Hi All,
I just purchased a 1985 Z27 Camaro. I was trying to find a Camaro site when I found thirdgen. I didn't get the manual with the car, so have been trying to find any info I can on the car. My vin states it as a sport coupe, Z28. The car has the original paint and decals which say Z27. So what is it? It is a 5 speed standard with a T-top. I checked out the archives, found a few articles on the Z27. But I would like as much info as anyone out there could pass my way. I thank all in advance for any help.
Pam

 

There is no such thing as a Z27 Camaro, only Z28.

Z27 is actually the RPO for the SS option 69-72.

 

I'd have to agree, if its badged Z27 it was someones creative attempt to make the car special. Post your cars VIN number but leave off the last 6 digits and we can probably tell you what the car is. Unfortunately from the VIN alone the only information will be whether its a Berlinetta or a Sport Coupe/Z28. GM only used two different characters one designates the car was either a Sport Coupe, or a Z28, the other designates the car a Berlinetta.

Does the car have ground effect panels? What about the wheels?

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Is it blue? Did you buy it on ebay?

 

It's red. And I didn't buy it off ebay.

 

Drew,
Here is my vin - 1G1FP87SXFL
Ground effect panels? I have no idea what that is. Sorry.The wheels. I don't know. I'll have to find out and let you know. They have 5 spokes, not chrome. I know - dumb broad. (But willing to learn.)I will post a pic soon.
Thanks
Pam

 

I'm as as ever.
Pam

 

Welcome aboard!

Are we sure that Z27 wasn't used as a marketing scheme? It's been mentioned before and it seems there are a few cars out there claiming to be this "Z27". I'd think the badging means something at the very least. They didn't make thirdgen SS's though.

Sounds like a nice ride anyhow.

Edit: disregard my last edit LOL

[This message has been edited by ChillPhatCat (edited December 12, 2001).]

 

Ok, here's what your VIN tells us...
Here are the results for your query on: 1G1FP87SXFL111111
Made in: United States
Manufacturer: General Motors
Make: Chevrolet
Carline Code: F-Body
Carline Series: Sport Coupe, Z28
Body Type: 2 door coupe
Engine Code: 173 ci V6 LB8 (1986)
X is the CHECK DIGIT.
Model Year: 1985
Assembly Plant: Van Nuys
Production Sequence: 111111

The production sequence is substituted, the last 6 digits of your VIN is your actual production sequence. Anyway, on to the meat. The 8th digit is an S which indicates a 2.8L V6 with MPFI. The Z28 was never available with the 2.8 so we know the car isn't a Z28. Since the carline series tells us its either a Sport Coupe or a Z28, and we know its not a Z28 we can determine that the car is a Sport Coupe. I'll see if I can find some pictures for you to explain what the other questions refer to.

 

Here's a 85 Sport Coupe borrowed from the thirdgen rides on this site. The wheels in this picture aren't correct for the Sport Coupe. Typically a 85 sport coupe would have steel 14 or 15" wheels with a chrome trim ring and plastic centercap with a camaro logo.
Conversely here's a 85 Z28. Note the plastic skirting around the bottom edge of the car, that the above sport coupe doesn't share. Those are the GFX or ground effects.

also the wheels on this car are correct for a 85 Z28.

It would be interesting to see what parts from a Z28 may have been added to your sport coupe when the Z27 badging was added. Right off I'm gonna guess it was a dealership promotion, or an aftermarket conversion of some kind.

 

Drew,
The wheels look the same as mine. I do have the camaro logo on the plastic middle cover. There is no ground effects on it. There is a rear spoiler. I have not seen one like it on the board though. So I do not know if it's factory or after market.
Thanks.
Pam

 

betcha somebody parted out a '88 (since you said it has a spoiler but you haven't seen it before, the 88 sport coupe spoilers aren't too common) are the center caps silver? if they are and they say camaro, they might be from a '88

here are two pics of my car showing my spoiler.



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'88 Camaro - For Sale, $1900
3200 Stall TC, B&M Transkit, Flowmaster CB, CAI
Z/28 Hood, Z/28 Grille, Foglamps, IROC Wheels
White Face Gauges, DRLs

'94 B4U Grand Prix SE
Charcoal Crosslace Wheels, DRLs, CAI
Clear Tails, De-Badged, A\M Exhaust

 

The Z28 wheels (later SC wheels in 88, and RS wheels in later years) with gray centercaps could be from an 88 Sport Coupe, or off a later RS without the color coordinated wheels. They aren't a very expensive upgrade so its not too much of a stretch to think someone added them.

 

SlowCamaro,
My spoiler has no center caps. Is connected on the ends. Otherwise is very similar to yours.
Pam

Slow Camaro,
My post about no center caps on the spoiler was utterly
wrong. How am I??? I temporarily lost my mind is my only thought!
The spoiler does have center caps. They are closer to the
ends than yours. And are connected there as well. Does not
say Camaro on them. So it is probably after market.
Again, sorry for the insanity. I feel like a real A$$.
Pam

 

N/M

 

There's no such thing as a Z27 as stated above. VIN decoding tells the whole story about a car, at least what matters most, namely the engine that came in it. The only kind of Camaro in 85 that came with the 2.8 was the base-model Sport Coupe, so it's absolutely certain that you have one of those.

Anybody can swap wheels (like the gold one in the pic, those aren't original) and any trim shop can put some pretty realistic-looking stickers on a car. For example, none of those silly-looking Honda Civics you see around came from the factory with "VTec" stickers or "Powered by Honda" stickers either, and I'm sure that those people would consider non-factory stickers to be just as humorous on a non-perfromance Camaro as we think of all those "... Motorsports" stickers as being on a miniauture grocery cart. Same for ground effects: anybody can buy some used and stick them on their car, it's quite popular in fact. It's the same thing. Ignore all of that as far as identifying the car, they are meaningless, somebody's idea of humor or what looks good to them or something, but not inherently "part of the car" any more than a Kenwood stereo or BF Goodrich tires are "part of the car" from the factory.

If it's a nice car, enjoy it; if you're not completely satisfied with it (like most of the people on this BBS!!) then mod it. Rest assured it's nothing special in any way as far as its factory options. Your car's value or worth is not affected by those stickers.

 

RB83L69,
I never said the car was something special or worth more because it has the Z27 stickers on it. I just wanted to find out about the beast. Come painting time, it will not have any
stickers whatsoever. I'm already wanting mods done as well.
Just have to talk my old boy into them.
I've really appreciated all the info. all you guys have sent my way.
Later.
Pam

Merry Christmas to all!

 

I just found this through the search.. just a heads up that the Z27 Camaro does exist in 1986. It's similar to the famed 1984 F41 Camaro. It was a marketing scheme either by a group of dealers or a specific region. Again, I have only seen these car in the northeast. Hope this helps, but if not, it was an old topic anyway. It was just a decal package I think.

 

I have an 86 Z27. (the reason I went searching and found this incredible site is I want to put a 350 into it) Purchased from original owner. Still have all maint records from dealership. Might even have original bill of sale. I also have an 88. Not exactly sure what it is. Z28 ground effects, stinger hood. I think IROC wheels. not as many options in it as the Z27.

By the way, there is another one in my town, and I have seen another in a larger city near me.

 

If it was just a decal package, then I will have to check the VIN to see what I have (on the 88 as well). My Z27 has T-roof, air, cruise, tilt, pwr drivers seat, pwr windows, pwr antena, auto trans. Is that just a sport coupe with some options?

 

Welcome aboard!
You will find tgo one of the best sites for thirggen related info. Don't forget to use the search function - you'd be surprized how much amazing info is hiding in here!.
-Andrew

 

Notice the original post date... circa 2001, damn I remember posting that response up there too.