i have heard some people saying there is a y-pipe for the hooker 2460, now i am not sure what to do. i need an entire new exhaust system from the headers back, and by some of the reviews about this y and the money factor, i think i will try my luck with dual 2.5. what do you think?

 

I think your stock system is better than the 2460 y-pipe they're offering. It's made for the low-po LG4/LO3 systems.

Forget 2460's. Get 2055's if you're getting shorties, Hedman long-tubes if you're going duals.

 

but i already got the 2460's on there

 

Then spend the excessive $'s on the y-pipe and have a shop cut off everything past the "Y", and adapt it to your current exhaust.

Or, have a competent shop build a good-flowing y-pipe for you. Reports aren't very glowing about that process.

You made a mistake buying the 2460's (in my personal opinion, of course). You can either continue spending more money getting it close to right, or put something on that works and get what you can out of the 2460's.

 

but if i go duals then its not so bad right

 

yah, my shop did a CRAP job on my ypipe.. i told him i wanted 2.5 to 3" all mandrel bent.. he said sure!.. its really crappy 2.25 to 2.5 pinch bent, and he used old pipe that was already bent in a couple places very restricively.. im going to have another one made next year.... damn 2460's....

 

pretty much the only good thing i have heard anyone say about the 2460's is how they fit beautifully, other than that everyone bashes them.

I have come down to a dilemma. On a short short budget, i am either going to try to get someone to put dual 2.5 on with the best clearance we can get, or have to spend money to get a y-pipe made and go 3 " single with the dual outlet flowmaster.
Now i realize everyone says single signle single is the only way to go, but those people probably didn't have to get a y-pipe made, which is my biggest concern.
Now can anyone offer me advice, i have heard something about getting a new crossmember that will allow dual, is this true? and besides the 2 mufflers, what else do i need for a dual setup?(X pipes?etc)
If i go single 3 inch, besides y-pipe, what else do i need, just piping and muffler? NO catback, not intersted!

 

i cannot justify spending more on the freakin y-pipe than what i paid for the headers, its insane! especially when in the end this is all for a single exhaust, not dual. to me it feels like im spending twice as much for a VCR than half for a DVD. (like that little comparison)

 

i know how you feel... same thing except i got 2.5 inch down pipes and the pass downpipe bends towards the cat and the drivers runs into it like a Y which aint bad but after that it bends for that final turn to the cat and its a pinch bend and i swear its very restrictive... i can almost wrap my hand around it its a 2.5 but bent so it got tiny ...

 

Have your factory y-pipe modified to fit up to the headers - modification to two pipes only. L69 was one of the better exhaust put on 3rd gens.

 

i dont think my factory y-pipe is usable, its too bad.

 

Well, back to the drawing board, then.

You're making a very good case for getting 2055's. It still might be your least expensive option.

 

i cant just get rid of the 2460's, they are brand new and i coundt afford it. im thinking ill go with single 3", and i suppose i will get a y-pipe made. i will tell them the y-pipe must be all 3". how much do you think this will cost. its by a good name shop, not just a private one.

 

The only part of the y-pipe that needs to be 3" is after the two downpipes come together. The individual downpipes from each collector only need to be 2-1/2".

I would not go to a "name" shop like Midas. They'll give you shrunken bends, poor welds, and Tee'd joints (rather than a "Y"). Your chances of getting a good job increase dramatically with a private, independant shop. Something like a Flowmaster "Y" would be a good part to hand to them to get the job started right (unless they have such stock available to them).

Reports on costs vary from $75 (one person in Omaha, NE), to over $400 for a very poor job, with $250 - $350 the most common. Haven't heard anyone say lately, you may have to pay more.

Cut your losses - remove and return/sell the 2460's, and get 2055's.

(Never mind, you've already said you aren't going to do that.)

 

im hoping not to pay that damn much! nah its not a chain store like midas, its like a private exhaust place that kind of went big just in my area, so they should be good. i think ill be ok, i hope

 

Good luck. Let us know what they tell you.

 

for 320 a muffler shop bought a 3 inch intermediate pipe welded on MY muffler My cat and made me a y pipe and put it all on

 

i askied about single and dual,well i checked a couple of shops, one told me they coudn't bend the 3" piping around the wheels housing, another said they would charge 300$ a side with dual (600$ total) not including the mufflers. another said they could make the y-pipe but dont know how much the rest will cost, they threw 600 at me, i do not want to spend this much, is it this expensive for everyone? taking into consideration canadian dollar.

 

five7kid - by all of my reading the 2460s really aren't that bad...am I missing something? You seem to be very against them - and I thought they were very similar to the 2055s.

 

hey joel_157 i have a set of 2460 headers AND y pipe for sale. PM me if your intrested.

 

five7?

 

he doesnt like them for a couple of reasons

1. Thicker gauge metal = slightly less flowing room on the inside (all primary measurements are O.D.)
2. Do not come with a y-pipe
3. The collectors point in odd places, which makes fabricating a y-pipe a pain in the ***

I dont think its that five7kid doesnt like the headers, its just that the 2055's are better in that they

1. Have a slightly thinner gauge metal
2. Can be ordered with a really good y-pipe

Is that about right, five7?

 

guess that makes sense. I got a set of 2460s used for a good price and was going to order the y-pipe for 'em - until I started reading up on things. When a moderator is not saying anything good about the 2460s, I started to reconsider my plans.

Just to make things clear - does the 2460 y pipe from hooker meet up with the collectors and rectify the whole pointing in odd places thing? Does this abnormal pointing affect anything other than y-pipe fabrication?

Thanks for the help!

 

well, its not THAT bad of a misdirection, I just remember my exhaust guy going SOB when he saw them.. but he is a dumbass (look up in this thread a little bit, and u will see my explaination of his y-pipe work)

The y-pipe from Hooker, from what i know, is a good product, it just costs $200 and you would need to have it cut off right after where the two pipes merge and have 3" mandrel to either the cat(if you have one) or to the rest of your catback . So it will end up costing 250-300 if you go the hooker way...

 

wow...thats a load of cash for having to cut something up. Maybe I'll try and sell these things.

 

Yah.. i should have not gotten mine when i did... should have just gotten the 2055's. I was originally going to go with dual exhaust, but that was a bust.... But at least they are ceramic coated... i wouldnt go any other way.

 

ok, will 2.5 single be enough flow for me. my engine isn't really built, it was rebuilt and bored 30 over and had the performance oversized psitons in it, other than that and the hooker headers is i think oem parts. will single 2.5 and a performancre muffler be ok for me?

 

That about covers it. (Sorry, I wasn't able to get on the Board over the weekend.)

It will be a downgrade from the stock L69 exhaust.

 

it will be a downgrade. this guy is telling me that the difference in price b/w 2.5 and 3 is crazy. and he said the place where the pip goes over the rearend or whatever is really tricky with 3 because he siad there is like only an inch to play around. he siad he will have to order most of the 3 inch. he said he can make a y-pipe for about 150-200, i think thats not to bad. for a single 2.5 and the dual outlet muffler and all, he threw 1000$ of the top of his head, i don't think there is anyway i want to pay that especially for an exhaust that will downgrade the previous. ill just tell him i want 3 and it should not be that much. ill show him a freakin catback price from hooker which isnt near that price. i dunno, i guess ill figure it out..............

 

.....time to find a new exhaust guy... If he can make a GOOD y-pipe... 2.5 to 3, then have him make it and get a hooker 3" catback (or whatever brand u want.. just not Edelbrock) Cause, honestly, my exhaust guy, even tho he sucked, charged me $40 to hang my hooker catback

HOK-16823HKR for an example (on summit) $269

 

whereas my car is the HO L69 engine, which catback will be best? the HOK-16822HKR?

 

im not using a catalyic converter at all, so what problems will arise from this, my y-pipe will be custom made so im assuming he should have the cat back system when he goes to make it.

 

The application for the cat-back won't matter, as long as it is 3". So, just get the least expensive one that meets that requirement.

He can then attach the fabricated y-pipe, with 2.5" downpipes to 3" where they "Y" together, to the 3" cat-back. $200 for the y-pipe sounds okay, if built that way. Don't count on it being mandrel bent. Ask him for specifics what he is going to use or how he is going to form the "Y", consider the Flowmaster part if a "T" is the best he can manage.

 

well he said get the catback kit to him and he will make the y-pipe, i will make sure he uses 2.5 then merge them into the 3". so when i buy a catback and plan on not using a cat, will i be missing anything or complicating it?

 

He'll just have to extend the y-pipe about 21 inches.

He should also use a hanger where the cat used to be, comes off the transmission tailshaft stock.

 

he will have to extend it 21 inches? what will he use just a piece of 3" pipe? i still have the 3" to 2.5 reducers i bought when i was planning to go dual, will they work in this situation since my downpipes are 2.5", will that take some off the 21" or will they not apply?

 

also, how do the muflers sound on the hooker catback systems? i just ordered mine 20 minutes ago

 

Yes, 21" more of 3" pipe.

I doubt the reducers will help any, but you can take them with you just in case.

The only Hooker cat-back I've heard was a recording on this board. I played it on the computer at home, I didn't realize my wife was listening. She asked how I managed to record my car on the computer.

So much for Hooker and Flowmaster sounding so different.

I think you'll like the sound. I'm thinking about getting a pair of Hooker mufflers for the 396.

 

i'll post a sound bit of it tomorrow if i can.

 

what website should i go to for hosting these sound files?

 

Meh, Here is a short one right when i started it up (it idles high right off the bat)
Here is one a minute later with a rev or two (still cold, as u can tell)

 

i have always thought dual exhaust sounds better, but after listening to your clip i hope mine sounds like that. it should sound pretty much the same shouldnt it?

 

roughly.. my y-pipe is pretty dumpy (when i get a new one made this spring im hoping it will improve the sound a little bit). It depends on the a lot of factors, but thats what it should basically sound like.. post a clip when you get it all installed

and trust me, if i had the money, i would be running dual 2.5" exhaust (with an h-pipe) in stock routing.. but having a GOOD shop do it where its not gonna knock around would cost me a small fortune.. if i get higher up on the power scale, then i may do that some day...

 

great just great. i got my exhaust done and back and the guy butchored it. he used 2.5 for the y-pipe ( its like not even a real good pipe cuz it doesnt like merge together he kind of cut a whole in one downpipe and just welded the other pipe into it. and in place of the catalyic converter he used another length of 2.5 pipe not 3, then it goes through the cat back system. and even better yet, i have like 3.5 inches of clearance, and better yet the tailpipes with the tips are not hanging good and close to the bumper, they are like lower.
even though it still sounds ok, what is this gonna do to me?

 

yep, thats a butcher job alright.. a y-pipe is NOT supposed to be put together like that.. and ****, my y-pipe sux, but at least its all tucked up and i have good ground clearance.. here is a pic, and it may look in it that one tip is down, but its just a bad angle.. the tips were right up close to the bumper..

 

well mine looks like that i guess, but the kit only came with one muffler hanger and there is a little play in the side that doesnt.

any more pics????????????

 

Here's a pic of a poorly made y-pipe for the 2460 headers. I just took this off the Camaro to make way for the proper y-pipe now made for the 2460 headers.

I had this sad excuse of a y-pipe made about 8 years ago before I knew any better! Just showing you all how poor of a job some exhaust shops are here in Hawaii. This was 8 years ago like I said, & shops aren't as bad now. But to get a really good custom exhaust done here, you have to "know" somebody, or have a car that the shop really likes.


If you can't read the ruler.......it reads at 2 inches!

 

Here's a comparison pic of the old y-pipe with the new one!

 

hey thats my y pipe

 

Haha! I was wondering when you would notice Thanks again man!