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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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2 vs 4 bolt main?

Right now I have a 305 in my 86 and I'm swapping to a 350 eventually. I found a 350 block for $75, but its only a 2 bolt. I don't know how many bolts mine is, but is it universal fit? Also, this thing won't see over 400hp, will it really matter? I'm trying to get around 300NA and maybe a charger if I strike it rich one day.
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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If you dont 'ever' plan on seing more than 400hp, the 2 bolt is fine ..

Id get a 4 bolt, its just a better investment for later options ..

You can get one out of a yukon-sunurban-1500 ...

'96 - up had the vortec heads with the 15" back cut if I recall correctly, and its a 4 bolt roller block ..
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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For just about anything you could drive on the street, 2 bolt or 4 bolt is fine. For anything more, you'd probably want a 2 bolt block so that you could machine it for splayed 4 bolt caps anyway.
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Well I'm not a racer or anything. I'd be happy with a built 305, but I figure if I can get a 350 cheap might as well see what I can do.
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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Just look for a block in good condition with no core shift or anything, and forget about how many bolts it has on the mains. It really doesn't matter to you.
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Core shifts?
I'm new to the whole building an engine thing.
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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When they cast a block, sand cores are placed into a mold to create the voids that will become the cylinders, water jackets, etc. and then metal is poured in around them. Sometimes the cores will shift around a little so the bore spacing won't be quite right, or the cylinders will be a little thinner on one side, or the crank to cam centerline might be a little off, etc. It might not be bad enough that it would cause the block to be rejected for factory assembly, but it's not something you'd want to start out with on a rebuild.
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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Id get a 4 bolt, its just a better investment for later options ..
Just to hit on what has been already said a two is actualy better than a 4.

Just look for a block in good condition with no core shift or anything, and forget about how many bolts it has on the mains. It really doesn't matter to you.
Exactly!! dont go worrying about 2 or 4 on your first engine build. Just make sure whatever you get you take it in for a inspection by a reputable engine shop before you make an investment. building engines is fun but be prepared to spend alot of cash.
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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Re: 2 vs 4 bolt main?

Originally posted by firebirdjosh
I don't know how many bolts mine is, but is it universal fit?
I just noticed this too. The number of bolts on the mains has nothing at all to do with any other parts of the new or the old engine. It won't affect your swap at all.
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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Also try to look for a roller block(roller lifters that ride on the cam). It isnt a must have for 300-400 hp but is more likely to be a better investment. I believe 86 and up cars had them. Im pretty sure some trucks had solid up into the early 90s. Maybee someone else could chime in and feed you a little more acurate information.
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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From: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
Car: 1984 Z28 Hardtop
Engine: 383 Carb
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The factory roller blocks were the 87+ blocks with the one-piece rear main. He wouldn't be able to use some of the parts from his 86 two piece RMS block. Older 2 piece RMS blocks are considerably more common.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by Apeiron
The factory roller blocks were the 87+ blocks with the one-piece rear main. He wouldn't be able to use some of the parts from his 86 two piece RMS block. Older 2 piece RMS blocks are considerably more common.
'86 was the first year for the 1 pc rms.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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From: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
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My mistake.
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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Just put in some ARP bolts, or better yet studs and you'll be fine.

This aint a race car is it?
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