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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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New Prototype K memeber

Here is a new Kmember a friend of mine has built. He will be test fitting it in an Outlaw 10.5 this weekend.

this Kmember with control arms weighs 18lbs.


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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 11:11 PM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

HHHMmmm.... Interesting!
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 11:28 PM
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The pictures are a little small to see detail. I'm not sure I like the A-arm mounts. Without side braces, what's to keep them from folding under? I guess without seeing exactly what type or style of A-arms this is designed for, it's hard to make a judgment call on the design.
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

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The pictures are a little small to see detail. I'm not sure I like the A-arm mounts. Without side braces, what's to keep them from folding under? I guess without seeing exactly what type or style of A-arms this is designed for, it's hard to make a judgment call on the design.
Screw the A-arm mount design, where's he gonna put the motor!?

It says he is only at mid-design test fit stage so I assume there is much more to come. Thats a bit far from the finished product to brag about weight.
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 08:49 PM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

Outlaw 10.5 car.... Maybe motor plates? Not sure what the class has as far as restrictions.

If its strictly a straight line car, and he's gonna run motor plates, I can see this working pretty good. Ide like to see it under the car with the control arms bolted on. Im guessing it'll need a little more but kudos to him for building his own parts!

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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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Outlaw 10.5 car.... Maybe motor plates?
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Been thinking about my LSx swap and completely forgot about motor plates.
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 11:22 PM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

When I bought my ProFab k-member and a-arms many years ago, I ordered it without motor mounts as I was already using motor plates.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 01:22 PM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

This Kmemeber will be using TRZ motorsports Gbody lower control arms.
The center will removable with a 4 bolt flange in ench end,
This k member will not have motor mounts, must have motor plate.
Also will only be made in 4130 chromemoly.

He has the same design in some of the fasted X275 and putlaw radial tire mustangs in the country.
A friend of mine has one is his mustang and he has wheel stood the thing 100s of times with rought landings and no damage to the k member. The mustang kmember looks damn near the same as this one.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 02:13 PM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

Here is a link to a mustang kmember install
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=316647
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 12:07 AM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

OK, seeing the installed design makes a bit more sense now.

So what's the purpose of the removable center? Engine removal?
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 06:36 AM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

Def makes oil pan removal easier thats for sure! Can probably rebuild the motor without removing it from the car if you had to do it in a hurry.

As a track piece...that thing is nice. And you cant argue with results.

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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 08:00 AM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

Here is the Kmember is the outlaw 10.5 car. This is just a test fit.
Look at all the header room you have?
When you are pushing 40-50lbs of boost like most 10.5 and radial tire cars do and spraying nitrous car with a ton of N20 like they are doing in the X275 radial tire races, you will be putting pistons in them at big races.
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 06:11 AM
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gorgeous....keep us posted man, this looks like a nice piece! makes me want to put motor plates in the car, lol
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 11:45 AM
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That legal for a outlaw 10.5?

"Front Chassis/Suspension: No full tube chassis allowed. Back half vehicles only. The back half-lower frame section must not extend forward past the rear most portion of the K-member or cross-member and the suspension components can not attach to it. Complete stock front frame rails from the firewall forward must be retained. Front frame horns may be modified for fitting of removable front end. Stock type suspension and configuration required. All factory control arms must bolt in the factory frame mounting location or the K-member/crossmember. The lower control arm should bolt in factory location. All vehicles manufactured with four control arms must retain four functioning control arms. Spindle and dampening device can not be directly welded or bolted together. After market spindles allowed. Commercially available coil-overs, springs, or struts allowed. Modifying of strut or shock towers allowed for header and engine clearance only. Must retain at least 50% of the original tower. Top plate may not be modified except mounting holes may be slotted (not relocated). Upper shock tower bar may be grafted in. (Tech decision will be final)."


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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

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That legal for a outlaw 10.5?

"Front Chassis/Suspension: No full tube chassis allowed. Back half vehicles only. The back half-lower frame section must not extend forward past the rear most portion of the K-member or cross-member and the suspension components can not attach to it. Complete stock front frame rails from the firewall forward must be retained. Front frame horns may be modified for fitting of removable front end. Stock type suspension and configuration required. All factory control arms must bolt in the factory frame mounting location or the K-member/crossmember. The lower control arm should bolt in factory location. All vehicles manufactured with four control arms must retain four functioning control arms. Spindle and dampening device can not be directly welded or bolted together. After market spindles allowed. Commercially available coil-overs, springs, or struts allowed. Modifying of strut or shock towers allowed for header and engine clearance only. Must retain at least 50% of the original tower. Top plate may not be modified except mounting holes may be slotted (not relocated). Upper shock tower bar may be grafted in. (Tech decision will be final)."


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K members are legal in 10.5. Go look at every 10.5 in the counrty and find a 10.5 car, Drag radial, X275, car and see if they have a factory k member
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

Here is a pic with the rack installed
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 07:00 PM
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I wish I could put a rack on my car. The steering shaft would have to go under the headers to a different location on the firewall.
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

Originally Posted by anesthes
That legal for a outlaw 10.5?

"Front Chassis/Suspension: No full tube chassis allowed. Back half vehicles only. The back half-lower frame section must not extend forward past the rear most portion of the K-member or cross-member and the suspension components can not attach to it. Complete stock front frame rails from the firewall forward must be retained. Front frame horns may be modified for fitting of removable front end. Stock type suspension and configuration required. All factory control arms must bolt in the factory frame mounting location or the K-member/crossmember. The lower control arm should bolt in factory location. All vehicles manufactured with four control arms must retain four functioning control arms. Spindle and dampening device can not be directly welded or bolted together. After market spindles allowed. Commercially available coil-overs, springs, or struts allowed. Modifying of strut or shock towers allowed for header and engine clearance only. Must retain at least 50% of the original tower. Top plate may not be modified except mounting holes may be slotted (not relocated). Upper shock tower bar may be grafted in. (Tech decision will be final)."


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It looks like unless you move the a-arm points or cut out most of the strut towers they should be legal...
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 09:14 PM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

they don't want "front half" cars...as in full tube chassis.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 07:32 AM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

Originally Posted by 83 Crossfire TA
It looks like unless you move the a-arm points or cut out most of the strut towers they should be legal...
Yeah I guess it's up to interpretation.

I realize replacement k-members are legal, I'm just curious how far of a design change makes it illegal for the outlaw class.

I'm not into points racing anymore, and have not been for a couple of years so I just am concerned with safety. I was just curious in this case more than anything. I bought a bender a few months ago and if I have some ambition next winter I might make a tubular front end for my car.


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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

Originally Posted by anesthes
Yeah I guess it's up to interpretation.

I realize replacement k-members are legal, I'm just curious how far of a design change makes it illegal for the outlaw class.

I'm not into points racing anymore, and have not been for a couple of years so I just am concerned with safety. I was just curious in this case more than anything. I bought a bender a few months ago and if I have some ambition next winter I might make a tubular front end for my car.


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You can't have a front half car, aka the k member must bolt into place.

There have also been some rules about how much front framerail is required... it used to be 4" in front of the motorplate, but that has slipped.

It's tough to hang in that class, lots of money required! I raced in KOTH outlaw 10.5 for a few years down in TX. Ran some 4.7-4.8 or so, not nearly fast enough to hang with the big boys.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

hey Alkyroc thanks for info on ladder bars
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 04:20 PM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

Originally Posted by anesthes
Yeah I guess it's up to interpretation.

I realize replacement k-members are legal, I'm just curious how far of a design change makes it illegal for the outlaw class.

I'm not into points racing anymore, and have not been for a couple of years so I just am concerned with safety. I was just curious in this case more than anything. I bought a bender a few months ago and if I have some ambition next winter I might make a tubular front end for my car.


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you know, I've never been into it, but have built a few cars where I didn't do specific things just in case I wanted to run them in a class...

Funny, if I was building specifically to go after the class I'd probably figure out how far I could push the rules in a helpful way and not get caught, so I wouldn't bother racing those cars anyway... oh well...
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 09:33 AM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

AA Performance chrome moly
lightweight pro series
K members and accesories
avalaible at TRZ Motorsports


Double adjustable control arms(optional of 1" shorter)


Adjustable suspension travel limiters


82-92 camaro/firebird
wieight: 13.5 pounds
3 pieces
center is removable to access oil pan.
avalible with double adjustable a arms



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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 07:27 PM
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Re: New Prototype K memeber

Originally Posted by 1983cameroman
hey Alkyroc thanks for info on ladder bars
Hey nice car in your avatar.

By the way very nice K member. I wish my center was removable, might have to attempt to make mine removable.
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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damn that thing looks sick, what kind of money are they lookin at on that stilleto?
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 07:57 PM
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very cool!
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