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Old Aug 19, 2001 | 11:01 AM
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IROCZ WITH V6 ?

Hey this year i ve seen 2 camaros on sale ....it said z28 ...when i opened the hood it was a V6 inside ....are this fake Z28s ? i heard of an import V6 Zs ...i dont know ..someone knows?

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Old Aug 19, 2001 | 12:05 PM
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I have never heard of a 6 cyl. Z or Iroc, I would say they are fakes.

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Old Aug 19, 2001 | 12:08 PM
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No V6 Z28's or IROC-Z's in a Camaro. Check the VIN and RPO codes for confirmation.

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Old Aug 19, 2001 | 03:21 PM
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Maybe they were wrecked , and when they replaced the ground effects from a IROC or Z28 they did not change the emblems .Wayne
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Old Aug 19, 2001 | 04:54 PM
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The V6 is listed as being available in export Z28's though I don't know if any were ever produced. Actually the only listing of this that I have in actual GM documentation specifically regards the '86 Z/28 and Saudi Arabia. Couldn't tell you if it also applied to other export countries. GM did some wierd things when it came to exports, for example, how many of you have even seen a picture of the IROC grid style export taillight lenses? I would pay big bucks to get ahold of a set.

Sam, if you look at the rpo code sheets and it lists both Z28 and LB8 (or other V6 code), it is real. If so, please get a pic of the rpo sheet and post it here for proof (even if you aren't interested in buying it). If you can still locate the car, please do. This would provide a huge service to the thirdgen community.

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Old Aug 19, 2001 | 05:14 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Blue502:
Not quite true Willie. The V6 is listed as being available in export Z28's though I don't know if any were ever produced.</font>
My statement reflects reference material I have. No speculation or guessing involved in anything I put in print, unless I specifically state it.

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Old Aug 19, 2001 | 05:25 PM
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I understand that Willie, and wasn't trying to state anything to the contrary. I was saying that I have original documentation in my possession that states that it is possible that some may have been produced. I see how you could have taken my statement personally, and will edit it appropriately.
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Old Aug 19, 2001 | 07:33 PM
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Understood. I do not have any information on export units, including drivetrain, options, or even production numbers. It appears that they are not even included in total production figures found in many references. Does anyone have ANY information on these?

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Old Aug 19, 2001 | 08:14 PM
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Kinda of funny. Of all places to get a V6 IROC would be Saudi. Land of cheap gas! Seems every car imported over there has to be a major gas hog! They are famous for having tons of Impalas, Burbans etc.
I'd believe a Big Block IROC before a V6 IROC heading to Saudi!

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Old Aug 20, 2001 | 11:36 AM
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What do the export taillight lenses look like?

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Old Aug 20, 2001 | 12:07 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by super83Z:
What do the export taillight lenses look like?

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yeah, i'd love to see that myself
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Old Aug 20, 2001 | 12:36 PM
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I remember seeing a set when I was a senior in HS. It looked like the standard grid style, except the yellow (orange) and red were switched. I thought it was aftermarket at first, but maybe they were purchased overseas and used here in the states. Much like '93-'97 Japanesse tail lights from Camaros are used on some here in the states.

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Old Aug 20, 2001 | 03:15 PM
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George is exactly correct. I've never seen them in person, but I have seen a picture before. Unfortunately I don't know the part # or have a copy of the pic.

Some friends of mine are running the Japaneese export lenses on their 4thgen Camaro SS ('99 convert). I guess the story goes someone found the part # and ordered all 10 or so sets that gm had available. My friends bought 2 sets. I'll try to get a link to pics of their car so you guys can see them, if there is any interest. I suspect the thirdgen lenses were in just as short of supply, and are probably not available even if we had a part #.
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Old Aug 20, 2001 | 03:40 PM
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Here are the links to my friends' 4thgen since I found them quickly:

Closeup view

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Old Aug 22, 2001 | 05:36 PM
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just a thought... a z28 or iroc was possible w/ a v6, but export only. Sammy lives in Chile. derrr. export.
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Old Aug 24, 2001 | 06:25 AM
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If I remember correctly, most countries outside the US require Orange directional signals and sidemarker lamps. One of the big reasons. Also GMHTP had a sidebar about export4th gens with photos. SOme countries have seat back height requirements so Camaro's going to that country got Firebird seats, etc.


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Old Aug 24, 2001 | 01:04 PM
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I remember seeing that too. didn't they have some wierd type of rear foglights too?
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Old Aug 24, 2001 | 04:17 PM
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I'd like to see a picture of those export 3rd gen taillights. Does anyone have one?
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Old Aug 25, 2001 | 12:32 AM
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Well, I'm bored so I'll help you out here. I have a 1982-1992 Camaro Parts & Illustration Catalog with an effective date of May 1992.
For those of you who may not know what this is, it is the paper version parts book that the Chevrolet Parts Department would have had to look up whatever it is you were looking to buy for a 1982 to 1992 Camaro back in the summer of 1992. It show what was still available at that time. EVERY SINGLE PART!! Two three inch binders full.

For rear taillight lens for export. Shows available:

85-87 FP T89,T90(EXPORT)...16503505 LH 138.00
LENS, W/CLOSEOUT, RR COMB LP

85-88 FP T89,T90(EXPORT)...16503506 RH 138.00
LENS, W/CLOSEOUT, RR COMB LP

85-87 FP T90(EXPORT)...16503341 LH 22.10
APPLIQUE, RR COMB LP (This is the black piece between the license plate and the lens)

85-87 FP T90(EXPORT)...16503342 RH 22.10
APPLIQUE, RR COMB LP (This is the black piece between the license plate and the lens)

85-87 FP T90(EXPORT)...16503501 LH 84.00
HOUSING, RR COMB LP

85-87 FP T90(EXPORT)...16503502 RH 84.00
HOUSING, RR COMB LP

85-87 FP T89(EXPORT)...16503619 LH 84.00
HOUSING, RR COMB LP

85-87 FP T89(EXPORT)...16503620 RH 84.00
HOUSING, RR COMB LP

So there you go. Those three different pieces make up a lamp assembly. It looks like there are two variations for the housing themselves, probably related to the inside reflectivity of the housing finish.

I haven't run those numbers thru the dealers nationwide parts search but I feel pretty certain it would come up with a big zero.
If anyone finds anything, please let me know.
Have fun.

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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob P
Kinda of funny. Of all places to get a V6 IROC would be Saudi. Land of cheap gas! Seems every car imported over there has to be a major gas hog! They are famous for having tons of Impalas, Burbans etc.
I'd believe a Big Block IROC before a V6 IROC heading to Saudi!

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that's true you wouldn't believe the number of old caprice and impala we have people here used to love big cars with big engines in other word american cars
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 07:08 AM
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You do know you just brought back a five year old post with people that probably dont even own a thirdgen anymore,dont ya??
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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Wow, this is definately one of the oldest revived threads I've seen!

Ever find out if the car was a V6 Z28?
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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Was it the GT-Z lol..Thar was one funky looking concept car.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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Yes, you are correct. That was a V6 car... though I'm not sure what motor. I think the 3.8.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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chevy 3.8 (4thgen style) or buick 3.8 (GTX/TTA style) ? a camaro with a turbo6 would be the ultimate sleeper. no one would expect it.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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this is a a pic of a z28 export

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/atta...g?d=1133425028
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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Taillaight from a Z28-E




Just some details.
No Iroc available for export cause only 82 to 84 Z28 are available for export.
If your interested in Z28-E, i can give you more details.
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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Thats funny cause I have a 86 Camaro with 2.8 emblems on it, and it has a TPI 350 with a Tremec 5 speed. Did my Camaro get the IROC motor and the IROC get my 2.8 v6??
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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You mean Borg Warner, not Tremec... right? Also, no 350 came with a 5 speed, so it must have been swapped... so I suppose anything is possible lol
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 07:13 AM
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You mean Borg Warner, not Tremec... right? Also, no 350 came with a 5 speed, so it must have been swapped... so I suppose anything is possible lol
No, my Camaro does have the TPI 350 with a Tremec TKO 5 speed. It has to be factory, espically with the 2.8 emblems..
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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lol

Did they swap the springs too, or does the car ride low in the front?
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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I swapped out the springs.... I mean it came with the IROC springs in it. Its a factory thing..
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Xophertony
chevy 3.8 (4thgen style) or buick 3.8 (GTX/TTA style) ? a camaro with a turbo6 would be the ultimate sleeper. no one would expect it.
Shhh 1992 Turbo Z28
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