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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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Full length headers

Hey guys, i just got some full length headers. I think there for a truck but in not sure. I think they will fit, but, im not sure of the drivers side. Im pretty sure it will clear the column, but not sure if it will clear the bottom of the car on the drivers side cause there is no indent for duel exhaust. Has ne1 ever put a set of long tubes on there third gen? i was going to bolt on a set of glass packed mufflers and run the exhaust out in front of the rear wheels.



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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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You're going to need a header designed specifically for a thirdgen F-body.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:06 PM
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you dont think they'll work? We put car headers on a truck once and they fit fine accept they were barely hitting the floor board.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:13 PM
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An engine bay on a 3rd gen is tight. I have long tubes designed for our cars, and there had to be small modifications done.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:47 PM
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Yeah, not a chance of getting those to work.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 11:19 PM
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heres a guy who put regular 350 full length headers on his Iroc.

http://hieberte.home.attbi.com/IROC.htm

He says there just a pair of regular car headers.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 12:53 AM
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From: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
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Where does he say that?

There are no "regular car" headers. They have to be made for one body style or another.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 01:10 AM
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oh? when i went to buy full length headers for my 80 camaro, they were the same part # for like 72 nova,67 chevelle,79 monte carlo,75 camaro,67 camaro.it was like every chevy car made with the sb v-8 except the corvette. That is what i think is meant by "regular" unlike the forth gen exhaust wont work on third gen cause of the way the exhaust curves under the passangers side, but as for those full length ones, if you look in a catalog, there probably all catagorized into one part number 79.00 dallars for like sb chevy headers. if you look for headers for a camaro, i think you'll find only 1 part number for 67-81. as a second thought, i knew ppl who put third gen exhaust maniflods on there second gen. There is a forth gen owner with a z-28 (1994) that ran those hooker headers (full length).she even had the mechanic weld an O2 sensor fitting too. i think it was a pain getting them in cause the ABS and smog pump set right in front of the engine on those cars. but they did fit. but, i dont really see that the headers wont fit a third gen. that guy with the website i gave you bought those 79 dallar ones and hes running them. anyway im going to try to put them on soon. if they go on , ill take photos of it and post it.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:44 AM
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I think you are going to be dissapointed after all that work to try to get them to fit if they werent made for a thirdgen. Do you have pics of the headers them selves? You will notice that those headers that have a lot of cars listed that they work on doesnt include thirdgen camaro's. Also, I dont see thirdgen exhuast fitting a fourthgen. There are long tubes for fourthgens, but they are shaped quite differently also. I just recently pulled a motor out of a 93 and I really dont think that there is any way that my hooker long tubes would have fit in that engine bay.

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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 08:12 AM
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Silly engineers...body specific applications are for people without creativity, imagination.....and sledge hammers!

PS...I just picked up a 2 range 16 speed transmission...I think it's out of a Peterbilt. I should be able to get that in ok, right?
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 02:48 PM
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i put edelbrock headers on a 1990 Iroc and i put some on my 93 Trans am and the headers themselves were identical. the y pipe was different,
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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actually, every car i installed headers for wasnt the correct for the application, but they DID fit and i didnt have to hammer on them. as i look at the 4th gen, these headers i have would work, i think. there seems to be more clearence in the floorboard on the drivers side where the third gen doesnt. the girl i know that had those headers installed on her 4 th gen, but they werent designed for the car, they also had to weld in an axhaust sensor to. the headers i have are regular full length and do not look like the ones you pictured. those look like 1 3/4 inch ones with larger collectors, i imagine those would be a tad harder to install. The headers i bought for my 80 camaro i sold to a guy with an 84 buick regal and they fit just as well on that car as they did on the camaro. there is a different part number for the third gen full length headers, the reason is the 02 sensor bung. i dont see much of a problem, ive never had a header not fot any vehicle ive ever put them on? guess im just that good lol.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 03:32 PM
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there is a different part number for the third gen full length headers, the reason is the 02 sensor bung. i dont see much of a problem, ive never had a header not fot any vehicle ive ever put them on? guess im just that good lol.
Having just put on a set of Hooker long tubes, I can tell you that they have to be made for a third gen or they won't fit. The clearances are that tight. If you are skilled with a smoke wrench & a hammer, you could probably mangle them up & get them in. 1st & 2nd gens are a different story as well a A & G bodies, most any generic SB header will fit those chassis. FYI, the Hooker LTs don' come with O2 bungs. You have to weld them in yourself.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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i donno, putting in and taking out so many engines from 2nd and third gen camaros, i have found more room to get to the bell housing bolts and stuff from the engine bay itself? Will i benefit from full length at all?
i have flow tech shorties and y pipe in there now?
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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I have only taken motors in and out of third and fourth gens. What size primaries and collectors do you have on the full length headers? What is your engine setup. I think that there are deffinately better solutions that the flowtech. Flowtech headers are only 1.5" primaries. Unless you are making a decent amount of power, I dont think you will notice a big difference between long and short primaries, although you may from diameter.

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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 01:37 AM
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You know, now that i looked at it better, i dont think these headers will fit. looks like 2nd gen full length headers.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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well the side i checked today, it didnt fit. the tubes hit the comtrol arm frame. dadburn third gens. i better stick with the computers and cams and stuff
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