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Old 02-06-2018, 06:34 PM
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next up was to mount the oil breather tank I got at the swap meet. Another good $15 deal, complete with K&N filter. The valve cover breathers are from Dorman at $7 a piece. Firewall bracket is 1/8 aluminum.







All hoses are 5/8".

I stripped off the headlights and all of the wiring tagging some of the less obvious connectors to make reassembly a little easier. also as I was taking apart, I bagged and tagged the bolts, nuts, adel clamps, etc. so I wouldn't be scrambling for small parts when reassembled.

So many of my panels have been made from scrap metal from different sources, stop signs, furnace duct work, food prep table and part of a clothes dryer. Some of the pictures of the car during construction look like a patchwork quilt. I set about cleaning, sanding and painting them. Since the ones from the front of the car were for the radiator or mounted behind the headlights the were all painted flat black.



Oh yeah, I painted the hood prop rod bright red. Maybe I'll see it and not whack my head on it!

X brace and aluminum panel. These were pop riveted together after painting.




The air cleaner/air pan for the cowl hood. Made from the 18" cake pan.




and the steering parts. I decided that these should be gloss black. Gloss is easier to keep clean.




I'll pull the drive shaft, and tko 600 from the bottom, then pull the engine from the top. A lot of cleaning and sanding after that to paint engine compartment and underbody. Car body, engine compartment and underbody will be a urethane gloss white. Under the hood all suspension and steering parts will be gloss black. I haven't decided on the interior yet. I have light grey cloth seat covers for the Kirkey seats and a darker gray carpet to put down. I don't know if I should paint interior the gloss white and trim in gray or paint the interior all gray. I'm thinking the white with gray trim but idk.
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Old 02-06-2018, 07:34 PM
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Nice work. Paint sure makes a difference. Waiting to see the cars overall profile with the hood. Lot of talented people on Third gen.
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Nice work. Paint sure makes a difference. Waiting to see the cars overall profile with the hood. Lot of talented people on Third gen.
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Tex and everyone else that has followed me on this,long journey. I want to apologize for the slow pace as the car gets nearer to completion. I have read to many aggressive build threads that get so far along and just stop, or the car gets sold and we never see it completed.

i'm over the hump, the big work is done, just paint and tidy up loose ends. But life has thrown me a couple of curve ***** these last couple years health wise and it has really slowed the progress down. I've set a goal to get the car stripped bare by end of the month, hopefully sooner so paint work can begin.

thanks for following along,

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Old 04-19-2018, 07:09 PM
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:14 AM
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To Tex and everyone else that has followed my build for do long. I have been suffering from the affects of trigeminal neuralgia for the past 3 yrs. The constant pain in my head caused me to quit working and go on disability. I have taken several different drugs and gone through 6 nerve block procedures trying to decrease the level of pain. Nothing has worked to date. The pain increased significantly these past few months leaving me pretty much bed ridden thru February and March.

back in November I started to strip the car down for paint, a job that should have taken a week or so. It is still not completely stripped but close. I was hoping to get he engine bay, interior and underbody cleaned and primered before I turn the car over to someone to do the actual body work an paint.

The plan was to have it painted by now and be reasembleing the car now so I could drive it this summer. Now it looks like it will probably get painted this fall and and I'll be driving it again next spring.

You know what they say..."If you want to make God laugh, just tell him your plans."

I feel bad because I wanted to see this project through and post results of my driving experiences with all the suspension mods. I didn't want to be another grandiose project that never got finished and just faded from tgo. My goal is still to complete it and drive it and beat the crap out of it at autox and track days. Hopefully God is a gearhead will and help me out some.

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Old 04-20-2018, 10:45 AM
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Never give up, Dave. TGO community is rooting for you!

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Old 04-24-2018, 05:44 PM
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I have been watching this from the beginning. All that work is awesome!
To bad for your health. Hope you get better very soon.
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Old 04-24-2018, 07:02 PM
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Keep your chin up Dave and remember, there's nobody tougher than a thirdgen owner.
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Old 06-14-2018, 06:15 PM
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To everyone that has expressed good wishes I thank you and please keep me in your prayers.

It seems God still is not done testing my faith and resolve. On 4-23-18 my wife suffered a massive stroke while we were working in the yard. She was pronounced brain dead on the 25th and passed away that evening. I'm just starting to get my feet back under me. I've got family near to me so help is there when I need it.

On a positive note in the weeks since I have found an herbal suppliment, CBD oil, that has really helped with the head pain. No thc so not getting high. Only been on it a few,weeks but it seems to be effective.

thanks again for all the encouragement. I'll get back on it as soon as I can.

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Old 06-14-2018, 07:02 PM
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this is the only thread im sunscribed to on this forum. i was waiting on an email and was disappointed it wasnt what i was waiting for, but after hearing that ive remembered to appreciate the time we have with our loved ones.

im sure weve all been struck by tradgedy, i recently lost a cousin who i promised to take for a ride when i finished my car. still not done yet, but at least somebody said hey man, ill come chill with ya. remember the good times pal, thats part of what makes working on older cars so great.

ill be watching bud, im working out my own kinks but even the idea of having my old z back is enough to make it all worth while.
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It seems God still is not done testing my faith and resolve. On 4-23-18 my wife suffered a massive stroke while we were working in the yard. She was pronounced brain dead on the 25th and passed away that evening. I'm just starting to get my feet back under me.
I'm so sorry, Dave.

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"I thank my God upon every remembrance of you, Always in every prayer of mine for you all making request with joy, For your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now; Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ"
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Sorry to hear of your loss Dave.
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Old 06-19-2018, 08:31 PM
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Sorry for your loss. I can't begin to imagine how it feels.
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:49 PM
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Dave
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Tex, it's been a while since I last posted but project isn't dead, just dormant. It's been a tough 3 years with getting sick, having to stop working, then colon cancer, and my wife passing away earlier this year. I am finally at a place health wise that I can get back on it and get it done. I should start posting again in early January. Right now the car is pretty well stripped down. I've got to kick out the windshield to finish up some welding inside.

With the front wheels moved forward the inner sidewall of the tires just touches the factory spring pockets at full lock. I've debated back and forth whether to dimple them in with a hammer or cut them out entirely. I've decided to cut them out and plate the area leaving a nice flat sided frame rail.

So anyway things are starting to look up finally, at least health wise. Getting back to working on the car can only improve my mental outlook. Before I got sick and things went down hill, keeping a steady stream of posts was motivation to go out and work on the car week after week. Hopefully I'll be able to do that again. Having been able to drive this car last year and confirming that it is at least road worthy if not track worthy makes me anxious to get it painted and on the road where I can tweak and tune it into something really special.

STAY TUNED!!
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Glad to hear you are in a better place. Merry Christmas.
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Glad you're doing better! Can't wait to see more work done on this car!
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Dave this is a monumental undertaking and a badass ride.

Hope to see you getting back to making progress again and you've provided inspiration for myself and others i'm sure.

Thanks for the thread.
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With all that you've been through, you've accomplished so much. You have definitely given me the inspiration to start working towards my car. You're doing a fantastic job at it and I loved reading how you did everything step by step. I hope you can get your health back on track - that's the most important thing. I'll be keeping up with you so update us whenever you make some changes to your car, no matter how small. Good luck and you'll be in my thoughts!
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I'ld like to thank everyone that has followed along over the last 8 years. Your interest in my project and your encouragement and support were a big part of my motivation to see this project through. I want to wish everyone here a very merry Christmas and hope 2019 is a good year for us all.
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Thank you...same to you sir.
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holey ****...im so sorry
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Hey guys just want you to know I'm still around and the project is still alive. I finally broke down and paid photo bucket their ransom so I could get my pictures released so at least you can see what was done up until 2018.

If you want to make God laugh just tell Him your plans. We'll my plan was to get back on the 83Z finish my welding and get it to a body man to make it sort of pretty. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

I decided to take a couple weeks, pull the 700r4 out of my son's 84 berlinetta and go back through it to fix a 3-4, 4-3 hunt while cruising. The trans has a full manual transgo kit in it along with the good clutches, bands and servos. Upon disassembly I found a crack in the case at the bellhousing (not at a stress point), and a crack in the reverse input housing. Since I had a good working stock 700r4 from my 83Z I decided to gut that case and put in all the good parts from the modified trans. That decision doubled the work I had to do.

Both trans were later model 30 spline units but the one from the Z had the auxiliary valve body and the one from the berlinetta did not. It took a lot of looking, double checking, and head scratching to match up valve body gaskets, seperator plates, check ***** etc. plus add in the modifications per transgo. Long story short, with the trans back in the car I've got no 2-3 shift. Trans stays in second and then shifts to 4th.

After a call to transgo the tech refers me to page 5 of their instruction sheet that covers the mods to the 2-3 and 3-4 shift valves. He points out the roll pin that retains the aluminum sleeve in the 2-3 valve body bore. There is a slot shown on the side of the sleeve at its outer end, parallel with the roll pin. To me and apparently many others installing this kit, it infers that the pin slides down through the valvebody, into the groove and retains the sleeve, shift valve and spring. NOPE!!!! "Yeah, we don't make that real clear in the instructions" the tech says. "The pin actually goes in another notch on the other side of the sleeve that is not in the picture." I'm nearly 100% sure I reassembled that valve as per their picture. They provide no written instructions and it wasn't covered in their vcr (yes a vcr was in the box!). So now I've got to drain it, pull the pan and check the position of the sleeve and retainer pin while ATF drips on my face.

Oh but wait, that was my plan 4 weeks ago! God had other ideas and really likes picking on me. I was out to dinner with friends and started experiencing sharp abdominal pains. After a couple hours and the pain getting worse I was taken to the ER and was diagnosed with a blockage in my small intestine. I left the hospital 11 days later, 15lbs lighter, and 23 staples holding my belly together. I'm finally on the mend and healing up well. It will be a good 4 weeks before I can safely get under a car and stretch and strain my abdomen. Maybe God doesn't want me working on cars, I don't know.

Anyway enjoy looking at the restored photos and really guys I am going to finish this car even if I have to make a deal with the devil!
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dammit man grab a belt, sinch it tight, keep your guts inside and get that thing rolling! ive been subscibed to this thread for years and years and i wont be satiafied until i see it running and driving. glad to see somebody has the guts( no pun int.) to stay on it all this time. you must truly love your car. i had to rebuild mine twice and swap everything over onto a new body to get mine back after some guy tboned me back in 09! i have to say its been worth it though, what ive got now is truly a whole new experience than the 92 rs i had back then and im sure a few misc bolts and parts from that car get to be driven once again.
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dammit man grab a belt, sinch it tight, keep your guts inside and get that thing rolling! ive been subscibed to this thread for years and years and i wont be satiafied until i see it running and driving. glad to see somebody has the guts( no pun int.) to stay on it all this time. you must truly love your car. i had to rebuild mine twice and swap everything over onto a new body to get mine back after some guy tboned me back in 09! i have to say its been worth it though, what ive got now is truly a whole new experience than the 92 rs i had back then and im sure a few misc bolts and parts from that car get to be driven once again.
CatmanFS thanks got the encouragement. I'll be back on it as soon as I'm am able. Because of my fab skills I get a lit of request from other local 3rd gen owners to help with their projects. I build custom exhaust, sub frame connectors, seat mounts etc. A good friend of mine bought a real clean 86 firebird that had been drag raced in Virginia. My friend just had an 8.50 cert cage installed in it. The car is getting a turbocharged 5.3 LS motor that should make 750 to 800 rwhp. I've been asked to build the hot and cold sides to the turbo, the complete exhaust system, mount the seats and any other fab work that might be needed. Oh yeah I also was asked to assemble the motor. They're hoping to race the car by August so I'll be busy trying to get their car to the track.
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