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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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Headers installed running like crap

I just got my headers installed took the guy 3days to do it, lol. Anyways, my car is running like complete junk. He told me i needed to change my wires and put 90* boot wires on it so i am going to. Do you think this will fixed the problem. Its idling horribly, when u put it in drive it like wants to die, and while driving ive been told it sounds like a tank, lol... Any and all help would be gr8 if theres some1 local to Phila, u know how to solve this problem let me know ill drive out to you. Thanx
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 06:31 PM
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kinda sounds like a problem that would be caused by something in your ignition system. try out the plug idea. good luck.
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 07:38 PM
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I'm shooting in the dark here since I'm not there to look at the car, but check the 02 sensor and wire going to it. You may have a burned wire to the sensor and that would definately cause problems.

You might have also damaged the 02 sensor during the changover to headers.
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 08:29 PM
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What kind of headers are they what engine do you have?
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 11:24 PM
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dyno emissions legal headers ceramic coated. The o2 sensor is a new bosch one, ive been told that if its crimped not souderd *SP* together that it could also mess it up.... Ill be changing my wires over anywhere, just really dont get how this is could make my car run retarded
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 11:55 PM
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Your mechanic is right about using 90 deg boots on ignition wires. Just about any header will require you to do this. You probably burned a boot or two and maybe the wire, causing a miss and your rough idling. I recommend getting universal wires with 90 deg plug boots and cutting it to fit. Take your time to route the wires right so you won't burn them.
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by IROCZZ3
Your mechanic is right about using 90 deg boots on ignition wires. Just about any header will require you to do this. You probably burned a boot or two and maybe the wire, causing a miss and your rough idling. I recommend getting universal wires with 90 deg plug boots and cutting it to fit. Take your time to route the wires right so you won't burn them.
Agreed, the cut to fit will be the best option.
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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I do beleave I figured out what the problem is besides needing new wires, i think the idiot put the wires on WRONG!!!!!!! This is why i could be messing, having no power, and running like the engine is going 2 die
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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Well that would definately do it. I guess we were all looking for a more complex problem, and not taking stupidity into account.

I guess the "kiss" principle (keep it simple stupid) should have been the first thing we all looked at
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 12:32 PM
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LOL, I'll let you guys know if that really is the problem tomoro, i take it over to my normal mechainc and i need to get emissions and inspection done anyway so why not kill 2 birds with one stone ya know. Hopefully its the wires being in the wrong cyls problem, geez i hope it is atleast, lol
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 08:11 PM
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first thing i would check is the wring order the guy probably put your wires back on wrong


edit: should have read down a little further
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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mine runs a tiny bit rough too......but not as bad as his. Even if say a wire was touching the headers,,,but not getting burned would it be grounding out or mess it up abit???

also,,,say I had one plug wire not geting a good connection how bad would my car run, would it be really noticable......its hard for me to tel as I only have it in the garage till some of this snow goes away.
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 02:46 PM
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My car runs fine now. The guy who installed the headers put the firing order as a FORD!!!!! Stupied SOB. My wires on basically laying on the headers with no problem, except they will most likely melt in a couple weeks, which is not a problem... Check to see if ur connections are complete, not like half a$$ barely touching, u want a full contact... If it is still running a lil ruff up the timing 2* if ur running reg u will ping, but it should cure the ruffness. If not try a basic tune up. When I first got my car it ran horrible 2 cans of Gumout, and a complete tune up later runs brand new... Try the little things first then think big.
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