tranny.

You're smoking something big. Take another drag and go find a spark plug on a diesel engine!

 

THIS ENTIRE THREAD= :sillylol:

 

ok, i give up... where are the plugs? i spent 2 1/2 hours after work today crawling around diesels in the junk yards, i tryed asking one of the guys that worked there and he just ignored me...

 

lmao.. :sillylol:

 

Some of the old 2 stroke Detroit Diesels had "A" spark plug. It was used as an airbox heater.

 

now it all comes together

 

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

same as he said rotflmao

 

This being my first time to post on this board I just have to say that this whole thread is FUBAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lala:

 

welcome to the board CamDriver!
and guys, i'm still looking at trying to put a diesel in my Camaro if i ever get this to work i'll probibly be the only guy to have a diesel camaro with 16 gears, lol

 

Thanks for the welcome! but... but... but ...Why on earth would you want to put a diesel in a Camaro? I know its been stated several times before that diesels are made for low end tourque and low rpm applications which is really just the opposite of what the Camaro was designed for.

 

yes thats right, but i've got this idea that if i can gear it right with the rear end and the trans (with gears that would bog down and stall most cars) i could muscle thru it with the massive tourque that the diesels make, and as for the why part, i'd just love to see the look on their face after i smoke 'em with a diesel!
and to be completly different

 

Hmmmmm I've got one word for you Its spanish..... LOCO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

hmm, well is their anyone that thinks my plan has at least half a chance in hell?

 

Were just tryin to be realistic, I dont know of many diesels that can take the punishment your gonna try to dish out!

 

i figured i'd try seeing what Caterpillar, MTU and Detroit Diesel have, want to find out what kinda V8s they have and what kinda trans. would go behind those things

 

What you want is a 3408 V-8 CAT with a Eaton RTX18718 trans, use spicer U-joints and an Eaton DS404 rear end with tall gears.

 

Man, this is some funny ****. Hey Mike, I'm thinking about a Holley for my Powerstroke.
But hey, it is turboed and does have 17.5 to 1 compression

 

Remember, if you go with the holley carb on the boosted ford your going to have to change knock sensors too....

 

Yeah, thanks, good tip.

 

oh i know how to make a diesel haul ****.

if you could get your hands on a continually variable transmission. you would then take your diesel throttle it up to its peak torque, and then use the transmission to accelerate.

now if only they made those.

someday dude someday

 

Theyres an article somewhere about a 16 wheeler tractor trailer (without the trailer) and a few diesel engines out back tryin for a land speed record. I see no reason not to try if you got the incredible quantity of cash and time to try it. I'll see if i can find that article.
matt

 

AHAHAHA. I found it. In the April 99 issue of hotrod, in the back under readers rides, it reads: "What has a 1472ci V-16, four Allied-Signal turbochargers, two supechargers, makes 3,800 hp at 3,700 rpm, goes 220 mph, and runs on diesel?...the 1990 Barn Door Conventional, aka Joint Venture...A five speed Allison automatic, 3.07 gears, and aircraft wheels and tires complete this Bonneville-bound class record-holding hauler."
So yeah, go ahead an put that motor in a camaro, see what it does. And put that in your pipe and smoke it you naysayers. :rockon:
heheheheh matt

 

I think what you want is a Cat 3406 with a HT740 alison and 2.93 gears. That combo pushed our 15,000lb Kenworth to 17.5 @ 82mph at the E-Town Diesel Nationals. We won the AAA class. With more fuel, taller tires, and some fiddling with the shift points I think we can squeeze a 15.50 out of it.

 

I know with propane and a computer, there is someone out there getting their Duramax to a 14 flat. Love those trucks.

SB

 

No, he really wants a CAT 3408... Why run an inline 6 when you can have a V-8

 

Well Hell, if you go with a 3408, why not stretch the frame a bit and put a 3412 in?

Eric

Caterpillar Marine tech, MAN marine tech, if it ain't got a propeller or a generator on it and it's not in a boat, don't call us!

And my service truck has a real Powerstroke in it, and I still can't figure out how to change the points

 

Im just not going to dignify this with a response.....Desiel in a camaro.....

 

eh, I'm not sure about pre-'78, but chevy/gmc did put 350 diesels into el camino's in 82,83,84, they were lt6 (6 cyl) and LF9 (350 v8's) producing a max of 125hp. I just figured I'd throw that in....cuz that may be what he's got...

 

I can't believe that this thread is still active.

How many times does it have to be said: diesel is the WRONG platform for racing. Racing in a diesel is equivalent to racing Hondas.

 

Hell im sad to say id rather race ah onda than a desial at least the honda dosnt have a 3 grand redline

 

You will never shoot down my dreams of a diesel camaro! Have you ever seen the diesel powered trucks that run in the Baja races? Hmmm, I dunno about you but they seem pretty damn fast to me, with out being geared to much for acceleration either... As for racing hondas well, nevermind about that... Right now I'm looking at a CAT C-12 it makes 370 max hp and 1350 peak torque, you see.. I'm figuring I can use the torque to power thru gears that would stall most cars to get the acceleration I want out of it. So for all you nay sayers, put that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

Do you have any idea what a Cat C-12 weighs? I didn't think so.

I'll believe it's possible to get a 11 liter or larger engine like your looking at in a quasi stock appearing third gen after I see it with my own eyes because talk is cheap.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

87RS, you and your damned dream shooting rocket dog seems to have grounded what little hope i had of creating a worth while diesel power camaro.... well, back to the drawing boards.. next idea, turbin powered camaro maybe? sooner or later one of my whacked out ideas is gunna work!

 

In a marine high performance rating the C-12 (known as the 3196) makes 660hp at 2300 RPM.

However, you would have to extend the front of the car about 3 feet in length and four in hieght to get it in there. Plus the lack of sea water for the aftercooler would be a problem.

If you want a diesel, buy a Benz!

Eric