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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 01:18 PM
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How do you feel about flowtech's????

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BIG-11116FLT/

I found these and was wondering if anyone has any experience with the fit and such on them?
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

Good:
-Cheap
-Fairly good fit

Bad:
-Only 1.5" primaries
-Poor Y pipe design
-Variable quality control
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

i have them. they fit great and are a great improvement over stock.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 04:00 PM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

Originally Posted by Apeiron
Good:
-Cheap
-Fairly good fit

Bad:
-Only 1.5" primaries
-Poor Y pipe design
-Variable quality control
They are really cheap but yes they are small and no 3 in collector also.
Anyone know a good cheap shorty or longtube that works with a t5 and y pipe, I would buy headmans but no one makes a y pipe and they need mods to the collector.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:51 PM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

Originally Posted by david068513
I would buy headmans but no one makes a y pipe and they need mods to the collector.
Hedman makes a Y pipe for their headers.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

Originally Posted by Apeiron
Hedman makes a Y pipe for their headers.
I was talking about the longtubes.. I didn't know they made one though.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 11:53 PM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

Then no, there are no off-the-shelf Y pipes for Hedman long-tubes. Stick with the shortys anyway, there's no advantage to long-tubes on a street car that makes up for the disadvantages.
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 07:29 AM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

Originally Posted by Apeiron
Then no, there are no off-the-shelf Y pipes for Hedman long-tubes. Stick with the shortys anyway, there's no advantage to long-tubes on a street car that makes up for the disadvantages.
If built right there are no disadvantages.. Plus the long tubes are cheaper then the shortys. Longtubes will make more power... I prefer longtube headers always.
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 08:19 AM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

Come back and tell us there are no disadvantages after you've put a set on a thirdgen, especially one with an automatic.

Even if you built it right and managed to lose no ground clearance (next to impossible with an automatic), the fabrication hassle to do so is a disadvantage. The power gains, if any, aren't all that substantial and don't make up for it. Long-tubes will get you bragging rights, but that's about it.
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 08:56 AM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

Originally Posted by Apeiron
Come back and tell us there are no disadvantages after you've put a set on a thirdgen, especially one with an automatic.

Even if you built it right and managed to lose no ground clearance (next to impossible with an automatic), the fabrication hassle to do so is a disadvantage. The power gains, if any, aren't all that substantial and don't make up for it. Long-tubes will get you bragging rights, but that's about it.
I thought the t5 would be harder with the y pipe and longtubes cause you have to modify the collectors etc. I will be putting longtubes on my auto car but this thread is about my 5 speed car.

What are the best bang for the buck shorty headers? Something cheap, flows good, and has a good y pipe with good clearance then?
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 09:06 AM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

Hooker 2210s are long-tubes and clear the slave cylinder just fine.

The problem with long-tubes isn't even the header, it's the rest of the exhaust system. The collectors dump up between the frame rails, so you have to run tubing under the frame rails to get it to the back of the car. There aren't many ways to do this without losing ground clearance. With a manual transmission, you can run the pipes back inside the rails on either side of the trans and build a new transmission crossmember to clear the pipes and keep the loss to a minimum. The body of an automatic is too wide for this. There's no room between the trans and the frame, so the only way to do it would be to cut up the frame rails.
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

Who knows the part numner of the long tube swept headers that run in front of the oil pand and the pass side sweeps along the starter, the 2 combined run just like the stock system, along the passenger side. Was it a hooker or hedman header? I swear it was a hooker but can't seem to find them. They were full length, 3" collectors, 1-5/8 primaries.
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

I can't find them right now either. I thought they were only 1 1/2" primaries though.
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

Originally Posted by Apeiron
Hooker 2210s are long-tubes and clear the slave cylinder just fine.

The problem with long-tubes isn't even the header, it's the rest of the exhaust system. The collectors dump up between the frame rails, so you have to run tubing under the frame rails to get it to the back of the car. There aren't many ways to do this without losing ground clearance. With a manual transmission, you can run the pipes back inside the rails on either side of the trans and build a new transmission crossmember to clear the pipes and keep the loss to a minimum. The body of an automatic is too wide for this. There's no room between the trans and the frame, so the only way to do it would be to cut up the frame rails.
Intresting...
Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
Who knows the part numner of the long tube swept headers that run in front of the oil pand and the pass side sweeps along
the starter, the 2 combined run just like the stock system, along the passenger side. Was it a hooker or hedman header? I swear it was a hooker but can't seem to find them. They were full length, 3" collectors, 1-5/8 primaries.
Never seen these.. Would like too.
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

Eddlebrock tes headers?
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

I just took in a set of Flowtech shorties in on trade. Thinking of using them on my 305 when I do the V8 swap. What Y-pipe do you use with these?
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 11:38 PM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

The one they come with, usually.
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

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The one they come with, usually.
Mine didnt, but then again I got it used. You know if you can buy just the ypipe?
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

Looks like it... http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BIG-11102YFLT/
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

im currently running flowtech shortys on my 355 T-5 with their matching y-pipe which flows through 2 inline chambered mufflers out a single exit (infont of the pass. tire), dual tip pipe and i must say, i have a ton of low end torque, not to mention, the car has a sound coming out of it that scares even the newer generation muscle cars. in fact, id give alot of credit to the exhaust for my light to light win against an 07 Mustang GT a few months back. just my 2 cents.
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 10:11 PM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

Well I've been running these with the Y pipe for 2 years now. I'm Running a 350/auto combo and they do make a decent gain in power over Stock. But having said that the fitment is poor on the Y section. Plus its not really a Y, the passenger side just T's in with the Driver side, so flow isnt really all that great. Mine came Painted black as did the Y and both are very rusty. It didnt take 6 months for the paint to bake off of both, so i would suggest some Coating or Header paint before install. For the price though overall they are good.....not great but good.
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 07:05 AM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

I like the cleaner look of the hedman 68470's I have. they fit and sound good. I just dont like the way the flowtechs have the one tube bend up and over.
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 08:44 AM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

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I like the cleaner look of the hedman 68470's I have. they fit and sound good. I just dont like the way the flowtechs have the one tube bend up and over.
You mean the ones I sold you? Lmao
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

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You mean the ones I sold you? Lmao
Oh hell yeah. I had them blasted and now I am curing the VHT paint. They look good.
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

Originally Posted by kd5icr
Oh hell yeah. I had them blasted and now I am curing the VHT paint. They look good.
Cool! Glad you got use out of them. They sat for a few years lol. I think I'm gonna go longtube on both my cars Now.
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

I've got them with the matching Y-pipe. Noticed a pretty big difference over stock. I had to splice out a section of the Y-pipe right below the center of the engine cause it was too wide. Had to have an exhaust shop weld it back together. Came with black paint, that I removed with paint stripper and re coated with high temp paint. Been about 6 months and no rust on them yet...
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 07:34 AM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

You're gonna wanna eyeball the inside of the passenger side Ypipe flange. Mine was really poorly cut, big ol' overhang of metal where they just punched a 2" opening through the pipe and welded the flange on afterward. It could really use some cleaning up.
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 08:10 AM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

I used to have those headers and they were pretty good. For $100 I had a muffler shop fab the y-pipe, no need to fight with the pre-made y. The best thing about these headers is the ability to change all the spark plugs from the top. The only plug you will have a problem with is #6, but its not too bad lol.
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Old Dec 30, 2010 | 08:35 PM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

My flowtech's had a hole in one of them when I bought them new.(poor welds)
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Old Dec 30, 2010 | 08:46 PM
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Re: How do you feel about flowtech's????

Haven't used a set of flowtechs in a thirdgen but I have installed them in several other cars. Fit has actually been surprisingly good, but material is thinner and their paint quality is pretty much awful.
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