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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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RS 3rd brake light?

Does anyone know what year the RS came with a 3rd brake light in the spoiler?
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:12 AM
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my 89 RS has it..
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 09:09 AM
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I'm pretty sure they did....but I know the 91 and 92's didn't....they had the third brake light in the rear hatch
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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all late 87+ cars equipped with the rear SPOILER got them.

if you look at the lense, it even says DOT 87 on it.


intresting side fact... before GM made their own lense, the 87 convertibles had a ford truck 3rd brake light mounted in it.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 12:23 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
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86 top of hatch (outside)
87-90 in spoiler (camaro), or under spoiler (firebird)
91-92 Top of hatch (inside)

the DOT and the year seems to be the first year a lens was introduced.

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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by okfoz
86 top of hatch (outside)
87-90 in spoiler (camaro), or under spoiler (firebird)
91-92 Top of hatch (inside)
To add to that, 87 Sport Coupes without the spoiler had the 86 style light on top of the glass.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
that would make sence.

John
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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intresting side fact... before GM made their own lense, the 87 convertibles had a ford truck 3rd brake light mounted in it.

Almost 100 percent correct. The lamp was manufactured by Ford. The "Ford" logo was then sanded flat by ASC and used on the convertibles. This lamp is not bolted to the spoiler, but onto a bracket that bolts to the lid underneath the spoiler. In essence, it "floats". This lamp was used on the Ford Country Squire station wagon.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by Willie
intresting side fact... before GM made their own lense, the 87 convertibles had a ford truck 3rd brake light mounted in it.

Almost 100 percent correct. The lamp was manufactured by Ford. The "Ford" logo was then sanded flat by ASC and used on the convertibles. This lamp is not bolted to the spoiler, but onto a bracket that bolts to the lid underneath the spoiler. In essence, it "floats". This lamp was used on the Ford Country Squire station wagon.

the light on my roomates 87 never had the ford logo sanded off it. its still there.
and shes the only owner.


i thought it was a truck though? could it have been used by ford on both the station wagon and the pickups?
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
As for a similar topic, and I hope it does not go much past this, but my 67 Buick Riv has the exact same trunk lock mechanism bolt pattern as a 74 Ford Thunderbird.

Go fig.

I imagine there are more parts like that than we care to imagine.

John
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 06:04 PM
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the light on my roomates 87 never had the ford logo sanded off it. its still there and shes the only owner.

Well, I guess that's one that ASC missed or didn't take the time to sand. I talked to Brian Jaros, who worked at ASC in the late 80s and he told me they sanded the logo off.


i thought it was a truck though? could it have been used by ford on both the station wagon and the pickups?

I have not researched this so I suppose it is possible. I do know conclusively that it was used on the station wagon. I've personally seen several.

Willie
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 02:21 AM
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Any one have a picture of this?

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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by cdartz
To add to that, 87 Sport Coupes without the spoiler had the 86 style light on top of the glass.
Wow, this is interesting. I was under the impression that only 86s came with this style 3rd brake light. Anyone have a pic of an 87 with it?
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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It looks the same as an 86. The sport coupe that didn't have a spoiler required the 3rd brake light, so the 86 style was used.
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 09:39 AM
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Did all 88 Sport Coupes come with a spoiler, or do they have the 86 style 3rd brake light without a spoiler as well?
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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All 88s have a spoiler. It might be the shorty spoiler or the regular, but they all had them in 88. Prior to 88, there were multiple model offerings for the Camaro (Belinetta, SC, Z28, LT, etc). Starting in 88, it was the IROC-Z or the Sport Coupe. Nothing else.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by scottmoyer
All 88s have a spoiler. It might be the shorty spoiler or the regular, but they all had them in 88. Prior to 88, there were multiple model offerings for the Camaro (Belinetta, SC, Z28, LT, etc). Starting in 88, it was the IROC-Z or the Sport Coupe. Nothing else.
Was there no RS in '88? There was in '89 and '90, but I'm not familiar with '88.

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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 07:21 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
87 RS only in CA.

88, there was an RS, but it was only in California, Texas and one other place.

89-92 RS everywhere, no more SC.

John
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by 89_IROC_98U
Was there no RS in '88? There was in '89 and '90, but I'm not familiar with '88.

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okfoz is correct in his post above mine, but I'd also like to mention something. It's true there wasn't a nationally available RS in 88, but the Sport Coupe for all intents and purposes was an RS. In 88 all sport coupes got the full ground effect package and 15" five spoke wheels. The only difference between an 88 Sport Coupe and an 89 RS is the badging, and the fact that some 88s got a different rear spoiler.

Btw, holy old post resurection.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by cdartz
okfoz is correct in his post above mine, but I'd also like to mention something. It's true there wasn't a nationally available RS in 88, but the Sport Coupe for all intents and purposes was an RS. In 88 all sport coupes got the full ground effect package and 15" five spoke wheels. The only difference between an 88 Sport Coupe and an 89 RS is the badging, and the fact that some 88s got a different rear spoiler.
You guys are awesome...absolutely excellent information!

Btw, holy old post resurection.
I do that from time to time

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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by 89_IROC_98U
You guys are awesome...absolutely excellent information!
We do what we can.
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