Exhaust Post your questions and suggestions about stock or aftermarket exhaust setups. Third Gen exhaust sound files and videos!

Installing Aftermarket Headers

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 21, 2011 | 10:41 PM
  #1  
GAboy92's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: North Georgia
Car: 1992 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9 305 TPI
Transmission: Auto, sadly
Installing Aftermarket Headers

Hey guys,
I'm thinking about installing headers on my 92 Z28 to replace my less- than- desirable factory exhaust manifolds. I've never done this on a 3rd gen, so if anyone has any advice on what headers to buy or some tips on how to actually install them that would be really helpful. I don't have much garage equipment other than ramps so please help me find the part that can get me the max performance for its simplicity.
Thanks y'all.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2011 | 02:45 PM
  #2  
HawkZ28's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 557
Likes: 15
From: Lincoln, NE
Car: 86 Z28
Engine: Built 312
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 3.42
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

Welcome to the board. Check out the sticky's at the top of this section- lots of answers are in those.

Set aside plenty of time. If you have an option of purchasing a Y pipe with the headers, get it. Use air, have cheater bars, and plenty of PB blaster and beverages handy for any help that shows up. Hit the bolts with the PB blaster the night prior, and again before you start.

Plan on getting a new set of plug wires with 90* boots and/or boot protectors, and spending money on heat sheathing for your starter, fuel lines, etc depending on the proximity in relation to the headers. First time I did them I had to get a new oil dipstick tube, too- the mount was 'fused' to the bolt in the manifold. If you can't weld, plan on spending some money at the exhaust shop getting the Y pipe welded up/fabricated. As far as gaskets go, get copper or aluminum. Throw the ones away that come with them- the paper/asbestos ones suck.

Hope that helps you out.
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2011 | 04:56 PM
  #3  
GAboy92's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: North Georgia
Car: 1992 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9 305 TPI
Transmission: Auto, sadly
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

Thanks for the help- I didn't know I needed the heat shielding- that wouldve killed me. It looks like Summit Racing has a good package with the y pipe and gaskets so I think I should be good on that front
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2011 | 06:32 PM
  #4  
DiabloWS6's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 699
Likes: 1
From: San Fernando valley-Lancaster,CA
Car: '86 TRANS-AM WS6
Engine: 1989 355 TPI L98
Transmission: TH700R-4
Axle/Gears: BorgWarner 9 bolt/ 3.27
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

in still in the process of finishing up my header install i had to remove the steering short shaft on the driver side to get it in and remove the valve cover and that was it for the driver side on the passenger side i had to remove the a/c pump and the starter and calve cover a real tight fit and a 90 degree elbow for my fan temp switch that goes on the side of the passenger head once everything is in just like bolt in fit i will take the headers out and ceramic coat them
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2011 | 11:12 PM
  #5  
el_muerte's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
From: Edmonton, AB
Car: '87 Z-28
Engine: LT1-topped 400
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

Shorty or mid-length headers will be easier to install and you get to keep your ground clearance, but it'll probably be more expensive to get a y-pipe fabricated for them if there isn't one available. If you decide on Hooker 2460s, plan to pay someone to make a y-pipe... IIRC theirs is only 2.5", which is silly since the headers have 3" collectors.

You will lose ground clearance with long tubes unless you modify your transmission crossmember, and long tubes may require other modifications in order to fit - I had to take about 3/8" from one side and 1/8" from the other side off of the a-arm mounts at the rear of the engine bay for my Heddmans to have clearance, as well as temporarily remove some pieces to install them. You'll have to lift the car a lot higher to install long tubes than shorties or mid-length headers, your ramps might not be high enough. If you wrap the headers you might not need a heat shield for the starter; mine suffers less heat soak now than it did with the stock manifolds.

Either way, include new plug wires in your budget. I'd strongly recommend universal wires with 90° ends, you cut them to fit perfectly and crimp the distributor end on... this lets you route them however you want, and I'd suggest underneath the header primary tubes, and up to the distributor between the #5 and 7 tubes, and between 6 and 8. You might need to get shorter spark plugs if the normal ones are too close to the headers.

Good luck and keep us posted.
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2011 | 04:20 PM
  #6  
GAboy92's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: North Georgia
Car: 1992 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9 305 TPI
Transmission: Auto, sadly
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

I've been looking at Hooker Shorty headers and I'm thinking those are what I will go with- I figure it's much easier to pay someone to make a y-pipe than adjusting my clearance
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2011 | 11:11 AM
  #7  
Ozz1967's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,795
Likes: 15
From: St. Cloud, MN
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LS1383 in work
Transmission: Magnum F - to be installed
Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

Originally Posted by GAboy92
I've been looking at Hooker Shorty headers and I'm thinking those are what I will go with- I figure it's much easier to pay someone to make a y-pipe than adjusting my clearance
Hooker 2055 headers are pretty much universally accepted on the site here as the best of the shorty headers. That's what I've got and they came with a y-pipe. Literally...bolt in, didn't have to move anything around or modify anything. Only issues i had were iwth my smog equipment, I had to disassemble it all to make room to get to all the bolts.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2014 | 07:18 PM
  #8  
petrarca0425's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Car: !986 Iroc-z
Engine: 305 corroborated
Transmission: T5 (manual)
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

Originally Posted by Ozz1967
Hooker 2055 headers are pretty much universally accepted on the site here as the best of the shorty headers. That's what I've got and they came with a y-pipe. Literally...bolt in, didn't have to move anything around or modify anything. Only issues i had were iwth my smog equipment, I had to disassemble it all to make room to get to all the bolts.


Hey, so I am thinking about putting headers and I have searched everywhere to find someone that could could answer my question. I have a 86 iroc tbi bone stock apart from ac compressor and I was thinking about headers and a custom y pipe. I want to keep it stock other than exhaust to free up some power. My main concern is to keep the check engine light from coming on.

When you remove the smog pump does it make the light come on?

Were you able to reconnect the smog pump after the headers were installed?

Do you know if it is even possible to get the headers in with out an engine code coming up?
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2014 | 07:44 PM
  #9  
Ozz1967's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,795
Likes: 15
From: St. Cloud, MN
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LS1383 in work
Transmission: Magnum F - to be installed
Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

Originally Posted by petrarca0425
Hey, so I am thinking about putting headers and I have searched everywhere to find someone that could could answer my question. I have a 86 iroc tbi bone stock apart from ac compressor and I was thinking about headers and a custom y pipe. I want to keep it stock other than exhaust to free up some power. My main concern is to keep the check engine light from coming on.

When you remove the smog pump does it make the light come on?

Were you able to reconnect the smog pump after the headers were installed?

Do you know if it is even possible to get the headers in with out an engine code coming up?
The only time you'll throw a code by removing the smog or air, is if you disconnect the EGR electrical connection.

I still have my EGR but have removed the smog pump and AIR Tube and I don't get a light at all.

So, to answer your questions in order:

1. Yes, and I have no light. Removing the smog pump doesn't make a light come on.

2. Yes, originally I did this but I pulled my smog pump when it froze up and am currently running a delete pulley. The ECM doesn't care if there is a smog pump. It's reading the signal the O2 sensor gives it. Keep that because you'll need it, otherwise you can ditch the smog pump, AIR tube and EGR valve itself. Just keep the EGR plug electrically connected.

3. Yes. The example I have is mine, however, you may need to re-tune it a bit because it may run a bit rich at times without the AIR and smog pump hooked up.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2014 | 09:18 PM
  #10  
petrarca0425's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Car: !986 Iroc-z
Engine: 305 corroborated
Transmission: T5 (manual)
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

will the 02 sensors bolt into the 2460 Hookers?

Here is the link of the headers I plan to buy.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ho...ro?prefilter=1
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2014 | 11:15 AM
  #11  
Ozz1967's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,795
Likes: 15
From: St. Cloud, MN
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LS1383 in work
Transmission: Magnum F - to be installed
Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

Originally Posted by petrarca0425
will the 02 sensors bolt into the 2460 Hookers?

Here is the link of the headers I plan to buy.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ho...ro?prefilter=1
Those particular headers do not support an O2 sensor.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2014 | 12:47 PM
  #12  
Dyno Don's Avatar
Supreme Member
25 Year Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 5,703
Likes: 132
From: Orange, CA
Car: '90 Trans Am-12.45@110.71
Engine: 355 w/AFR 195's Elem. 400/430 HP/TQ
Transmission: Tremec T-56
Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt 3.73
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

Originally Posted by Ozz1967
Hooker 2055 headers are pretty much universally accepted on the site here as the best of the shorty headers. That's what I've got and they came with a y-pipe.
For a little more you could have these:



They're a lot better than 2055's and are available with AIR tubes.

PM me for details
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2014 | 01:22 PM
  #13  
Ozz1967's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,795
Likes: 15
From: St. Cloud, MN
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LS1383 in work
Transmission: Magnum F - to be installed
Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

Originally Posted by Dyno Don
For a little more you could have these:



They're a lot better than 2055's and are available with AIR tubes.

PM me for details
I posted that before I even knew you made headers and everyone was talking about "hookers" (I bought mine in 2007) My next set will be ordered from you.
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2016 | 10:10 PM
  #14  
jfl1960's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

Originally Posted by Dyno Don
For a little more you could have these:



They're a lot better than 2055's and are available with AIR tubes.

PM me for details
I know this is an older thread but I am searching for suitable headers like these for a 1982 Camaro 350 with a T5 installed, I like using the OEM exhaust routing so if anyone can post a like to a supplier for these I would appreciate it, tried visiting Dyno Don's homepage from but it's a dead end.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2016 | 02:55 PM
  #15  
Ozz1967's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,795
Likes: 15
From: St. Cloud, MN
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LS1383 in work
Transmission: Magnum F - to be installed
Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

Originally Posted by jfl1960
I know this is an older thread but I am searching for suitable headers like these for a 1982 Camaro 350 with a T5 installed, I like using the OEM exhaust routing so if anyone can post a like to a supplier for these I would appreciate it, tried visiting Dyno Don's homepage from but it's a dead end.
Lon at Top Down Solutions has them.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2016 | 08:34 PM
  #16  
jfl1960's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

Thanks for the info, I will check them out.
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2016 | 01:42 PM
  #17  
Richard Cosner's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
From: Bethlehem, PA
Car: 1989 Pontiac TransAm GTA
Engine: 350
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

Originally Posted by Dyno Don
For a little more you could have these:



They're a lot better than 2055's and are available with AIR tubes.

PM me for details
Ressurecting an old thread again. My exhaust manifolds are all rusted and crappy looking. My AIR system has been disabled in my PROM so those parts are unneeded (actually a second question is, does that improve, decrease or do nothing to my performance).

I suppose I am looking for something like this. What kind of cost is involved with these?

Car: 1989 Pontiac Trans Am GTA 350 5.7l 8
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2019 | 05:09 PM
  #18  
Jefferyy baker's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

How do I take off the manifolds and put on headers? The skinny silver tubes coming out of the manifolds go to all kinds of rubber tubing. Plz help, I have a 92 camaro with a 305 v8.
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2019 | 05:27 PM
  #19  
HawkZ28's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 557
Likes: 15
From: Lincoln, NE
Car: 86 Z28
Engine: Built 312
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 3.42
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

Sounds like the AIR system. Just start pulling it. Then you can pull the manifolds. Don't over complicate it.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2019 | 12:09 AM
  #20  
thatsupnow's Avatar
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,198
Likes: 126
From: Armstrong B.C.
Car: 1991 camaro Z28
Engine: Forged 370" LS turbo s488
Transmission: Built 4L80e FTI converter
Axle/Gears: MWC 9" 35 spline 3.25 gears
Re: Installing Aftermarket Headers

Doug's long tubes. Awesome quality. Mine slipped right in without any issues
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Frozer!!!
Camaros for Sale
35
Jan 19, 2024 04:55 PM
Wesly_66
Exhaust
11
Aug 26, 2015 09:55 PM
nuggie
DFI and ECM
3
Aug 25, 2015 01:27 PM
theurge
TPI
7
Aug 21, 2015 12:46 PM
drathaar907
TPI
0
Aug 6, 2015 04:20 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:43 PM.