Houston...I think I might have a problem
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From: North Olmsted, OH
Car: 1984 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
Engine: H.O. 305 5.0L;L69
Transmission: T-5; Axle Ratio 3.73
Houston...I think I might have a problem
I just got a set of hooker 2055s with y pipe. Since it is way to cold to install them outside right know. I dediced to set them up in my basement, just to see how everything fits together. I think I have a few(what my little mind thinks) possible major problems.
#1
The set came with 3 solid black steel tubes. They are about 1in. long and 1/2in in diameter. I see that they fit into the large holes on the flanges, but there are 4 holes and I have 3 tubes. Should I have gotten 4? Also what the heck are they? Do I need them? There are no holes for them in the gaskets...
#2
I had to get AIR tubes because my state does a visual inspection. When I set the headers up on the Y pipe each of the AIR tubes point in different directions. I have a 1984 Carbed Trans Am. I know that the headers are for TBIs but I was under the impression that they still worked for carbs. Is that the way they are supposed to be on TBIs? Are my headers messed up? If everything is right with the headers then how the hell am I supposed to tube them up?
These questions are probably very stupid, but I know very little about this stuff. I am learning as I go and I am teaching myself.
Any help would be most appretiated.
#1
The set came with 3 solid black steel tubes. They are about 1in. long and 1/2in in diameter. I see that they fit into the large holes on the flanges, but there are 4 holes and I have 3 tubes. Should I have gotten 4? Also what the heck are they? Do I need them? There are no holes for them in the gaskets...
#2
I had to get AIR tubes because my state does a visual inspection. When I set the headers up on the Y pipe each of the AIR tubes point in different directions. I have a 1984 Carbed Trans Am. I know that the headers are for TBIs but I was under the impression that they still worked for carbs. Is that the way they are supposed to be on TBIs? Are my headers messed up? If everything is right with the headers then how the hell am I supposed to tube them up?
These questions are probably very stupid, but I know very little about this stuff. I am learning as I go and I am teaching myself.
Any help would be most appretiated.
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From: North Olmsted, OH
Car: 1984 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
Engine: H.O. 305 5.0L;L69
Transmission: T-5; Axle Ratio 3.73
Come on guys, I know somebody knows this stuff. Tons of people are running the 2055s
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
The spacers are for things that bolt up using exhaust manifold bolts. Since the header flange is thinner than the manifold, you need the spacers so things still align properly.
The headers are made for TPI systems. What I did was go to Ace Hardware and get two brass elbows and a piece of threaded brass pipe to hook the A.I.R. check valve up facing forward again. Crude, perhaps, but I had clearance to get it in there and pass emissions inspection/testing. The alternative is to cut the small tubes off of the primaries, turn it around, and weld it all back on.
The headers are made for TPI systems. What I did was go to Ace Hardware and get two brass elbows and a piece of threaded brass pipe to hook the A.I.R. check valve up facing forward again. Crude, perhaps, but I had clearance to get it in there and pass emissions inspection/testing. The alternative is to cut the small tubes off of the primaries, turn it around, and weld it all back on.
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Car: 83 Z-28
Engine: LG4
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 02 WS6 Rear w/3:42
Originally posted by five7kid
The spacers are for things that bolt up using exhaust manifold bolts. Since the header flange is thinner than the manifold, you need the spacers so things still align properly.
The headers are made for TPI systems. What I did was go to Ace Hardware and get two brass elbows and a piece of threaded brass pipe to hook the A.I.R. check valve up facing forward again. Crude, perhaps, but I had clearance to get it in there and pass emissions inspection/testing. The alternative is to cut the small tubes off of the primaries, turn it around, and weld it all back on.
The spacers are for things that bolt up using exhaust manifold bolts. Since the header flange is thinner than the manifold, you need the spacers so things still align properly.
The headers are made for TPI systems. What I did was go to Ace Hardware and get two brass elbows and a piece of threaded brass pipe to hook the A.I.R. check valve up facing forward again. Crude, perhaps, but I had clearance to get it in there and pass emissions inspection/testing. The alternative is to cut the small tubes off of the primaries, turn it around, and weld it all back on.
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Car: 1992 Firebird
Engine: forged 357
Transmission: 700r4, 2200-2400 stall, vette servo
Axle/Gears: stock pegleg 2.73 drum (temp)
Originally posted by mike83z-28
sorry for bringing this back from the dead. If I dont use the stock manifold bolts and use new ones will I need to use spacers?
sorry for bringing this back from the dead. If I dont use the stock manifold bolts and use new ones will I need to use spacers?
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Originally posted by Token
Standard header bolts will work fine, and they're like $5/dozen at the parts store. Just get used to tightening them every oil change.
Standard header bolts will work fine, and they're like $5/dozen at the parts store. Just get used to tightening them every oil change.
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Car: 84 Firebird Trans Am
Engine: 305 4bbl HO
Transmission: 700-R4, 3.73 rear
sorry for bringing this back from the dead. If I dont use the stock manifold bolts and use new ones will I need to use spacers?
as far as the air goes...just run around the back of the engine (like the TPI... i think) u'll need a longer hose but i'm sure it'll look cleaner.
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