raptere

Has any one tried the Borla exhaust system for a 1991 or similar Camaro? If So, what did you think i am about to buy one but i want to make sure it is a secure infestment, all signs point to yes.

Thanks for the advice!

1991 Camaro Z-28
Bone Stock
5.7 TPI (2 cats)

MdFormula350

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subzero

I have ainstalled a couple of them and the fit was ok,but the tips look terrible and constantly come loose with the clamps they use.I was also not impressed with the sound of the kit..The adjustable systems sound much better on the newer f body's ,but is you are getting a good deal on it...then go for it

tbfirebird

this is just my $0.02 get a flowmaster 80 series and take out the cat and replace the cat with a 2 foot pipe it sounds sweeeeet i cant belive the sound. And the muffler was only $72.95 at summitracing.com:hail: :hail:

BRIrocZ

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The biggest drawback of the Borla is of course the price. I've had mine for a little over a year and have had no problems at all. The tips you get aren't bad, but I wish we got the square intercooled tips the fourth gens get.

Larry Dunlap

Yeah I wish I could get those square tips too. I installed my adjustable borla a few weeks ago, and its great. Im trying to get a sound clip. It sounds great a idle and normal cruising speeds, not as loud as I expected, I want loud really as my car is not a daily driver. When I drive it I want to enjoy the sound. Thats the nice thing about the adujustable. The hangars I got for this tips are fine. It is a little harsher or raspier at WOT than some, like flowmaster, but it still sounds good to me. LIngenfelter says borla is the best combination of sound and performance. :hail:

Hes the man

BRIrocZ

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Interesting, the raspiness I noted was mostly at cruising speeds, at WOT I get a deep ROAR. Perhaps its because I gutted my cat? Its about twice as loud as my old Hooker setup with the open plate, thats the only way I run mine.

russkull84

I have had my system for a few years now and am really happy with it. It isn't too loud but definately wakes up when you punch the go-pedal. Also, the adjustibility comes in handy for noise control and backpressure control.

86 IROC

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Overpriced, that's the one word that comes to mind when I hear the word Borla. What everyone seems to leave out is that you end up using the first 2 feet of your stock or existing exhuast to attatch to the borla kit and make it complete. When I bought mine I paid $449.99 + ship. That's a lot of damn money for that jigsaw puzzle they send you. I wish I had sent it back, I was deeply dissapointed when I opened the box. I expected to get a complete bolt - on system like I saw on 4th Gens. If you must have the Borla, I would suggest getting a kit fro a 4th Gen and making the y-pipe mate up to the cat back.

BTW - I didn't see much of a performance gain running the Borla w/ a wide open plate vs. my stock GM cat back w/ an Aerochamber muffler.

BORLAZ06

wish i had 4th gen tips...

vid clip:

http://members.directvinternet.com/borlaz06/borla12.MPG

Larry Dunlap

hmm, Well I bought mine used and it came in 5 pieces instead of about twice that many because the guy who took it off his car just took it apart enought to ship it, so I guess that was a help. I had heard that it would not reach the littel y pipe behind the cats (I have a dual cat car) and I would have to fabricate something. I took it to a muffler shop becuase I expecte some welding and cutting, so they just cut off the existing system to the point where the 3" borla system came (about 6" from the cats) and slipped the 3" borla right over the 2 3/4" existing pipe and welded it. The cat back system has two other hangers, one on each side of the muffler. The one on the driver side bolted right up to the rubber strap hanger, but they had to weld a little piece of metal on the passenger side one to get it to work. Each set of two tips also has a rubber hanger and they bolted right on. So you are right, it wasn't a direct bolt on, but with a torch and welder it only took about 20 minutes to put on.
Here is a pic. Do you think the tips should be raised a little?

BORLAZ06

yea id raise the ends another inch or so.

BRIrocZ

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Hey Borla, was that an open plate? What else are you running exhaust wise(headers, cats)?

TA5LiterHO

I dont want to offend anyone or anything, but borla exhaust in my opinion is overpriced and its sound is nothing compaired to flowmaster. 84 ta with headman headers and flowmaster 80 series. Borla gives the exhaust too much of a v6 sound. probably a result of the stainless steal.

BORLAZ06

No plate...

i have stock headers and stock cats.

StreetRCR

JUNK JUNK JUNK----Spend all that money then block of the muffler with a plate-----genius. I may be biased but flowmaster is the king. You could just have a strait pipe put on for 1/10th the price. I do alot of custom work to cars and have put a lot of borla systems on peoples cars who just end up scraping it for flowmaster. Who want to crawl underneath their car to tune their exhaust anyway---Gay gay gay. Remind me of those Junk Supertrapps!!!!

russkull84

FYI- the borla system doesnt work by blocking off the muffler...it uses plates to block off the straight section of exhaust that runs from the cats to the muffler. Exhaust still goes thru the muffler, but just not as much...hence, the change in backpressure....I have been happy with the system, although the intial installation was a PITA. Sounds awesome and doesnt drown out the radio at speed like the flowmasters do

JPrevost

Flowmasters sound like you're faster than you really are. I think it's funny watching a nice quiet "performance" exhaust race and beat a flowblow car. All you're doing is calling attention to yourself when in reality you're still slow. Blorla has the best of both worlds. Nobody in their right mind can say that it's not one of the best flowing 3" cat-backs and then you've got the choice of running it with different plates for sound.
I've had a bunch of exhaust setups on my f-body's. Stock is crap, dynomax super turbo cheap *** mufflers sound really good, much better than flowmasters. Borla sounds awesome with a 1.5" plate, closed it sounds like a new vette, open it's open, what else can I say. The best part about the system is it's stainless and everything is there. You don't have to by plates or make them yourself and the cut-out is in an easy to get place. I don't even run the passengers side tip.
I paid $100 for my setup used and cut up, mufflex welded it up for $80. That's $180 for a stainless cat-back WITH cut-out INSTALLED. If you had to pay for the system new then you're right, it's over priced. Except that what you're getting is a stainless cut-out with quality muffler and crappy tips .
I wouldn't pay for the system new. If I went with a standard material it would be the $30 summit muffler that I had on the car. It sounded really good. Nice rumble and low notes with engine load ~2200rpm, past that and it roared like the borla. Only difference is there isn't any annoying droaning sound from the borla, just a nice pleasent v8 pure until you get on it.
Like I said, don't buy the system new but don't turn down a good price on it. Oh yeah, and if you bolted up the system you should be ashamed of yourself, welding is the only way to go.

Der91Z

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I had the Borla System on my car and it sounded great, it had a quiet but deep idle, not too loud. At WOT it sounded pretty bad a**. I would of kept the exhaust but the local law enforcement wouldn't let me keep the exhaust since i've been pulled over for it way too much, so i got fed up with it. I have swtiched to a Mufflex 3-1/2" exhaust with the Spintech Muffler and this system is very deep. I think Spintech mufflers kicks Flowmaster to the curb and the construction of the mufflers looks much higher quality. The Fitment on the catback of the Borla isn't the greatest but any competent exhaust shop should have no problems getting it on correctly. I don't recommend doing this exhaust in your driveway for the average person.

84TAProject

A buddy of mine has the borla on his 93 LT1, and it sounds awesome. Not as good as my hooker, but his is probably louder. He hasnt been pulled over for it, and Ive been pulled over with my hooker. Its different, not like everyone else with the flows, which seem to be the one of choice around here. I know Im the only one with the hooker and ive gotten nothing but compliments on the exhaust and several people have asked me what kind of exhaust it is.