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question about roll bar/cage metal
is there a difference between mild steel and dom?
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I'm no expert, but I believe technically DOM is mild (1020-1026 - low carbon). From speedymetals.com:
If you'll check out onlinemetals.com or speedymetals.com - they both have ALOT of information on different alloys, and what is their qualities, advantages, applications, etc...
(Drawn Over Mandrel). DOM Steel Tube is produced using uniformly high quality C1020 steel strip and is formed and electric resistance welded into its basic shape. After annealing to produce a uniform grain structure throughout, the tube is then cold drawn over a mandrel to give it these advantages:
uniform concentricity around the central axis,
better ovality,
closer tolerances,
denser surface,
uniform wall thickness,
and higher physical properties.
The cold working process works the weld area to produce a sound, dense, and homogeneous structure comparable to that of the base metal. The weld line disappears, causing DOM tube to be virtually seamless. The surface is superior to that of regular seamless tubing, since the material has been cold drawn from strip steel. The hole is straight and concentric with the outside diameter. DOM Steel Tube may be machined, formed, welded, carburized, and subjected to other fabricating techniques that are ordinarily applied to low carbon steel. The use of DOM Steel Tube gives you a guaranteed micro-inch surface and lower productions costs by reducing or eliminating such operations as boring, honing, and finishing.
uniform concentricity around the central axis,
better ovality,
closer tolerances,
denser surface,
uniform wall thickness,
and higher physical properties.
The cold working process works the weld area to produce a sound, dense, and homogeneous structure comparable to that of the base metal. The weld line disappears, causing DOM tube to be virtually seamless. The surface is superior to that of regular seamless tubing, since the material has been cold drawn from strip steel. The hole is straight and concentric with the outside diameter. DOM Steel Tube may be machined, formed, welded, carburized, and subjected to other fabricating techniques that are ordinarily applied to low carbon steel. The use of DOM Steel Tube gives you a guaranteed micro-inch surface and lower productions costs by reducing or eliminating such operations as boring, honing, and finishing.
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Re: question about roll bar/cage metal
thanks. i am just wondering if buying the comp engeneering 6 pt cage is a good deal or if i should have someone make it out of dom stuff.
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i don't know they say mild steel. but i did not read anything about dom.
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Mild steel is the type of metal. DOM is how the tubes are formed. You could have mild steel or CM tubes and both are DOM.
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ok so the ce kit is an ok kit. also i was wondering i have seen a cage that looked something like this. but i have only seen one in person. would this actually help over being just a 4 point or will it add streingth like a 6pt. I am not going to be in the 10 sec class i just want to add some chassis regidity and still make it easier to get in and out of. also i wanted to keep the stock intoerior.
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its a 4pt with "door bars"
you can buy the door bars separate.
they are not legal for completion use, but i would assume they would still add some more rigidity to the chassis
you can buy the door bars separate.
they are not legal for completion use, but i would assume they would still add some more rigidity to the chassis
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Mild Steel is cheaper, heavier, easier to weld.
Chromoly is expensive, harder to weld, lighter.
Chromoly is expensive, harder to weld, lighter.
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would the door bars make it a 6pt cage? Competition engeneering has a 6pt cage that has the two door bars. i was wondering if taking the door bars and making them like the way i drew would still make it a 6pt with the tunnel braces.
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Technically it does have 6 points, but because of the way that the door bars are shaped, NHRA and IHRA won't certify it as more than a 4 point cage
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Re: question about roll bar/cage metal
Basicly your going to get into three styles of tubing. You have your standard style welded tubing, DOM, and Chrome molly.
-The comp enginering cage is your standard style tubing for a cage. They take a flat peice of steal roll it then weld the seam. If you look at the tube you can see the seam.
-DOM style tubing is seamless. Its stronger and more expensive. Most all road racing sactioning bodies require DOM.
-Chrome Molly is like DOM but it is stronger. And you can run a thinner wall tubing. Which in turn saves weight. But its expensive.
All and all the best bang for the buck is the Competion Enginering cage. If you can spend a little more monney get the spohn door bars. That way you don't have to cut up the arm rests.
-The comp enginering cage is your standard style tubing for a cage. They take a flat peice of steal roll it then weld the seam. If you look at the tube you can see the seam.
-DOM style tubing is seamless. Its stronger and more expensive. Most all road racing sactioning bodies require DOM.
-Chrome Molly is like DOM but it is stronger. And you can run a thinner wall tubing. Which in turn saves weight. But its expensive.
All and all the best bang for the buck is the Competion Enginering cage. If you can spend a little more monney get the spohn door bars. That way you don't have to cut up the arm rests.
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