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Header questions
If i were to buy some headers for my car, would they simply bolt right on? Or would I need to fabricate in order to get all the stock o2 sensors and everything else to hook up to the headers. I'm looking at a pair of headers but if i gotta get all that stuff fabricated then screw that.
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As long as you buy a set of hedders for V8 3rd ges they will bolt right up. You may have to drill out the 02 (only one) bung but the threaded part will already be welded on. The only real difference between the hedder kits for our cars are how they connect to the y-pipe and whether that have provisions for AIR or not. There may be some simple fab work there depending on what set you go with.
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If you have AC and a bracket that bolts to both exhaust manifold bolts for the front cylinder, all headers require modification of that bracket (cutting off one leg). Not really a big deal.
Headers modify what the factory did. There will be some little hassles. And perhaps a few frustrations. But, in this little hobby of ours, we weigh the results against those little things and go have some fun at it.
Headers modify what the factory did. There will be some little hassles. And perhaps a few frustrations. But, in this little hobby of ours, we weigh the results against those little things and go have some fun at it.
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but the problem is when i want to get ready to sell this car i want to return it to her stock original appreance, cutting parts and putting holes in such in my car isn't gonna happen
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Originally posted by 89IROCCVRT
but the problem is when i want to get ready to sell this car i want to return it to her stock original appreance, cutting parts and putting holes in such in my car isn't gonna happen
but the problem is when i want to get ready to sell this car i want to return it to her stock original appreance, cutting parts and putting holes in such in my car isn't gonna happen
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well, i want my vert to be a daily driver during the summer but yet be able to get up and go too, but when i wanna cell it, i've always seen on those car auctions on tv, the more exact it was when it came off the show room floor, the more the car is worth
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Originally posted by 89IROCCVRT
well, i want my vert to be a daily driver during the summer but yet be able to get up and go too, but when i wanna cell it, i've always seen on those car auctions on tv, the more exact it was when it came off the show room floor, the more the car is worth
well, i want my vert to be a daily driver during the summer but yet be able to get up and go too, but when i wanna cell it, i've always seen on those car auctions on tv, the more exact it was when it came off the show room floor, the more the car is worth
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but in a decade or so i bet it'll be worth quite a bit, in a way its a collectors car, an IROC a special edition car, just like the SS camaros will be worth a lot, thats just my belief anyways
shiftycapone, what model headers do you have? you said you didn't have to modify anything, so u simply unbolted the old manifolds and bolted the headers up to the block and to the y-pipe?? you also said something about how the manifolds bolt to the y-pipe is what we have to worry about when buying headers for our cars...what do i have to look for?? how many bolt holes or something of that sort?
shiftycapone, what model headers do you have? you said you didn't have to modify anything, so u simply unbolted the old manifolds and bolted the headers up to the block and to the y-pipe?? you also said something about how the manifolds bolt to the y-pipe is what we have to worry about when buying headers for our cars...what do i have to look for?? how many bolt holes or something of that sort?
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Don't count on the value going up. You would also need to park it and not drive it daily. The old muscle cars are going way up value because baby boomers are going after them. The high dollar ones are also meticulously restored or incredibly low mileage.
Mod it if you like. Just keep the original parts. If you need to modify anything, you can go to a junkyard and get a replacement for the future and store it with everything else. You might be able to sell it in the future to someone who wants headers.
Modify it and enjoy it.
Mod it if you like. Just keep the original parts. If you need to modify anything, you can go to a junkyard and get a replacement for the future and store it with everything else. You might be able to sell it in the future to someone who wants headers.
Modify it and enjoy it.
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very good point copperhead, very good point
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Originally posted by 89IROCCVRT
shiftycapone, what model headers do you have? you said you didn't have to modify anything, so u simply unbolted the old manifolds and bolted the headers up to the block and to the y-pipe?? you also said something about how the manifolds bolt to the y-pipe is what we have to worry about when buying headers for our cars...what do i have to look for?? how many bolt holes or something of that sort?
shiftycapone, what model headers do you have? you said you didn't have to modify anything, so u simply unbolted the old manifolds and bolted the headers up to the block and to the y-pipe?? you also said something about how the manifolds bolt to the y-pipe is what we have to worry about when buying headers for our cars...what do i have to look for?? how many bolt holes or something of that sort?
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i was thinking of saving up and buying hooker 2055s but only if no modding is needed
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The 2055's are intended for your application. Of all the people who have to do modifications to get them to fit, you're one with the least.
I can't imagine your car being worth more with the stock exhaust than with headers. Even in 10 years.
Maybe in 50 years.
I can't imagine your car being worth more with the stock exhaust than with headers. Even in 10 years.
Maybe in 50 years.
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i'm not saying they will be worth more with or without, i'm just saying i've always seen that the stocker the car is and in great condition, the more it is worth if you tried to resell it
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so the AIR tubes would hook right up on hooker 2055s?
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