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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 11:17 PM
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550 Horsepower. Exhaust problem now...

New engine in. New problem found. Ran it with open headers, ran good. Added Y-pipe and 3" Catback. Runs like crap now.
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Best <b>Flowing / Quietest</b> Header-Back suggestion anyone can make. the 3" just aint doin it...
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 02:54 AM
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Not a lot of options here since 550 horsepower is basically more than 99% of aftermarket systems are made to handle. 4" mufflex should do it, or you could fabricate a true dual system with 2.5 or 3" pipes. You may be looking at some custom work for the y-pipe. Don't settle for some cheap mashed together thing if you go that route, make sure it's a true Y at the connection to the "offroad" pipe.

What kind of headers?
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 09:48 AM
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Yep, there's not much out there for a cat-back over 3".

I guess cause most people that put that kind of HP together realize the benefits of true duals.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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A motor like that needs true duals.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 09:59 PM
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Old Aug 30, 2002 | 12:55 AM
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oh boy. chassis dyno results.... Catback eating 60-70 horsepower and TQ throught the entire graph... ouch eh? Working on a solution.. thanks for feedback!
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Old Aug 30, 2002 | 08:00 AM
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Here's what I am in the process of doing. I had the same problem. Ran good without exhaust, slow with 3" exhaust.
I Ordered the Mufflex 4" system, took the y-pipe from my hooker super comps and cut it where it y's down to 3", extended the 2 1/2" pipe (from the y-pipe) around the corner headed towards the cat (where mine used to be), bought a Flowmaster dual 2 1/2" to single 3 1/2" y-collector, had an exhaust sjop expand the 3 1/2" end to 4" o.d., and will weld it to the mufflex as soon as I get the darn thing. (they make them to order).
This should flow plenty of air for my 383ci.
The single 4" pipe will outflow dual 2 1/2's. Besides, look how quick Spohn is running with a single 4" pipe.
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Old Aug 30, 2002 | 10:24 AM
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Yeah, the 4 inch Mufflex system is supposed to be equal in flow to 3 inch duals.
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Old Aug 31, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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hey just screw it all do what im doing once i get a bigger motor with power. im going with hooker super comp long tube headers, moroso turndowns from jegs and im goin to cut a section out of the turn down to throw a muffler in there the quiet it a little and then have it exit in front of the rear tires. the moroso turn downs are 3'' and 4'' pipes. i was also thinkin of tryin to find a way to put a X pipe in there too but who knows.
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Old Aug 31, 2002 | 05:35 PM
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The only problem with that is that ground clearance gets to be really low, trust me I know...
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Old Sep 3, 2002 | 10:18 AM
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That's why I am doing itthe way I am.....so I can keep some ground clearance.
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Old Sep 3, 2002 | 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by Dragula
Besides, look how quick Spohn is running with a single 4" pipe.

Actually I believe he is running dual 4 inch, becauses I have talked to him about running duals before and he said I could do it with smaller pipes if he could do it with dual 4". I looked at his sight and I know his headers have 1 7/8" primaries and 4" collectors so that is all I know for sure, but I am pretty sure he is running dual 4" pipes.

Ben
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Old Sep 3, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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Hmm.....I thought I heard he was running only a single 4"....but who knows.....I have never seen his car
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Old Sep 3, 2002 | 02:49 PM
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I would want somthing like this with all that power. Well with the 3" pipes. For now I'm thinking of that remote cap.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=126944

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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 08:35 AM
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i am gonna agree with the 4 in mufflex people... i have a buddy with a 94 z28 355cid port/polished heads, blower cam and a AT1 procharger running about 12 lbs of boost and runs the mufflex 4 inch... he loves it... it sounds awesome too...
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 02:02 AM
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Drag,
If you can get the 3.5" side expanded to 4", then can they expand the 2.5" side to 3"?

That would make my life easier since I dont have a cat.
I just run the headers back under the spohn tranny x mount and into a flowmaster collector mounted in the tunnel and then to the stock location modified muffler.
I need a quiet exhaust to race at tracks like laguna Sec that are sound limited to 90 db, but flange the muffle to replace with a straight pipe for open exhaust tracks like thunder hill.
Evan
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 07:03 AM
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I believe they make a 3".....look it up at Summit
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 09:27 PM
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Whatever you do, don't get dual 2.5" Friend's car was running dual 2.5" on a 500+ hp motor and switched to dual 3inch huge difference.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 10:32 PM
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believe it or not as far as sound tolerance my friend has a 500 hp 454 in his malibu and he has dual straight 3" with the cheap $20 summit mufflers dumpin before the axels and they rob very little horsepower and are quiet for what he is workin with.... just my two cents
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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 04:01 AM
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a motor like that needs true duals
I would have to agree with that. A 550 hp engine is gonna need to breathe
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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 06:31 AM
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goto the nascar link.

I'm ordering 9ft of the 3 1/2 inch oval pipe,2 round to oval adapters for Hooker Long Tubes,aX-Pipe. & 2 spintech muffs.
SORTA like this
but more sized for a 3rdGen

Gona run 4th Gen tips out just befor the rear tires like this picture


Im picking up the supercomps next saterday. but might be a month or 2 befor I have it all in. Gona order a Roadtech k-member and A-arms 1st also..

Later
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