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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 09:37 PM
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pics of my dual 3" exhaust

ok, alot of people wanted to see pics of this so i finally took some today...then of course we had to finish off the film to get it developed so what else to do but some burnouts!!!!

anyways, heres a pic of the underside of the car showing how the exhaust is routed:
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 09:39 PM
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heres a slightly different pic of the back, giving an idea of the ground clearance, which really isnt that bad.....

oh ya the exhaust has been on the car for about 9 months now, and in case you havent seen them before, the mufflers are 3" flowtech warlocks
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 09:57 PM
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do you have any more pics, I'm about to attempt it, and if I can run it out the back that'd be great, I'm amazed at how those mufflers are turned, yet you have clearance.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 10:05 PM
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ya the mufflers are no where near the ground, id say at least 7-8 inches of ground clearance at that point. the outlet of the muffler is a little bit higher than the bottom of the bumper cover, and the pipe angles down somewhat to reach under the bumper cover and the tip straightens out a bit to make it look good i have one more pic of the exhaust but im not sure if you can see it any better. if you look at the mufflers in relationship to the wheels though, you can see that they are actually pretty high
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 10:06 PM
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oh ya, in order to accomplish this, the back of the muffler is very close to the panhard rod (doesnt hit it though) like 1/4" of clearance between them at the most
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
oh ya, in order to accomplish this, the back of the muffler is very close to the panhard rod (doesnt hit it though) like 1/4" of clearance between them at the most
will there be any probs if i get SFCs?
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 10:25 PM
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nope i have south side machine sfc's the exhaust runs down the middle, and the crossmember that you can see is welded to the sfc's and is where the lift bars bolt onto. the sfc's are nowhere near the exhaust.
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 09:17 AM
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nice setup can we see a pic with it (car) on the ground though
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 09:21 AM
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lol, i couldnt really get a pic with the car on the ground

im assuming you wanna see the ground clearance. well the exhaust has plenty of clearance, except right by the tranny crossmember, which is the lowest point. This is only with 3" pipe though, my brother has dual 2-1/4 with the same setup and his clears fine. the mufflers in the back have a solid 7-8 inches of clearance
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 09:23 AM
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you can see the pipes in thie picture but thats about it really
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 09:30 AM
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oh ya in case anyone is wondering, the warlock mufflers sound awesome....its not the guy next doors flowmaster at all
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 09:55 AM
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looks sweet you don't mind if i steal your idea do you
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 10:05 AM
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is that a custom crossmember or did it come in a kit i don't rember mine coming down like that
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 11:32 AM
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looks sweet you don't mind if i steal your idea do you
not at all man, go for it.....but it really wasnt my idea, my exhaust guy came up with it, i actually have a pretty heavy duty pipe bender and so forth (dad owns a fence company) but i just dont have the skill at bending tubing, so i had him do it. It only took the guy 2.5 hours start to finish. the crossmember your talking about is part of the south side machine lift bar setup.... its welded to the subframe connectors and the lift bars are welded to the rear end, then they bolt up to the crossmember....

if you look in the exhaust pic you will notice that there is no torque arm, as the lift bars eliminate the need for it. the lift bar crossmember is located about mid car, several feet behind the trans crossmemberheres a better pic of the crossmember from the side
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 04:53 PM
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I have a couple of questions. How much clearance do you have where the pipe runs under the rear end? Also how low does that ssm crossmember hang in the middle?

Ben
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 05:44 PM
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I have a couple of questions. How much clearance do you have where the pipe runs under the rear end? Also how low does that ssm crossmember hang in the middle?

Ben
where the pipe runs under the axle tubes....do you mean bewtween the axle tubes and the pipe or ground clearance?

there is plenty of ground clearance id say at least 6 inches there.....if you mean between the exhaust and the tubes, its pretty small, but it doesnt ever hit it. because when the suspension compresses, the car moves down over the axle, and the exhaust is mounted to the body so it moves away from the axle during suspension compression, and it never extends far enough to hit either. the crossmember is 1 piece of tubing with brackets for the lift bars to bolt to. its welded to the subframes on each side with gussets.....its kinda low, but its not really a big problem, unless entering into a garage door with a steep entrance angle, etc.
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 06:42 PM
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Yes, I meant between the pipes and ground where it ran under the axle.

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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 12:35 AM
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yup plenty of room there, all systems are go under the axle :rockon:
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 01:49 AM
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
if you mean between the exhaust and the tubes, its pretty small, but it doesnt ever hit it. because when the suspension compresses, the car moves down over the axle, and the exhaust is mounted to the body so it moves away from the axle during suspension compression, and it never extends far enough to hit either.
What happens when the suspension extends?
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 01:56 AM
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nothing, it never extends that far unde driving conditions.....but if you jack the car up, you have to make sure you do it under the rear end, unless you take the exhaust off (not really a big deal) the exhaust has never been hit by the axle before in 9 months of driving (hit some mean bumps too)

i didnt believen it either, my exhaust guy kept assuring me he knew what he was doing, and he really did. i answered this in the last post, if you read the end of the quote that you used.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 02:35 PM
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That looks very interesting. haven't seen one like that before. I like that fact that the pipes don't appear to hang down under the middle of the car. I have contemplated doing something similar, with 1 cgmaber flowmasters in front of the the rear axle, with turn downs instead of tailpipes.

but anyway, you did a nice job.

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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 07:15 PM
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Very nice car and exhaust set up.

Is that a pic of your car from NE Dragway?
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 03:30 PM
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Thats an awsome setup....I was wondering, would you happen to have more pictures of the system from the headers back? Im curious about how its setup in that area
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 03:43 PM
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Do you have the hooker super comp lts? If so did the dual 3" pipe clear the crossmember or did it have to be bent to clear?

Thanks

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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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nope, that pic was from a car show at my school (it does look like the bleachers at NED though doesnt it?)

it was at western new england college in springfield ma

nope, i dont have any pics of the exhaust up near the headers....but it just comes straight back, and then (to answer momar) the pipe does habve to bend out and around the crossmember otherwise it would be in the way and it would be way to low....even so, its still the lowest point on the whole exhaust.

i dont remember exactly what the part number for my headers was...i dont have my paperwork here right now. They are full length headers though, they have 1-3/4" primaries (wanted 1-7/8 for more top end, but with this cam i need all the low end punch i can get) with 3" collectors.....they are about 10" long i believe the collectors that is. they are also fully ceramic coated
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 09:49 PM
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looks awesome dude
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 10:29 AM
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looks good!
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