finally took some pics. Hooker long tubes , duel 3" pipes , and duel 3"in/out Spintech's with a 3" case hight. and it does sound GOOD behind a 314 duration .600 lift hyd. roller cam. and no i don't have a way to provide a sound clip , but it is a deep rumble with a very throaty sound at 4000 rpm when the cam comes on . the frame is notched up to provide a way to route the pipes and still have ground clearance.

mike

the frame notch

here's a lousy shot of the car but it shows the ground clearance even with 2" drop spindles and rear springs

looks awesome man.....what coating is on the pipes....jus black hightemp paint

was your car originally a v6 or 8?

Just out of Curiosity why did you run the Fuel lines on the Passenger Side?

nice, very similar to my setup

high temp paint the ex. shop did when they did the ex. . the 2 fuel lines are 1/2" and a 6an NOS hose ,seemed the easyist route and away from the exhaust . it is a original Z-28 so i assume it come with a 305
mike

Looks great, sounds like a killer setup.

What mufflers are those? Your duals turned out way better than mine. Ive had my duals for 5 months or so and the mufflers are beat all to hell. It finally happened tonight. I completly ripped a muffler and most of the pipe off :sillylol:

I rolled over a manhole cover on a little hill and BAAAAAAMMMM. Then I noticed the sound of straight pipes and started laughing my *** off. In an ironic way its funny.

I have a 3'' hooker catback sitting in my room so thats going on when I order some hooker 2055s monday.

I wouldnt recommend duals to anyone. Yours turned out real well tho. I didnt have close to that kinda clearance.

BTW I like the car. I have an 88 two tone red/silver with the same rims and tires

He said they were Spintech's dumbass. *** you WV people are dumb you sound like this other idiot 305tbicamaro ... from this site

j/k btw

That is me if your aren't kidding. I cant post on my old name for some reason or another.

What kinda spintechs? Part #s would be nice. I had 2 flowmaster street mufflers on mine. I know have 1

LOL im still cracking up.

Looks bad ***.
:hail:

Nice setup, I might look into notching the frame when I replace my shorty duals to longtube duals.

Is notching the frame a good idea? Our cars are pretty flimsy under there as is.

88camaro, i know spintech makes a muffler that is the slimest of them all i think its like 2.5" and thats it. so to there web site and look at them if u want.

looks to me like he had made supports in the frame so i wouldnt worry about it

can you give more information on notching the frame. Like what you used and how you reinforced it

where the frame is notched , the hole is welded up with 1/8" plate . it is stronger than what was cut out . so i wasn't to worried . you can see it in the second pic.

mike

I have heard people say that running true dual with no H or X pipe sounds like a 4 cylinder because you are only running 4 cylinders on each pipe is this true?

on my friends 1970 chevelle with a 350 and true dual exuast with flowmaster 30 series with dumps he just put on the car. when he revs it, it sounds like an LS1 almost with the kinda exuast note it has. sounds good.

If you dont mind me asking, how much did that cost you to have done, I am currently looking for a place in my area to do it but I want to know if their prices are too high or not, part number for the mufflers would be great also.

Looks awesome.

I am planning on doing the exact same thing. Even the notch because I have the Spohn TQ arm. I am currently running a 3 in Y pipe under the crossmember and I have about 2 in of ground clearance at stock ride height. Yeah, I scrape on everything. I have a 4 in Spintech so I can imagine what yours sounds like.

Congradulations...

i dont have the part # but i'll get it tomarrow . it cost me $440.00 but it should have been around $600.00 (helps when you own your own shop and have delt with them for years and years)

mike

Whoever told you the deal with the 4 cylinder sound is a R-E-T-A-R-D.

The sound is based on your head design. Cam, headers/mufflers modify the sound.

I second that

Anyone ever notice that the pitch of engines gets deeper as displacement increases. To me it is very noticable. Just a thought because of some one who mentioned that a dual exhaust with no crossover would sound like a 4 cylinder. Yeah, what ever...

That looks sweet. I like the setup, how does it sound? Does nopt having the tailpipes on those mufflers make a difference? Good/bad?

the exhaust shop said that they are Spintech street muffler's part # 3225 but they are a special ordered with a 3"case hight .

mike

Got a qusetion,With notching out the frame like you did is the frame still strong enough to hold a decent amount of horse power

this was true for the first Vipers that came out, since they had side pipes on each side of the car you would mostly hear 4 cylinders. i read this in a magazine somewhere. since camaros dont have side pipes and stuff it doesn't really matter.

that's odd considering vipers are v10s and not v8's

It's all about exhaust design and airflow... how fast and how much air flows. This as someone already stated is determined by displacement, head design and the camshaft.

yeah my bad. you'd only hear 5 cylinders, the 5 cylinders on that side of the car. it sounds retarded, allegedly, and i'd assume so since so many people bitched about it dodge added crossflow a year or 2 or 3 after the first vipers came out.

About how much ground clearance does your car have at the exhaust? More than 2-3"? You said it is dropped 2"up front and then whatever in the rear? From the pic it looks like there is a lot, compared to what I got...

Thanks in advance.

ahhhhh finally back online no internet for a week s^cks !! i have 2 3/4 " clearance on the hooker long tubes and 3 1/4 " at the low point of the system

mike

Damn, I only have about 2 inches and I am barely under stock ride height, weak front springs...

I need to do something different with my exhaust...

Vipers sound like tractors because of the motor being an odd fire design. It has almost nothing to do with their exhaust system.

The Spintechs he is referring to are the same one's I have for sale. If anyone is interested in them e-mail me @ 1FastZ@bellsouth.net

FYI.... If your worried about ground clearance you can always have spintech cut down the cases.

Im going with All Spintech Oval pipe into a x pipe and spintech muffs. I was wondering how to notch the frame for better clearance etc.. Great Pic's now to determin how I want to place the X-pipe. If I go out and notch the frame and back in for the X that alota dang oval pipe and its not cheap to get maderal bends in oval.

Mmmmm,

Actually, the only Viper's to receive any kind of crossflow exhaust equalization are the current 2003 SRT-10 cars. The gen1 cars built from 1992 until 1995 had side pipes which were later routed to exit out the back for 1996-2002 model years.

The exhaust note is indeed mostly the result of the V10's firing order.

i really really wanted an x pipe but could not figure out where to fit it . if you do , i would like to see how
thanks

mike

BTW man you have a really, beautiful, awesome car there. I don't say that a lot, I mean really. It's inspiration to turn my 84' from sleeper/beater to brake halting eye glaring!

I doubt it. Half a 350 is bigger than a 151 and it idles a lot slower over those 4 cylinders. Plus he's got headers on there which give it a deeper grunt than a hack I would guess.

the firing order plays a big part in the sound. for instance a 5.0L mustang vs 5.0L camaro. big big big sound difference.

Yup... thats why if you listen to a really rodded out BBC with the factory firing order, it sounds alot rougher than on with a 4-7 swap.

do u think if i showed those pics to a muffler shop that they could do the same thing on my car? also do u think that same setup would sound fine with 4" dynomax race mufflers?

oh yea u said u had your frame notched. how much clearence would i have if i didn't do that to my frame?

Very little and even less if you are lowered...

they actually tried to at first . ended up with 1/2" ground clearance . went back the next morning and talked to the owner and this is what he came up with .
mike