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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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Camaro owned by dodge?

This sounds crazy and i dont beleive it but some one told me that around the 1970's the camaro name was bought by dodge. Chevy kept building it but it was actually a dodge? plz tell me my car is not a dodge lol.
Old Dec 22, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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Absolutly not...
Old Dec 22, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

Never happened.

However, Chevrolet DID license the "IROC" name from the people it belongs to, the International Race Of Champions; and were entitled to use it on cars for the run of the contract. The contract ran out at the end of 1989. Chevrolet decided not to renew it, because they saw little to no point in paying out the wahzoo on a racing series where all they got to race was other identical Chevrolets. Not much marketing punch there, when sure, a Chevy won; but 11 others also lost. So the last IROC Camaros were 90 models, built in the first half of the 90 model year. By that time however, the name "IROC" as a car model, was thoroughly entrenched in the mind of the public.

Dodge licensed the name next, and used it for a year or 2 on some little FWD POS that they were making. People laughed. Didn't last too long.

No high-profile car co. sponsor has appeared for IROC since then. They've been running 4th gen Firebirds for the last few years, with no auto mfr brand identification whatsoever on the cars. Not that they're actually "Firebirds"; they're full tube-chassis NASCAR type race cars, merely with Firebird-resembling sheet metal stuck on them. Pretty funny that they're using a body that's been out of production for all these years. And as is of course typical of them, Pontiac has not ACTUALLY participated in that race series at all, as a manufacturer; AFAIK IROC has just been buying the bodywork from them as a customer. Ironically, Pontiac has a history of naming their cars after speed and racing activities they have no connection with: LeMans, Grand Prix, Trans Am, Can Am, Bonneville, to name a few that come right to the top of my mind; while not using their connections to the extremely few forms of motorsports that they actually DID participate in (NASCAR specifically).

That's probably the series of events that got garbled.
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

Originally Posted by Ben92
This sounds crazy and i dont beleive it but some one told me that around the 1970's the camaro name was bought by dodge. Chevy kept building it but it was actually a dodge? plz tell me my car is not a dodge lol.
As mentioned before, "never happened".
Damn funny though.

Actually, I'd be surprised if Chrysler(Dodge) could afford to buy anything in the '70's! They were so financially screwed-up back then that it took Lee Iacocca in the early 80's to completely rebuild the company and his little hot selling K-Car (remember those?) to rescue the almost bankrupt company.
Dodge almost didn't exist anymore!!!

PS; Here's a pic of the fancy shmancy Dodge Iroc . . .
Old Dec 23, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

Oh yeah! I forgot about those. They were pretty snazzy looking, but that's about it.
Old Dec 23, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

Thanks for all the replys, i thought it was crazy and wasa pretty sure it never happen, just thought i would ask though.
Old Dec 23, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

Always good to ask. You never know what the answers might be.

Now go tell that guy he owes you a drink!
Old Dec 23, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

Actually, I'd be surprised if Chrysler(Dodge) could afford to buy anything in the '70's! They were so financially screwed-up back then that it took Lee Iacocca in the early 80's to completely rebuild the company and his little hot selling K-Car (remember those?) to rescue the almost bankrupt company.
Dodge almost didn't exist anymore!!!



rescue? not even with all that work... it still needed the gov. to step in twice and hand over a "loan" to keep there heads just above water. see the funny thing with dodge is they make a car/truck every once in awhile that with the built up tv glamor sell ok. and you think alright they are getting going again and then bam! trouble there slipping off the cliff and it all starts over again.



GM just has dumb luck. take there selling of the investments and companys they owned. GMAC to show a good one. they get out of this just in time for interest rates to rise and the housing to fall flat on it's face with people in the mortgages forclosing at all time highs
Old Dec 23, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

Just an update to a statement made in error...

The 1990 run of IROC-Zs was produced in 1989. No 1990 Camaro was built in 1990.
Old Dec 23, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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hahaha
Old Dec 23, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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what about that volkswagen iroc???

jk

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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

hmm then what happend to that beasty honda iroc
Old Dec 23, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

actually the real name was the "hondaroc" only available in japan from 86-87 on the civic. the engine was the 1.3l quadra-charged stroker with 6 over head cams and also came with an optional 5" 6 pipe exhaust.
Old Dec 23, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

yea thats the one
Old Dec 23, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

creepingdeath I simply cannot believe how childlike you are being...i mean come on give honda a break already....you can't just leave out important detail it had a DECAL on it...can't forget the decal *rollseyes*



i mean seriously....the car you describe would just look stupid
Old Dec 23, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

Yeah like I would give any honda a break. They all suck if you ask me. It's chevy or bust.
Old Dec 23, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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dude, did you read my whole post? i was *totally* not defending honda...LOL
Old Dec 23, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

The first Irocs were Porsches
http://www.pbase.com/slidevalve911rs...tory_cars_iroc

Porsche doesn't own the Camaro or Dodge name

But Mercedes Benz did own the Dodge name
Old Dec 23, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

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actually the real name was the "hondaroc" only available in japan from 86-87 on the civic. the engine was the 1.3l quadra-charged stroker with 6 over head cams and also came with an optional 5" 6 pipe exhaust.
hey would it be this one?


or this one?


or maybe this one...
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this thread has served its purpose, now mods please lock it.

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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 12:27 AM
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

im new to this website but ive already learn alot. i didnt know all this about dodge and camaro. keep it coming guys..
Old Dec 24, 2007 | 12:32 AM
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

Originally Posted by camaro91
hey would it be this one?
Ummmm.....Why does that Rustang have Honda badges on it?

I mean....it's an UPGRADE for the Rustang, but stilllll
Old Dec 24, 2007 | 12:35 AM
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Its interesting how " IROC" was used by so many manufactures. Whats with wanting to lock this post?
Old Dec 24, 2007 | 02:22 AM
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

Originally Posted by Stephen
Ummmm.....Why does that Rustang have Honda badges on it?

I mean....it's an UPGRADE for the Rustang, but stilllll
Look at Stephen trying to make jokes. Just playing w/ you.
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Re: Camaro owned by dodge?

Originally Posted by 86blackiroc
Oh yeah! I forgot about those. They were pretty snazzy looking, but that's about it.
You would probably loose to one then. If you had an IROC R/T, then you'd just about mop up any TPI 3rd gen. I had a '92 Spirit R/T and easily beat Mustangs and even some "new" 4th gen Z28's. I had it at the track only once back in '93 and it ran 14.4@100 with a horrible 2.3 short time. Daytona's were .1 second faster.

These were 224hp cars that weighed 3100 lbs. Even the ad for the Spirit back then(1991) claimed it was the most HP ever produced from Dodge per cubic inch.

The R/T cars were no slouches for sure. The regular IROC Daytona's though were just run of the mill 3.0 V6's.
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