Taking out the AC
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Taking out the AC
Would it be possible, or work well to take the AC parts off and cut a sheet of metal to the same shape and screw it back on with the existing holes ?
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i dont have a dig camra. it looks like it came form the factory that way. the s10 heater boxes are fairly easy to find. the camaro/firebird ac delete box are almost impossable to find.
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Originally posted by gta007
i dont have a dig camra. it looks like it came form the factory that way. the s10 heater boxes are fairly easy to find. the camaro/firebird ac delete box are almost impossable to find.
i dont have a dig camra. it looks like it came form the factory that way. the s10 heater boxes are fairly easy to find. the camaro/firebird ac delete box are almost impossable to find.
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well i never plan on using the AC for one... and the only thing i can think i would really need and for the most part doesnt even work all that well is the defroster, way i figure it is, if you hot, down go the windows and off come the ttops, if your cold, windows up sweatshirt on..:rockon:
Originally posted by SydwayzTA 86
well i never plan on using the AC for one... and the only thing i can think i would really need and for the most part doesnt even work all that well is the defroster, way i figure it is, if you hot, down go the windows and off come the ttops, if your cold, windows up sweatshirt on..:rockon:
well i never plan on using the AC for one... and the only thing i can think i would really need and for the most part doesnt even work all that well is the defroster, way i figure it is, if you hot, down go the windows and off come the ttops, if your cold, windows up sweatshirt on..:rockon:
I couldn't agree more.
I know exactly what you are talking about and the answer is, yes you can fabricate something like that, but no one actually offers one that you can buy. If you go to BMRfabrication.com, they make them for the G-Body, but not for our cars. I asked them about making them for 3rd gens and they said the will take it up with their R&D department and get back to me.
I think it would be awesome to do (if you don't mind not having heat). It would clean the engine bay up a ton and give you a lot of room to mount things to the firewall.
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Oh my, looking through old pics from 2 years ago to see if I had anything in this topic;, my how times have changed
So excuse the old mess under the hood first of all and you can see the homemade box I did out of aluminum. That year I still wanted a heater, but needed maximum space for ease when changing plugs with the headers. I'm lucky since I have tons of coil stock laying around that I use to cap windows with and a break, so I put 2 and 2 together and 45min later I had a A/C delete box that worked great. It got the normal spray bomb treatment since the aluminum was white
very little space taken up and I got the max room possible while still retainging the heater. Again, I apologize for the mess, but that was awhile ago. Wish I had a front shot to show how tight it was kept and how much space was gained.
So excuse the old mess under the hood first of all and you can see the homemade box I did out of aluminum. That year I still wanted a heater, but needed maximum space for ease when changing plugs with the headers. I'm lucky since I have tons of coil stock laying around that I use to cap windows with and a break, so I put 2 and 2 together and 45min later I had a A/C delete box that worked great. It got the normal spray bomb treatment since the aluminum was white
very little space taken up and I got the max room possible while still retainging the heater. Again, I apologize for the mess, but that was awhile ago. Wish I had a front shot to show how tight it was kept and how much space was gained. Supreme Member
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picture...duh
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Well this isnt going to be mly driver, this is gonna be the time for a r.i.c.e rocket to learn his place car, or basically the weekend car.
IHI what did you use to make that ?
Rain and fogged windows do suck, but for whatever reason when its raining i like to have the windows cracked open a bit, air feels more fresh, with a cool breeze :lala: so that takes away my fog problem
IHI what did you use to make that ?
Rain and fogged windows do suck, but for whatever reason when its raining i like to have the windows cracked open a bit, air feels more fresh, with a cool breeze :lala: so that takes away my fog problem
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Originally posted by MCas7
I couldn't agree more.
I know exactly what you are talking about and the answer is, yes you can fabricate something like that, but no one actually offers one that you can buy. If you go to BMRfabrication.com, they make them for the G-Body, but not for our cars. I asked them about making them for 3rd gens and they said the will take it up with their R&D department and get back to me.
I think it would be awesome to do (if you don't mind not having heat). It would clean the engine bay up a ton and give you a lot of room to mount things to the firewall.
I couldn't agree more.
I know exactly what you are talking about and the answer is, yes you can fabricate something like that, but no one actually offers one that you can buy. If you go to BMRfabrication.com, they make them for the G-Body, but not for our cars. I asked them about making them for 3rd gens and they said the will take it up with their R&D department and get back to me.
I think it would be awesome to do (if you don't mind not having heat). It would clean the engine bay up a ton and give you a lot of room to mount things to the firewall.
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Originally posted by SydwayzTA 86
IHI what did you use to make that ?
IHI what did you use to make that ?
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When I lived in FLA. I could careless about The Ac and Heat its was a weekend only toy. no rainy days etc.
Now that Im in Ohio.. I picked up a Non-Ac heater box that is going back in. There are some Nice Days out when Its damm cold and heat would be nice for Defog get..
Now that Im in Ohio.. I picked up a Non-Ac heater box that is going back in. There are some Nice Days out when Its damm cold and heat would be nice for Defog get..
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Originally posted by IHI
I used the aluminum coil stock that is used to cap/cover the wood on homes when they are being sided or windows are being replaced. It's thin gauge aluminum and really easy to use. I cant say that I'd recommend using the little 5' rolls you can get at Menards or HomeDepot since these little rolls of aluminum are almost as thin a gauge metal as a beer can...junk. I think HD sells Rolex brand coil in the siding section of their store so you could at least get an idea of what I'm talking about. You could also go to any siding/window dealer and buy a hunk to play with, it's 2' wide and comes in 50' long rolls, lots of times these guys have half used rolls laying around and will cut ya a chunk. It was alot easeir to fab up too since I have a break for bending this stuff, I was able to bend a lip around the entire perimeter so this could be attached to the firewall. I did use body caulk to seal around where it met the blower motor and where the box hit the firewall so it was air tight and water would'nt get it when I washed under the hood. I do remember now the factory hole was huge when I got the AC box off and I did cover the opening somewhat since all the air needed was a direction to go through my box thingy. During the fall/nights is when I seen the most condensation on the windsheild and having the defroster was nice. When I redid the car last winter I took everything HVAC out as well as the sound deadner under the carpet. I have yet to have a problem with foggy windows but I dont drive in the rain with it and at the night races there is enough radiant heat coming through the carpet from the exhaust to keep the cabin cozy on high 30 degree nights wearing just a sweatshirt and the window cracked. I also installed a 12V back seat heat heater bolted to my cage but I've never needed it. It's also a little on the small side and wont heat you out if it tried, but it's there
I used the aluminum coil stock that is used to cap/cover the wood on homes when they are being sided or windows are being replaced. It's thin gauge aluminum and really easy to use. I cant say that I'd recommend using the little 5' rolls you can get at Menards or HomeDepot since these little rolls of aluminum are almost as thin a gauge metal as a beer can...junk. I think HD sells Rolex brand coil in the siding section of their store so you could at least get an idea of what I'm talking about. You could also go to any siding/window dealer and buy a hunk to play with, it's 2' wide and comes in 50' long rolls, lots of times these guys have half used rolls laying around and will cut ya a chunk. It was alot easeir to fab up too since I have a break for bending this stuff, I was able to bend a lip around the entire perimeter so this could be attached to the firewall. I did use body caulk to seal around where it met the blower motor and where the box hit the firewall so it was air tight and water would'nt get it when I washed under the hood. I do remember now the factory hole was huge when I got the AC box off and I did cover the opening somewhat since all the air needed was a direction to go through my box thingy. During the fall/nights is when I seen the most condensation on the windsheild and having the defroster was nice. When I redid the car last winter I took everything HVAC out as well as the sound deadner under the carpet. I have yet to have a problem with foggy windows but I dont drive in the rain with it and at the night races there is enough radiant heat coming through the carpet from the exhaust to keep the cabin cozy on high 30 degree nights wearing just a sweatshirt and the window cracked. I also installed a 12V back seat heat heater bolted to my cage but I've never needed it. It's also a little on the small side and wont heat you out if it tried, but it's there
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Originally posted by TPl383
When I lived in FLA. I could careless about The Ac and Heat its was a weekend only toy. no rainy days etc.
Now that Im in Ohio.. I picked up a Non-Ac heater box that is going back in. There are some Nice Days out when Its damm cold and heat would be nice for Defog get..
When I lived in FLA. I could careless about The Ac and Heat its was a weekend only toy. no rainy days etc.
Now that Im in Ohio.. I picked up a Non-Ac heater box that is going back in. There are some Nice Days out when Its damm cold and heat would be nice for Defog get..
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Here's a link top what I have bolted to the cross bar on my cage. Not the prettiest, but functional. I put quick connects on the electrical ends so during the summer I can remove the heater and install my oscilating?sp fan for when I'm up in the staging lanes I'm not roasting to death in the summer heat. The wiring is hidden for the most part so if I chose to unhook the back set heat and remove the fan you could'nt tell anything was there. I cant remember the size I got, but if your were gonna drive in the winter time I would get about 2 sizes bigger. I found mine on e-bay for $40 plus shipping brand new from somebody. I really dont need it becasue of the radiant heat from my exhaust is sufficent to keep me warm, just wanted to be sure cause the midnight races always led to a little condensation on the windsheild the year before-'02. Had no problems though last year-'03.
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/rodi/bacseatheat3.html
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/rodi/bacseatheat3.html
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Originally posted by SydwayzTA 86
thats the way i want mine to look, nice and flush, did you just start yanking stuff out and weld it over ? or bolt a plate on there ?
thats the way i want mine to look, nice and flush, did you just start yanking stuff out and weld it over ? or bolt a plate on there ?
made a template using the AC box and cut it outa sheetmetal.
Put down a silicon bead to seal it. Then rivited it in place.
I was gona leave it like this and get this heater from summit racing.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...57#largerimage
and put it under the dash where the heater core and box was. Then just wire it into the factory control ****.
but a Non AC heater box is a nice clean look also. So I picked one up cheap.
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I also have a little electric heater like IHI but mine is about the twice the size of a large radar detector I just throw it on the dash plug it into the cig. lighter and point it at the windshield for defrost when needed
Are you maybe looking for something like this:
Are you maybe looking for something like this:
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what i want its simple for the most part, just want all the crap thats taking up that room and lookin ugly gone, and flat. and i like the idea of the external heater. i never use the heater anyway, but it would be good to have for defrosting, so i like that
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Damn Flrtin1, that polished aluminum on the firewall is the cats ****!! I never even gave that a thought when I did mine
BUT...just imagine the entire bedcover for our S-10 made with the same stuff. I was getting blinded by the lights in the gargage drilling all the hole for the rivets, I'm scared to think what the summer sun is gonna do-hopefully throw a reflection at my opponent just before he sees the last yellow!!!
BUT...just imagine the entire bedcover for our S-10 made with the same stuff. I was getting blinded by the lights in the gargage drilling all the hole for the rivets, I'm scared to think what the summer sun is gonna do-hopefully throw a reflection at my opponent just before he sees the last yellow!!! Supreme Member
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Not my car, but Jerriko's. I think it looks good.
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April 23, 2003
Have I said before that I hate wasted space? Well, if I didn't, I do. I remove all remnants of the AC system from my car for various reasons except for the factory climate control box. Using a piece of 24 gauge aluminum, I fashioned an AC Delete box. The pictured delete box (top) is shown without the blower motor, resistor block, and relay bracket. I do plan on painting the box so it matches the firewall better. It also gives me a place to put all of my stickers! The bottom picture is the completed delete box. I made sure to use a temperature resistant paint since the
passenger side exhaust manifold is in the vicinity.
Just another thing to think about
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April 23, 2003
Have I said before that I hate wasted space? Well, if I didn't, I do. I remove all remnants of the AC system from my car for various reasons except for the factory climate control box. Using a piece of 24 gauge aluminum, I fashioned an AC Delete box. The pictured delete box (top) is shown without the blower motor, resistor block, and relay bracket. I do plan on painting the box so it matches the firewall better. It also gives me a place to put all of my stickers! The bottom picture is the completed delete box. I made sure to use a temperature resistant paint since the
passenger side exhaust manifold is in the vicinity.
Just another thing to think about
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That style box looks awfull familiar
That picture is great and the one I did'nt have of mine!! Functional and small.
That picture is great and the one I did'nt have of mine!! Functional and small. Junior Member
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I modified my A/c box to be just heat and defrost here is link to my tech articles.
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hey when you use the s10 delete box, do you need anything else or just the box? any cutting involved? got pics? im dying to can the rest of the ac, my headers sit REAL close to it and its prob gonna melt off anyways
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so an s10 non ac box will fit right up, ok, sounds good if it does, i can get one from a junkyard no prob....
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HEY!!!! People who got rid of their A/C!!!
CAN I HAVE SOME OF THE PARTS?!?!?!
I am looking to install a/c as somebody just CUT the core out and I need it.....as well as the hoses, compressor and all the crap that goes with it.
If one of you guys still has your stuff, and it worked when you removed it, would you be willing to "sell" it?
Thanks!
CAN I HAVE SOME OF THE PARTS?!?!?!
I am looking to install a/c as somebody just CUT the core out and I need it.....as well as the hoses, compressor and all the crap that goes with it.
If one of you guys still has your stuff, and it worked when you removed it, would you be willing to "sell" it?
Thanks!
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it was me that got rid of my ac. i'll give you all the parts for $40 if you wanna pick them up. i live in oxnard, ca. name is Walter
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I don't believe that the S-10 box is a direct replacement. I just got an a/c delete box from the junkyard today for $20. One thing that I didn't realize before seeing it in person is the non- A/C box is metal whereas the a/c unit is plastic. Therefore, the box will have serious rust! I'm not looking forward to cleaning mine up and treating the rust. Anyway, the S-10 box is very similar but appears to have the bolt holes in slightly different locations. Since I found one in a Camaro, I didn't bother trying an S-10 box. I found the non-A/C boxes to not be as rare as I expected. Between two junkyards, I've seen 3 of them in f-bodies (in sad shape mostly though). As far as the Chevy truck boxes go, they're everywhere
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I find them all the time too! I think it is only rare to find it in the later years 90-92
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Originally posted by SydwayzTA 86
well i never plan on using the AC for one... and the only thing i can think i would really need and for the most part doesnt even work all that well is the defroster, way i figure it is, if you hot, down go the windows and off come the ttops, if your cold, windows up sweatshirt on..:rockon:
well i never plan on using the AC for one... and the only thing i can think i would really need and for the most part doesnt even work all that well is the defroster, way i figure it is, if you hot, down go the windows and off come the ttops, if your cold, windows up sweatshirt on..:rockon:
...sorry didnt read the whole thread before i posted my fault but like alot of others said you will need heat sometimes
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I find them all the time too! I think it is only rare to find it in the later years 90-92
I find them all the time too! I think it is only rare to find it in the later years 90-92
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