This may be a criminal act, but has anyone used two sport compact mufflers on a 3rd gen? I searched long and hard, and could not come up with any pics. I can do all the fabrication needed to hang them, but kinda wanted to see some installed before I buy two $100+ mufflers and install them, then find out it looks awful.

I think two of these poking out below my bumper would look pretty neat, and different:

 

Why? They are huge and look bad. I saw an S-10 with one the other day and it looked horrible. Tips on third gen f-bodys don't look good anyway unless they don't stick out to far and hang to low look good.

That IMHO will look horrible becaue you'll have this huge can hanging down below the exhaust tip itself.

But if you think it will look good go for it. That is just my opinion.

 

I second that....Why & Yuck?

 

I wanted something different.

It would flow quite well since these mufflers are straight thru similar to a glasspack (I mean it would certainly flow better than a flowmaster crossflow muffler).

I was also hoping that with the free flow some of the turbo whistle would be heard in the exhaust. I respect anyone's opinion, but I was really hoping to see pics of a car that had them.

Maybe no one tried it because they thought it would look awful?

 

It would probably look similar to this only shiney and no tip sticking out (unless you wanted the entire case mounted under the rear bumper ?)...

 

Look what I found.

This is close to my idea, but I want one on each side, pointing straight out the back.

 

I'm going to stick with my original post and say ah, No!

 

iroc2nv has them I think

And I also think they look like crap, but its your car.

 

If you want big a shiny, do what I did. Put 4" slash tips about 20" long on, very very nice looking and they flow under the car nicely. From the side you can't even see the point where they're welded.

 

nooooooooooo

 

If you want something different get a normal cat back. Sure we all have them, but every person on the road will want to know what you have. You see fart cans every day on all sorts of cars and you never hear anyone say "wow what exhaust is that?"

 

My american thunder has beautiful polished tips, like 15-20" long i think. 3", and they've got 'flowmaster' stamped into the top of them. plus there is no fart can to be seen underneath.

-chuck

 

I saw somebody driving a new Mustang by school the other day in the morning with one of those racer (erm.. a = i) mufflers. Not only did it look bad, it sounded like utter crap. You just don't do that to an American muscle car. Its like the little kid around the block that thinks he's a bad ***, but hasn't gone through puberty yet. Tries to be bad, but nobody can take him serioulsy because of his voice

 

I agree with everyone else...NOOOOOOOO don't do it, anyone that would do something like that should be sent to the **** emporium

American and **** do not play well together...of course it is your car and if you like the sound of the bumble bees driving around go for it, but i personally think it is a ridiculous idea.

 

muffler doesnt make it sound bad by itself. ive heard some ***** mufflers on some big inch small blocks and they sound nasty. its not the waaa waa sound. it is still very raspy and you can tell its an 8. i say go for it. its your car who cares what we think. most of the people here are rednecks. not me ofcourse

 

fart cans look ghey on any car, just put some nice tips on it, and call it a day.

 

fart cans look gay, it would make your car sound like crap, it would be insanely loud cuz in essence it is only a resonator, and you'd be the laughing stock of even the r!cers. Sorry, but it's really that simple

 

Atleast rednecks have enough sense to not have their exhaust tubing go from 2" abrubtly to 8" then down to 2" and out 4".

 

your gonna put **** bombs on your car , i want to hear what it sounds like when your done, I would like to hear my dads 462 poncho with two **** bombs on it. I saw go for it, it isnt my car so do it. But it will probably look crappy just like it does on the *****'s cars.

 

I knew this would get some interesting responses. I agree that it may look funny, but I would like to see it on a 3rd gen.

I do not think it would sound too bad, since they are connected to a V8- it will not sound like a ryce burner. Also, it will not be too loud because of my turbos- even with the cut-out open, it is not much louder than some aftermarket 3rd gen systems. You just hear a lot of turbine whistle with the cut-out open.

Thanks for your opinions!

 

I wouldn't mind hearing a V8 through them so if you do do it get a sound clip! I just don't think it will look very good. But hey Do what pleases you and not worry about us.

 

Apparently knowledge of the basic construction of an import muffler is not known. They simply are a dynomax bullet (or other company straight through design) with a absurdly large tip (not actual core) and a polished casing.
Putting one on a v8 w/no tip makes for an unreasonably loud bassy depth tone and just plain loud when hammering on the throttle.
Here's the basic construction of the muffler you all are b---hing about... (hiding it is the key to keeping it from looking like crap)..

 

To the original question though... yes, they would look stupid mounted in full view under the rear bumper

 

in my opinion i know it doesn't mean much since i don't have an f body yet but if i saw someone driving around in one with those big puppies on there i would give respect for doing something different but i would still laugh hard. due to the fact that i thought selling my bmw and buying one of these cars and coming to this site would get me away from all this mass ***** world stuff. cool idea i just think it will sound like a more powerfull honda

 

I hate seeing those on any car and they sound just as bad.

 

Bad idea I guess. Forget I mentioned it!

 

IMO, those ***** Muffer, aka fart cans, would look horrible on 3gen fbody. Hell, I think they look horrible on the ricers too.

I don't think it will sound like those ***** cars if you have a V8. I think it would sound like you have Dynomax bullet muffler. If you want that splaty bright sound, you could install Bullet mufflers and you would not have that ugly fart can hanging out the bottom.

But then again, that just my opinion. If you like that look and if that’s your taste, its your car and do what you want with it. What ever makes you happy is what counts. Besides, if you get too much s*** from your friends on how bad they think it looks, you can always pay another visit the muffler shop and have the amputated like a tumor.

 

I bet they would sound nice....

Everybody is under the assumption that an exahust system will sound EXACTLY the same no matter what engine it's connected to......

As far as how they would look, can't say that i would like it......

 

If I would install them, they would be tucked up neatly under the bumper. The only part sticking out would be the tip.

I respect everyones opinion, but I was hoping I could get some pics. I know it might not be pretty, but I didn't want to form an opinion without actually seeing it. From the responses we're getting here, I assume nobody has tried it though. Everyone is just assuming that it would look awful (and maybe it would).

 

i always wondered what a single street bike exhaust would sound like on a v8. i would never put one on but i bet it would sound like a ferrari ...lol

 

hah....I wish my car sounded like a ferrari....Maybee I should just buy a ferrari instead?

 

Nothing except a Ferrari sounds like a Ferrari.

 

Not true, I can stick a Ferrari engine in my 90 Formy and it will sound like a Ferrari.

 

If you like it, I say go for it. Everyone else is basing their opinions on what they see in the import scene, and I honestly think that has nothing to do with our cars. I mean, do you really think a certain type of muffler makes your car "r*ce"? Maybe if you thought it added 200hp and makes you run 10's, then yeah, but other than that, its just a car part. As long as its functional, I dont see the problem. I mean, "r*cers" put racing seats in their cars. If you put a racing seat in your 3rd gen, does that make it "r*ce" too? I dont think so.

So how is your exhaust setup? Do you have 1 downpipe or 2? For my twin setup, I will be running 2 downpipes, and I've been contemplating running exhaust parts from Japan. Essentially, it will be like having 2 4cyl setups, each side with its own muffler. My current downpipes are 2.5", but I'm thinking about having some custom 3.5" ones made. Not really sure though ...

All the exhaust parts from Japan are in millimeters, so you'll have to do the conversion. Just match the inlet size to your downpipe size and you should be good to go. Japan exhaust parts do have some advantages when compared to the American exhaust parts. Some of the Japan parts are availiable in Titanium, which can save a lot of weight (no American Exhaust manufacturers offer this). Japan exhaust manufacturer R&D guys also spend a lot of time with their exhaust parts on boosted cars, whereas the American exhaust R&D guys spend their time on N/A. I dont have any facts to back this up, but I believe the Japan stuff is better for boosted applications since all their R&D is done on boosted cars.

As for the looks, well it all depends. I've always thougt that ANY tips that just hang under the stock rear bumper look bad. If you were to cut some indentations in the rear bumper, and fit the tips flush, I think it would look 10 times better. If you did go with these style mufflers, you could also play around with angling the muffler outward or upward (not something you'd want to do with regular tips you'd see on a Camaro). When I do my setup, I'm considering running dual titanium Japan mufflers under the car. Since I dont like tips by my bumper, I'm going to mount the mufflers under the car and they will be hidden. I've had my eyes on the Veilside Teardrop Titanium's. These are usually run on Supras, which are inline 3.0ltr 6's, in a single 90mm application. Considering my boosted motor (377ci) will be around 6ltrs, two of them should match well with my setup.

Thats my (probably unwanted) .02

 

Those mufflers actually give more power then most mufflers that domestic guys use. I had a HKS Hiper Turbo muffler on my car before that I installed on the flowmaster 3" piping. e/t's went down and the mph went up. FLowmasters are only good mufflers for sound...and thats about it. If you want power FM is crap in my opinion.

As for looks...its all personal opinion..personally I like the look of the muffler and think if you like it you should go with it. Personally though I think that a camaro shoudl have some huge mufflers in the back though. Considering that the car is pretty large...so anything smaller then a HKS turbo hiper or maybe a Apexi Turbo may look a little to small.

 

like i said long ago. it will sound nice and raspy. if you dont want people to see it put the muffler right after the cat. i imagine its going to be just a little bit bigger.

 

o by the way crazy corsica has titanium exhaust. the zo6 corvettes can be ordered with titanium exhaust. i know lighten custom makes them. dont know how much but i bet its not cheap

 

I say go for it. You may like it. I saw an old 69 camaro in a Super Chevy mag that had 2 of them under the rear and it was kinda cool. I believe the caption for one of the pictures read something along the lines of : Those stainless steel mufflers usually found under wanna-be hondas give the big block a unique exhaust note. Something along those lines, and it looked good...

 

I'm sure people are sick of seeing this but, this is basically what 2 "import" mufflers would look like under the rear bumper.. they aren't shiney and don't have ungodly sized tips (because I made them) and the last thing they had was a 'raspy' sound... overkill muffled bass tone on coasting down was the biggest problem (which led to me making a new setup). Other than that, they had a smooth tone (though much more ballsy) like a certain vehicle line which I won't mention..

 

Thanks Crazy and REVLIMIT. We finally have what sounds like a serious conversation going on here.

I was also thinking this would give me a power improvement over the crossflow style FM mufflers. When I run the exhaust thru both turbochargers and a flowmaster (80 series I think) muffler, the car literally sounds like it is strangling. I want to have the V8 rumble and the turbo whistle. I put and electric Q-tech cut-out on in place of the converter and when opened up, you can really here the turbine whistle, but the engine rumble sounds like a large exhaust leak, not a deep throaty burble.

I too seen the 69 Camaro mentioned with the import style mufflers. That is actually what gave me the idea originally.

Its also funny that Crazy mentioned angling the exhaust upward- you see this a lot on super high performance 300ZXs, and it looks awesome. The quality of most of these sport compact mufflers is stunning, and worth showing off a little (but don't get me wrong- too much visible is just awful).

My exhaust as of now is as follows:
-stock manifolds modified to mount twin turbos
-two 2.5" downpipes, one from each turbo
-homemade 3" y-pipe
-Q-tech electric cut-out
-2 3/4" pipe to a crossflow flowmaster, dual 3" SS tailpipes

You see dual 3" pipes a lot of 3rd gens. I guess that is because it looks good, but my car is different, and therefore I would like a unique muffler system.

Again, thanks all for the input!

 

deadbird- I really like your exhaust too. How does it sound? Do you have a link containing more info? Thanks.

 

This is the original setup I did (piced in the previous post)..

http://www.deadbird.org/journal/arti...2&vjob=vsub,40

And what I currently have...

http://www.deadbird.org/swin/index.php?showtopic=9

The sound of both is solid and smoothe. I changed from the original because the bass tone of the 'bullets' was much more than I wanted. What I have currently is near perfect in tone, but, still a bit loud fopr my personal preference. I will be making a lager cased dual in/out eventually with a little larger case. That should bring down the light/mid thottle volume down to nearly exact what I want. WOT is a just ***** out no muffler sound w/o the 'it fell off '76 farm pickup, ragged 305, exhaust pipe fell off ragged tone'.
But, that's just my opinion... you could PM Pillsbry10 and ask him how my car sounds since I took him for a ride in it when it had the 'bullets' on it.

 

This is similar to what I had in mind, but with the polished stainless casing and tips. Thanks deadbird.

 

ugh.

i got about halfway thru the sound part before i couldnt take it anymore...



V motors have a "blat" to them and are deeper. inline motors have a buzz


this is why a harley gos blat, and a I4 crotchrocket goes zing.

this is why a honda with a glasspack (aka fartcan, aka bullet) goes buzz, while a V8 with it sounds like a bullet.

because a bullet is a glasspack is a fart can and they're the same damn thing.



the motor makes the noise, not the muffler. your 305, even with longtubes and a badass cam will never sound like a 350 or 400 or big block... simply because it has a tiny bore.

your stock motor without headers doesnt sound like a stock motor with.. there will be a large loudness diff.


so not only is "good sound" dependant on the person, but two cars with minor diffs sound diffrently.


THIS IS WHY TBI 305 OWNERS GO "ohhhh thats too quiet" WHILE 406 soild roller guys are saying "thats too loud for the street" with the same exhaust.

THE MOTOR MAKES THE SOUNDS NOT THE MUFFLER.




all that said.

i think it'll look stupid, but sound ok.



if it was me, id stick the bullet in the I pipe "a-la loudmouth" and just point the exhaust out the back with no tips so you cant see it. same sound either way...

 

Apparently nobody has read this guys sig.
I might be the only one who feels this way but I think TURBOS on a thirdgen gives one the freedom to do a little experimentation without ridicule.

Not to beat a dead horse but I see no reason why It wouldnt look and sound fine.

I will say one thing. There is no shortage of opinions around here. (ha ha after I just gave mine)

 

Oooohh, turbos.... I'm beginning to look a bit green here... Seriously, it's your car, and you don't have to look like everyone else. As long as YOU like it and it does what you want it to, then fine by me. Post some pics when it's done, too.

 

Not true. If you took the same exhaust system and put it on a 305 and a 400 they would both sound the same. It has nothing to do with the bore. My 305 has a deep sound @ part throttle but would blow peoples ear drums out if they were within 30 feet of it at WOT. My 305 is almost too loud. I definately get off the gas when I pass buy a cop.

 

well, not entirely true, the ferrari's go buzz more than blat. and they are a V motor, although a flat-crank V.

it has to do with SO many factors it is unreal. you really can't generalise.

back on topic....

i have a friend who runs long-tubes, true duals, with an X pipe, and sport compact muffler, i REALLY like the sound of his car. it has a very nice tone to it.

 

Would you be able to snap some pics of how the car looks from the rear with those mufflers? I would love to see it before I decide.

 

My buddy has a 97 LT1 4th gen and he had tsudo cannon's on his and it was loud, sounded bad ***, not like a **** rocket at all it had tone to it and you defentily heard the cam.