BOW DOWN Y'ALL! I have found an original WHITE with BLACK stripes 1992 Camaro RS. car is loaded, has blk custom cloth int, fact cd, ttops, power everything etc etc. not in the best of shape right now slight rust and such but its orig paint and the factory stripe decals and badge location on the rear spoiler. Pictures to follow someday here.. maybe ill buy it.

 

Any proof?

 

keep rolling your eyes moderator. i cant afford a digital camera and ill have pictures by first part of nextweek. I have a race all day tomorrow, so pictures may be taken late sunday or on monday morning. Proof...psshht!

Too bad it isnt the prototype 25th anniv. car. i woulda bought it on site.

 

You don't need a camera, all you need to do is get the rpo codes and list them here. Pictures of the exterior of the car aren't proof of anything, though a picture of the rpo sheet would be the best proof of all. I've been around thirdgens way too long to believe that this is real without getting some proof. It is much more likely that someone added the decals to the car. If it is real, then getting a pic of the rpo sheet would actually be helping out the thirdgen community by adding another piece of documentation. Get the proof and I'll bow down, otherwise I'll just believe you are blowing smoke out your a**.

 

Yup and mine is a Dale Earnhardt Edition 92. You wouldn't believe how many uneducated people think that.

 

here is the VIN and most of the important the rpo codes:


1G1FP23E2NL138467

B18 : ORNAMENTATION, INTR, DELUX
B34 : COVERING, FRT FLOOR MATS CARPETED INSERT
B35 : COVERING, REAR, FLOOR MATS CARPETED INSERT
CC1 : ROOF HATCH, REMOVABLE PANELS, GLASS
DC4 : MIRROR I/S, R/V, TILT, DUAL READING LAMPS
D3W : GEAR, SPEEDO DRIVEN
D35 : MIRROR, OUTSIDE REAR VIEW
D42 : SHADE, RR COMPT SECURITY
D8N : SENSOR, VEH SPD
D80 : SPOILER, RR END PNL
GU2 : AXLE REAR, 2.73 RATIO
L03 : ENGINE, GAS, 8 CYL 5.OL TBI
V73 : ANTENNA, FIXED
Y86 : MERCHANDISED PKG, CAMARO RS
Z03 : APPEARANCE PACKAGE, 25TH ANNIVERSARY
1SZ : ???
10Q : MOLDING COLOR , ARCTIC WHITE (91)
10U : PRIMARY COLOR , EXTERIOR, ARCTIC WHITE (91)
40P : WHEEL COLOR, WHITE (91)
10Q : black int
10U : black int
1AY : Dealer ordered car


the only thing i have to attempt to prove is the stripe color, but i think its safe to say that since the stripes are BLACK and the interior is BLACK and when the anniv cars were ordered the interior trim matched the stripes. now i dont need pictures. :finger:

 

I challenge anyone to run that VIN thru the service computer if you think im lying about its RPO codes, after all this is the internet and it is full of mental midgets and complete dumbasses, two of which are in the thread and i am neither.

 

OK

 

Yeah, flaming moderators is gonna get you far around here

I'm with Blue502...more than likely someone changed the color of the stripes...but if you are right, great. But whats the deal with the attitude???

 

Heres the proof.

I found this very rare 85 Z28 " Heratige" only thing the car is all black with silverie strips and the very rare backwards Z 28 decal and this is not a backwards picture just look at where the steering wheel is and the sign in the background.

$1,200 dollars and this prize is mine. Heck the decal alone makes it worth what there asking.

Chet

 

CornHick... mean Cornhusker, go have the VIN i posted run through a dealer to pull up the codes. Thats why i provided it for the Naysayers and complete morons.:lala: :lala: :lala:

 

Nick,
The attitude can be left at the door. As Blue502 mentioned, this has never been encountered and proof is needed to "bow down" and accept it. If proof can be shown, then you found a real prize and we will have documented proof that at least one of these cars exist. As of now, none are known about. Your pissy attitude isn't going to make anybody any happier for you if the proof is given.

Also, your comments about the mental midgets and all....well, look in the mirror. You seem to be describing yourself well!

 

wow, this is unbelievable........???

i hate to sink down to this guys level, but it's definately one of the worst i've heard in along time; a sure sign of ignorance, and stupidity!

anyone with very little knowledge of thirdgens and half a brain can tell your full of it!

what a jackass.............

 

So have any of the "experts" here run the VIN yet? I know Drew would have an open mind about this because he's pretty good when it comes to new thirdgen info, but he inst in this thread yet. And for all of you who cant understand the post yet...proof, including the VIN, has been given already.

 

Dude, I agree with you. The VIN is plenty enough proof. Just for documentation purposes though and to proove it to all the other guys here, go to the dealer yourself and scan the printout of the RPO's they give you.

If I cared about it I'd go down to the dealership and do it like I did for a couple of 91 350/T-Top GTA's I've found over the years but I really don't give a rats a$$ about a Camaro that's white with black stripes but if these other guys do then why aren't we seeing them walk down to the dealership and run the VIN before they all call you a liar.

 

Thank you for providing this information, it is more than almost all others who make claims do, but it only proves that it is a white car with Z03 and a black interior.



That has been and still is the whole point. You are the one claiming to have found a unique car, the onus is on you to provide the proof.

Actually that is not safe to say, since the red stripes on a white car were not dependant on the interior color. There are lots of white w/ red striped heritage package Camaros out there with black interiors. A quick search of the web will turn up several.

I haven't run the codes at a dealership, because I found out it won't make any difference. The info I found implys that the stripe color wasn't listed in the RPO codes, since all white cars got red stripes, et. al. You'll need something else for proof if you want to convince us morons, and I doubt you'll find it, unless I am wrong about the stripe color code not being listed in the rpos. So until then, I will still argue that it isn't original and has been changed by a previous owner. The chances of it being a unique factory car (especially a dealer stock car) are all but 0.

And thanks for the finger, it and the rest of your attitude from your very first post really make people want to take you seriously.

No bowing yet...


- your moron moderator who likes to see solid proof on claims of non-existant cars

 

Well that complicates things alot if the stupid stripe color wasn't an RPO code. How would you ever prove it then?

 

I want pics of it and especially the badge on the back. That I gotta see!
Another question, what color is the grill?

 

ENTIRE THEAD=

 

The car has the original paint on it as far as i can tell, no tape lines around the windshield/ ws, etc. or overspray in the jambs, etc. im still waiting on my neighbors digital camera, so ill take another look when i go get pictures.

Funny that you mention the white/red cars sometimes had black interiors, ill have to look into that. all other anniv cars i have seen corresponded interior trim to the paint or stripe color. one was purple/silv stripe Z28 with grey leather and the other was a dark green/gold stripes with tan cloth interior(salvage car). More decrpition on the topic car... the grill is artic white, the headlight buckets are semigloss black like the Z28's. The stripes are black and there is/was a seam on the section of the stripe as it folds over the back edge of the spoiler about .500" -.750" over the curl. They had the same exact stlye as factory (on the deck that i noticed) where they "flare out" as the stripe go forward(if you measure they are wider towards the front). The badge is on the lower left of the rear spoiler, im guessing it was about 3 or 4" from the left edge and i know it was mounted along the lower edge of the spoiler (used as a guide for assembly i guess). thast about all i think that was important on this one.. ill have to get pictures next.

 

uh oh...........LIAR!! there i said it for everyone.........

92GTA, why would you have to prove anything about ta's having t-tops and a 350? it was only a chevy problem.

nick, seeing how there is not a way to pin point the color of the stripes on just the anniversary vin itself your making no more of a point to prove yourself to be nothing more than someone to quick to jump the gun.......all you had to do was ask. but to accuse is another matter. typically the color of car you picked varied the stripe package obviously....just because black stripes were offered on the red versions doesn't mean they were on the white.

just like anything.......cars, grills, etc. can be painted, stripes can be added, etc.

your vin states nothing more as a 25th rs that's artic white with the heritage package. it isn't hard to change colors...... but it isn't recognized as a true 25th edition from gm or to those who really care or notice those little things; that is unless you want to put the red back on.

you can have all the pictures you want, it won't prove anything. if gm never said they made white/black.......it didn't happen.

 

I haven't been on these boards too much lately (sold my 92 Heirage z28 a few months back) but Nicks stating he has these one of a kind is BS!!!

I have know a bit about the thirdgen in the time I had my Heritage camaro. I learned about them, what they came with and what colors they were available with.

There were 2 25th annicersary prototypes that were built that had the 270 hp lt1 and a 6-speed. It was white but had now rear spoiler and had the black GTA rims.

I beleive that only one of these is left and it is yellow now.

As said before, anybody can do body paint scheme changes. It is a shame that GM did not have a rpo code for the stripes.



Manny

ps: I do miss my 92 heritage z28 to be honest, but I know I will buy another low mileage 3rd gen soon!!!

 

So all BS'ing aside, you will NEVER be able to PROVE this is an original black stripe car...period!!!!

If it isn't listed by the RPOs, then how the hell do you KNOW its original??? I mean c'mon...I can look at my stripes on my 30th and assume they are the "original" stripes to the car...then I can look in the dealer computer and see they were replaced THREE TIMES under warranty by the first owner (who knows why )....

So who the hell here is going to believe these stripes weren't swapped too??? Like its sooooo hard to change stripes...

Keep dreaming buddy.

 

Jason E,

Me and you should go find that car and bring are hair dryers with us and show everyone how easy they come off. Then we can put the correct ones back on and while were at it we will put the decals back on my car too.

Chet

 

there is at least one prototype still around......it usually travels with the camaro legends tour!!

it's at the camaro superfest here in ann arbor every year!

like i said before, i have no problem with anyone asking a question; as we are all new at some time........but don't try to b.s. people who know and then put them down.

that my friend will only make you look like an ***!

 

First let me say that I'm not disagreeing with the paint color/stripe color availability information that is known to be true. I have just not seen it in writing myself. Where is this information found? The White Book states what paint colors were available with RPO Z03, but it doesn't say that this color came with this color stripe, etc.

On a side note, I just noticed that the W.B. says that "Chevrolet records indicate that 183 Camaros were specially painted non-standard colors in 1992". Do you suppose some of those could have been B4Cs that were ordered with a Caprice color so that a department's fleet would have had matching colored cop cars? Is it also possible (although not probable) that maybe Chevrolet considered an unavailable color/stripe combination a "non-standard color" ?

The world may never know.

 

So 91 and 92 T/As could be had with L98 and T-Tops, huh? I didn't know that. I thought it was like with the Z28 where that combo wasn't available for some strange reason.
So could Formulas, Trans Ams, and GTAs have the L98 with T-tops?

 

No, 91 & 92 Firebird were NOT available with T-Tops and a 350, atleast to the masses anyway. I've found only about 3 91 GTA with this combo and no 92's.......

 

Blue502 why did you tell him to list the RPO codes or a picture of the RPO sheet if it doesn't tell you what color the stripes are? LOL.

 

i have seen a 350 in just about every year gta or ta with t-tops.....however i don't look into pontiac as much so i don't know for fact that they are not just modded or actual factory products.

you can look up pontiac historical services, the guy who runs it lives close to myself and would be able to answer just about any question possible.

pontiac is not like chevrolet........they did have t-tops with their 350's...it was only the early 90's chevy z28 models that were in concern.



also, it is possible as well as it is definate that some dealerships offered special dealer editions as well as optional stripe, t-top, and many other mods that weren't available through the factory.......if you had the money and wanted something it could be done.

the whole point was that gm never deligated anything different than the known colors as well as didn't produce any late model z28's with 350 and t-tops. if you see one it's a C&C custom or someone elses mod. just because it isn't available from gm doesn't mean it isn't out there........but, gm doesn't recognize these as official gm products. therefore these cars won't get the true "collector" price if your concerned about it.

 

I think that those 183 specially painted Camaros were B4C's with a paint code of 01L/01U. They were black and white cars that went to Texas DPS. Most of them were five speed cars!

 

Texas, Wyoming, Idaho, Kansas, and California all had Black and White O1l/O1U B4C Camaro's as David M stated. I would be 100% sure that all 183 cars were if fact the B4C's. California had 21, Texas probably over 100, and the other 3 states roughly 20 a piece.

 

Because I wasn't aware of that fact at the time. I'm an '85-'90 man myself, and I figured the stripe color would show in the codes. But I did some research, and found that the existance of the stripes only showed via the Z03 code, not individually. I assume this is correct as no one has shouted out that it isn't true, and I have no way to directly verify.

Only way I can think to verify now would be a pic of the car new at the dealership (my dealer did that for every new car delivery when I bought my '86, and made each buyer a full year poster calendar with the photo at the top, ultra cool mine is nicely stored away), the original dealership ordering info showing black stripes specified (not much chance of that), or maybe a notorized statement from the original owner (and that would still be suspect).

Just about anything you could imagine escaped from GM's assembly lines back in the 60s and early 70s, but by the 80s GM had pretty much made it impossible to order anything unique. No blue Camaros with white stripes and red interiors (like happened in '69) for example. Still, anything is possible, and I would love to see some unique examples get proven if they really exist.

 

Where would one go to get proof of what they have, and how rare it actually is? there is alot of info out here on the information highway, and myself, dont believe half of what is said, and question the other Half. any help?i just purchased a 92 heritage z, with L 98, and am looking for some sort of info onit. thanks

 

just a pic of my new ride, love these heritages!

 

bdog52,

very nice

Chet

 

bdog52, start your own thread! Seriously, thats one nice looking car and deserves some recognition instead of being lost here in this thread.

 

nickL98 =full of crap

i know alot of crap about third gen's but i know i don't know everything.

anyway just a pic of my orignal 92 Z28

 

I may be mistaken, but i thought this thread was about updating heritage info, i was hoping to gather some info, and possibly add some, but looks like some dont want that.everyones loss!

 

bdog, you were getting a compliment on your car and were being told to start a new thread so more people can see your car. It wasn't a slam towards you. Let everyone see what you have by starting a new thread telling everyone about your car.

 

NickL98 i believe you, I just bought one of the rareest cars of all time a 1992 Camaro Z28 TypeR. It is loaded with everything down to a chromed out radiator cap. Come on guys let be sensible here!

If you've got something that we all believe doesn't exist, you had better be getting some pictures of it. Sometimes dealers/factories did odd things with cars, we like to see the proof.

bdog, nice car i like it. You should start a thread, i'd like to hear some more about your car also.

 

I realize that it was a compliment, and dont get me wrong, i want others to enjoy what i have, as i do, guess i was just repling to what i thought was a thread about heritage z's.but enough about my belly aching!

 

bradkeith,

What is a 1992 Camaro Z28 TypeR?

I do not want to upset you but is your car a factory produced camaro?

It sound more like a dealership prep car. Any other info on yours.

Manny

 

uh, me thinks he was being sarcastic...

 

The TypeR is an import. You know, Vtec, more stickers means faster car, etc. I think he was being sarcastic. There is no such beast!!!

 

In my earlier post (Matt427), I think my last question about non-standard paint colors made everybody forget about the first question I had asked. I'd still like to know where the Z03 paint color/stripe color information can be seen in print. Again, I'm not questioning it, I just like to see things for myself rather than just rely on message board word of mouth.

 

it was answered........if you don't understand go ask your dealership, they never listed the stripe color in any of the rpo codes. it was just known as well as very well documented what gm intended and sold for "their" package.

seeing as how they are only vinyl....it was very easy for people to mix an match as well as some dealerships offered their own "special-edition".

it is very common to see any year running around with the "heritage" stripes because they are so available. gm didn't make them so they aren't stock.....end of story.

 

HA HA HA HA, really?

 

Look pal, I'm not some idiot who doesn't understand how to glean information from what I read. I have seen nothing in this thread thus far that has led me to believe that there was any written proof that only certain color combinations could exist. That was the question, "where is this information written?". You say it was "very well documented". Tell me where, I want to see it for myself.
I'll admit that the commonly accepted color combinations are the only ones I've ever seen, but to assume that an assembly line worker couldn't, or wouldn't have done something that was out of the ordinary is laughable. Many cars, from every manufacturer, have left the factory over the years with equipment and/or color combinations (interior/exterior) that were not supposed to be available. Whether they were mistakes or done on purpose, it did, and still does happen. A friend of my parents ordered a '89 Mercury Sable and the salesman checked the wrong color interior for the paint color he had chosen. He was contacted by Ford and informed that the color combination he had chosen was not a standard combination, and they even went so far as to say that it would not be an attractive combination, but that if he really wanted it, they'd build it for him. Another one that comes to mind that I have actually seen for myself was when the Neon first became available, I saw one at the dealership that had a Dodge emblem on the trunk, and a Plymouth emblem on the hood.
I agree that it isn't likely that a white with black stripes Z03 is factory original.I also think that with the lack of an RPO to call out the stripe color, unless you stood at the end of the assembly line and saw every Camaro that rolled out the door during the 1992 model year, you can't say that it's impossible. All it would have taken is for the guy that applied the stripes to grab a black set instead of a red set, not all together impossible if you ask me.

 

no, you look bud; i don't know why you insist on stating the same thing you said earlier; i wasn't putting you down hense the smiley face..........

look on the internet and read a few books, if your that die hard for the info check your dealership if you still can or try to contact scott settlemier or someone similar.

or you could drive out here to the camaro superfest in annarbor this summer an attend some of the camaro lectures where the heads of gm will tell you what was and wasn't.

like anything in life, there are always the few that get loose; everyone knows that. but, it isn't the issue. gm never intentionally made those colors so unless your a fan of white with black stripes they aren't worth much.