player 88

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I have found a source for 9 bolt posi cones in Australia, I am trying to get a realistic number of people who would want a pair, so I can work deal on a bulk buy. I can get a quantity discount, so please let me know many you want. These are NEW OEM cones.

Currently at 1 or 2 at a time the price will be approx $70-80 per cone (2 per rear end= Approx. $150). Plus shipping. Shipping in bulk would be very resonable vs. 2 at a time.

ALSO, I can get the GTO HP diff spring tuning spring kit. This replaces the stock springs with the current HP springs from the GTO, we can also get bulk pricing on these too. the go for around $75 per kit for 1 at a time.

My idea would be that I would buy them up front and then bring them over in one shipment and then send them and each person could then pay me back one at a time. Let me know if this sounds OK


Again we can get better pricing if we buy in bulk for both items
thanks
Steve

wannafbody

iTrader: (1)

Im down but I need them pretty soon.

old Phart

iTrader: (1)

I would like 1 set (2) of posi cones and the GTO HP diff spring kit on a GP. Thanks.

IROCThe5.7L

I'm interested in the posi cones & springs.

player 88

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We are up to the following in 10 minutes of posting!!

4 cone pairs
1 spring kit

I will be ordering 3 set of cones at least and spring kits.

AllenGTA

I want a set of cones too. But I'm in the UK. Player 88 is there any way we can sort it so you can send me a set to the UK? or can you pass on the details of the supplier in Australia if not.

Cheers.

Brisk

iTrader: (25)

I'm in need of a set of cones asap. I'd may be interested in a set of springs aswell.

question: even when installing a new set of cones, isn't a shim kit required? I'll need a shimming kit aswell.

player 88

iTrader: (2)

No problem, I can ship a set there too.

Steve
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Wow keep them coming and let other know! I would like to place the order by the endof the month!! (February)

thanks
STeve

current status:
We are up to the following in approx 12 hours of posting!!

6 cone pairs
2 spring kit

I will be ordering minimum 3 set of cones and spring kits.

player 88

iTrader: (2)

Good question:

When new, the diffs came with no shims, only the springs provided preload. The shims are to make up for the maching of the old cones and wear of the case. With these NEW OEM cones, less shiming, if any, is required, it depends on much wear your case has. The HD spring kit should also help with that.

FYI - personnelly I have a set of shims that I got with my rebuild kit and they are actually the pinion shims for use on the pinion gear, between the inner bearing and gear. NOTE: The orginal pinion was shimmed between the inner pinion bearing race and the housing, not between the pinion bearing and gear. However, I will try and get some info for them also.

thanks
Steve

CashMunson

iTrader: (1)

do you have any actual prices of what the cones and the spring kit would cost if bought in bulk?

player 88

iTrader: (2)

Not as of yet, But I am hoping we cna get the price down enough to cover he shipping. Currently if ordered 1 pair and a spring kit the price would be around $200-220 US + plus shipping.

If we could get it down to around that incuding shipping it would be good. I would like to see approx. $40 off per full set.

The more sets we buy the better the price will be.

As I started in an earlier posting, I was planning ordering all at once, I'll pay for the entire lot up front and ship it over in one package, and pay duty, taxes etc. Then once in country I would then devide them up and mail them out each person. I would let everone know when they are in give them a final priceand then they can either pay me back via Paypal or Money order etc.

The shipping, taxes, broakerage fee, and duty would add back about $20-40 per set up total. So it is worth while doing this way, otherwise the shipping on a small package that far would be $$$

Let me know if that sounds OK.
thanks
Steve

ceub

iTrader: (1)

I might be interested in a set of cones.

cj

CashMunson

iTrader: (1)

i'd be interested if i could get an actual GP price on both.

Mongoose

iTrader: (2)

Are the cones the same for both 2 and 3 series diffs?

AllenGTA

In that case, put me down for a pair of cones and the springs too. If I'm going to do it, might as well do the whole thing properly.

Now where was that topic for the Diff covers group buy

Cheers Steve.

IROCThe5.7L

Whats the advantage with the spring kit? If it's only $75 more, mine as well spring for those too...

seanof30306

iTrader: (4)

What kind of time frame are we talking? I'm in for a set of cones and springs, but I'll be rebuilding my rearend within the next 60 days. Can't wait any longer than that.

btw. Thanks for your efforts on this.

law

I`ll take two sets!!!!!!

Eagle223usa

I'll take 2 cones and 1 springset also! I'll be tearing down in about a month. Thanks!

scooter

iTrader: (11)

I would like a set but I cant afford them ATM. When this is all going to happen I would possibly be interested if I can pay for them then. I would be down for cones and springs.

player 88

iTrader: (2)

I would like to get the ordered placed the first of March. I expect delivery to me approx. 2-3 weeks later. I would then ship them out, I would ask for payment once I recieve them. Once I get a final number of cones and springs, I can get final pricing and shipping costs. The pricing will be based on the numers of units ordered, volume is the key to lower price, so pass the word! I still expect the price for cones and springs to be around $200 delivered. So if that is too much $$ please don't say you want a set and not pay for them when I ask for payment.

I will be ordering some extra sets for myself and to cover others who miss out.

I will request pricing and shipping based on numbers as of 1 March 07.

thanks
Steve

law

Wheel Spin

I'll take a set of cones and springs here.

player 88

iTrader: (2)

good question YES they are the same. internals are indentical.

Also I won;t get actual pricing and delivery until I get a final count on quantity.

Steve

player 88

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Updated count total for cones and springs

16 pairs of cones
11 spring kits

Just as an FYI- the spring kits are stiffer then the stock srpings and will add a littel extra preload the cones. this will help make up for some fo the wear in the carrier it's self.

You still may need to add some shims to the carrier to take up any slack and compensate for wear. The shims are the same as the pinion bearing shims fo rhte 9". I just order some extras from RATECH for $13.00. I also order solid pinions spacers and shims for $18, these eliminate the crush sleeve.

"B" or "P" Model GM Axle p/n 1104 $13.00
(64-71): Pinion Shims -
GM Axle

7.750" (9 bolt) GM Axle: P/N 4115 $18.00
Solid Pinion Bearing
Spacer with Shim Pack 9
bolt
www.ratechmfg.com

Ano affliation- no endoresments etc, etc. I just used them because It was very easy and convienent.

Steve

Jim85IROC

iTrader: (2)

I may be interested in cones. Does anybody care to fill me in on what it takes to replace them? I'm comfortable around a motor, but I really haven't ever spent any time inside of a differential.

niceroc

iTrader: (2)

i have looked at my posi unit and the cones still look liek they have plenty of life leftion them (they have a spirial in the that is pretty deep) would the spring kit make the rear "tighter"?

player 88

iTrader: (2)

Make sure they are not Bottomed out. if they are they you either new ones or you need to machine them. If the carrier is too far worn, then you need machine the ned of the new ones so they don;t bottom. Each side of the carrier has little "windows" in them . If you insert the cone in the carrier you see if the cone bottoms out.
athey also can bottome out on the inside of the carrier. the cones woudl need maching then. The windows are near the carrier bearing on each end. They allow lube into the housing.
Note: new cones will make up for smoe of the wear of the carrier but not all.
New 9 bolt carriers are $485 US Plus shipping.

Yes, the springs tighten up the pre load.

player 88

iTrader: (2)

They are inside the carrier in the diff. Pull the axles out, 4 bolts each end. remove the rear cover. Remove the 4 bolts and carrier bearing caps, the carrier will then come out. NOTE: there are shims on each end, do not mix them up!.

Then use the process in the tech bulletin section on re-shimming. You separate the halves, they are spring loaded, and remove the insides, replace the cones and re-assemble as per the rehimming procedure and then reinstall. No re-setting up the ring and pinion, you didn't disturb it. It you can rebulid an engine or swap heads, you can do this!

C:\Documents and Settings\Steve\My Documents\personal\autos\camaro stuff\9 bolt\9 bot shiming ThirdGen_Org.htm


Steve

wannafbody

iTrader: (1)

I did just want the cones but you can put me down for a set of springs also
do you know when you might be able to recive these?

player 88

iTrader: (2)

See the above emails from me, hopefully around the end of March.

Steve

wannafbody

iTrader: (1)

oh ok, I might can wait that long, deffintly not passed mid april because thats when im gonan start running my car at the track a little lol.
thanks for helping us out!

S!MON

Cancel me, I've found a complete rear from an 88 iroc.
never the less....good job!!

Simon

90IROC1

iTrader: (4)

I'm in for a set of cones and a spring kit.

Mongoose

iTrader: (2)

Put me down for a set of cones and a spring kit. I'd like to know about getting the shims as well.

player 88

iTrader: (2)

We are up to 20 sets of cones and 15 spring kits!!!!!!! As of 23 feb. I will be posting a list of everyone that I have received ann email and or posting from on interest in this group buy on the 27th of February for review. At that time please review and either confirm or reject your willingness to participate in this group buy. I will then place the order on either the 1st or 2nd of March.
thanks for everones interest!!
Steve


Also....................
Shim kits- a few of you have asked about shim kits. I would recomend that you go to a site like ratech www.ratechmfg.com . the shim pack is $13.00 , they the same as pinion shims. See below

Shim kit-
"B" or "P" Model GM Axle p/n 1104 $13.00
(64-71): Pinion Shims -
GM Axle


Also if you are either rebuilding your diff or swapping out gears here is great upgrade also, this replaces the crush sleeve with spacers. works much better.
.750" (9 bolt) GM Axle: P/N 4115 $18.00
Solid Pinion Bearing
Spacer with Shim Pack 9
bolt
www.ratechmfg.com

wannafbody

iTrader: (1)

well i confirm, I want springs, and cones

player 88

iTrader: (2)

Sorry for the delay, I had a close death in the family and it has been a bit hectic.

Please verfiy your name and prodcut you want and we will proceed from there.
If I missed someone please let me know that too!!

Thanks
Steve
tel: 716-210-8543

Old phart- cones and springs
irocthe5.7L- cones and springs
allenGTA- cones and springs- CONFIRMED
Brisk- cones and springs
ceub- cones
sean of 30306- cones and springs
law- 2 pair cones and 1 spring set
eagle223USA- cones and springs
wheel spin- cones and springs
jim88iroc- cones
niceroc- springs
wannafbody- cones and springs- CONFIRMED
cashmunson- cones and springs
90iroc1- cones and springs
kbog54- cones and springs possilby
player 88 (me)- 3 cone sets and 3 spring sets (minimum)

total: 20 cone pairs and 15 spring sets.

Please confirm and I will get moving on this.

thanks
Steve

Mongoose

iTrader: (2)

Do you have an estimate of how much each person's order will cost?

player 88

iTrader: (2)

Now that I have real numbers, I have sent off a request to get firm pricing. I would still think it will be about $200/person for cones and springs + shipping + duties.

Once in country, then it will be approx
$10/person to mail them out. They are faily heavy. but can fit in a cushioned envelope.

So maybe 260-270 total person, and I think that maybe on the high side, but I really won't know until I get a reply back hopfully by tomorrow.

thanks
Steve

AllenGTA

You've got me down for cones. I'll definately take a set.

Add me a set of springs on too.

I'm actually on holiday in NJ at the moment, so might take me a while to respond to anything.

Cheers.

player 88

iTrader: (2)

DONE!!

thanks
Steve

IROCThe5.7L

A little confused. How come some people have 1 spring set next to their name, and others just have springs? What exactly is the name of this company that you are buying these parts from?

With that many on order, I hope we can get a good deal.

Anyway, I'm still in.

kbog54

Im definately very interested if you can come up with a final price for cones and springs.
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Im guessing that he is getting them from holden or the company that bought out borg warner can't remember the name now as they still make parts for these in australia. I tried getting some from them once and they had gearsets and axles also but i gave up after they proved very unco-operative

player 88

iTrader: (2)

OK

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Dana is the new owner of the Borg Warner Austraila operation

Mongoose

iTrader: (2)

Take me off the list, I'm making plans for a different rear altogether now. Thanks for the effort and good luck.

player 88

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UPDATE-

I have sent the final price request off based on volume and I awaiting a response. I should have shipping, etc. all rolled into it.

I will post the $$$ as soon as I get the reply.
thanks
Steve

wannafbody

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once you get the reply and post the price does this mean we can buy them? I am ready lol

player 88

iTrader: (2)

YES!! LOL!!!!

Brisk

iTrader: (25)

any word back on these?