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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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Hottest Camaro ever?

November 1984 popular Hot Rodding. Very cool! 1984 IROC street and race car.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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Nice! I agree, the IROC-Z's are the hottest Camaros ever.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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did they make an 84 IROC? thought 85 was the first year.. somebody wanna clearify?? maybe im just a jacka$$ lol
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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btw is love to get those GFX they had on those race cars. theyd rub on ever little bump i wne over but theyd be cool as hell lol
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ca[maro]88
did they make an 84 IROC? thought 85 was the first year.. somebody wanna clearify?? maybe im just a jacka$$ lol
The 1984 IROC racer and the 1985 IROC-Z for the street.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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ah thank you. sorry for my stupidity!
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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ah thank you. sorry for my stupidity!
My bad, I ment to say 1985, It says the street IROC has 3.73 gears, Do you think they ment 3.42 with the auto.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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I find it REALLY interesting that they say it was the Faster than the 1969 they tested. It blows my mind that the third gen gets all sorts of slack for being "Slow". One day they will wake up, One day I tell you! and it is not too far off...

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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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Re: Hottest Camaro ever?

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I find it REALLY interesting that they say it was the Faster than the 1969 they tested. It blows my mind that the third gen gets all sorts of slack for being "Slow". One day they will wake up, One day I tell you! and it is not too far off...

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Speaking of this, and I forgot to mention this in the post about the Camaro Milestones magazine, for the Third Generation Camaro timeline section, the headline is "Less Power, More Styling".
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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I find it REALLY interesting that they say it was the Faster than the 1969 they tested. It blows my mind that the third gen gets all sorts of slack for being "Slow". One day they will wake up, One day I tell you! and it is not too far off...

John
Not only faster, 0.92 G's I used to have a 1968 RS/SS 396 convertible and my brother in law had a brand new 1988 black 350 IROC-z convertible. When we raced his IROC blew the doors off of my SS 396. I was on stock F-70X14 bias ply red line tires.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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Re: Hottest Camaro ever?

stock for stock i can see what you mean mr396, i mean bias plys on 14s wouldn't do as much as 16x8s radials! especially with the given larger contact patch the 3rd gen maros have are exceptional piece of handling charateristics...plus they're lower to the ground then the 1st gens...
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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Re: Hottest Camaro ever?

Originally Posted by mr396
my brother in law had a brand new 1988 black 350 IROC-z convertible. When we raced his IROC blew the doors off of my SS 396. I was on stock F-70X14 bias ply red line tires.
You mean his new 305 convertible beat the 396 convertible.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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You mean his new 305 convertible beat the 396 convertible.
I thought it was a 350 but that was 21 years ago. My 396 was the L34 350 hp and it was loaded with everything including a/c. I had two other people in my car and he was alone, my camaro just smoked the rear tires and he was gone.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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Nah, there was never an L98 convertible Third Gen. Most 1st Gens were pretty slow with very few actually being fast, and being fast back then was 14's and quick was 15's. Even less were in the 13's which was super fast for the time. Expectations were raised by the 80's and the public had already been taught that all 60's/early 70's muscle were insanely fast 12 second cars stock. (which is verrrrry far from the truth)
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 07:32 AM
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My bad, I ment to say 1985, It says the street IROC has 3.73 gears, Do you think they ment 3.42 with the auto.
The above is clearly not an L69, and as far as I know, the only OE 3.73's were in manual L69's.

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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 12:14 AM
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Although I'm not a Camaro guy, 85-87 IROC's are really cool in my book.

edit: a picture a friend of mine snapped with a cool vanity plate.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 06:38 AM
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i was 20 when they changed the body style in 1982 and it was love at first site. when they came out with the iroc in 1985 i had to have one. that was my first new car! still love them.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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it's interesting how the spoiler on the red car looks very much like the aftermarket 5" spoiler
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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Re: Hottest Camaro ever?

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it's interesting how the spoiler on the red car looks very much like the aftermarket 5" spoiler
There is a really good reason for this... The 5" spoiler was intended to be a to look like the IROC Race car Spoiler.

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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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I always though the Firebird was the Hot Camaro

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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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I knew a guy in Minnesota that owned an all original 69 Z28 with the factory headers installed. He was telling me at a car show that it's an abomination that my IROC-Z has Z28 badging on it. I informed him that my car was every bit as fast as his, if not faster. I got the look of "yeah, whatever". On my way home from the show, I saw him cruising down the road. I pulled up next to him and we both decided to see which was better. Neither car pulled away from the other. The next time he saw me, he mentioned that he has a new respect for the IROC-Z and that is very deservative of the Z28 monicker.

Now, in that same day, I was smoked terribly by a 2002 Z28 convertible (not an SS) from a rolling 40. I was left as if I was at a standstill. It was my dad's car so I know it had no mods to it. I can't imagine going up against a modified LS1 with a stock L98.
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Hottest would have been if GM brought out the 6sp LT-1 for the 25th anniversary.
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Re: Hottest Camaro ever?

Originally Posted by okfoz
There is a really good reason for this... The 5" spoiler was intended to be a to look like the IROC Race car Spoiler.

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I figured as much after seeing this picture. I didn't previously know there was a direct inspiration for the aftermarket piece.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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Re: Hottest Camaro ever?

I took a ride in one of those modified LS1 cars... Holy smoke was it a ride... it was actually in HPP mag 11 sec or 10 sec I forget...

I have often considered upgrading to an LS engine in my Yellow Formula... unfortunately Money and ambition limit me at this point. If I ever did it I think I would go whole hog, go with an LSx or at least and LS7esk engine. Maybe one of those new 5th Gen Camaro SS Engines... Normally Aspirated of course...

interestingly the fastest F-body is still a Third Gen, 1989 TTA or Firehawk, pick one.

Scott, One thing that I have learned, "There is always someone faster, better or whatever...."

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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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Re: Hottest Camaro ever?

Originally Posted by okfoz

interestingly the fastest F-body is still a Third Gen, 1989 TTA or Firehawk, pick one.

Scott, One thing that I have learned, "There is always someone faster, better or whatever...."

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Hey John, Not to hijack or get off subject but wouldn't the 69 2002 ZL1 cars (and Black Birds for that matter) be the fastest produced F-Body around? That and the original COPO and ZL1 cars were no slouch either (although I'm kinda partials to the third gen chickenhawks!)
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Re: Hottest Camaro ever?

Originally Posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8
You mean his new 305 convertible beat the 396 convertible.
And you just gave me an idea... Swaping an L98 into a Vert Iroc-z! That'd be a fun car =D

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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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Re: Hottest Camaro ever?

I guess you could count those, but I do not remember them being made by GM, I thought they were made by someone else. IIRC they were more or less aftermarket, kind of like the yenko's.

I would take one of your all stock 91/92 Firehawks against any All stock 1st Gen.

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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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Intresting, the IROC racer only weighs 100 lbs. more than the IROC street car. . .
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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John, the GMMG cars are in the same class as the Firehawks as none of them were factory cars. They were both modified after the fact.
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Did the GMMG cars have their own RPO code like the Firehawks and could you order them directly from the Dealership? I know the ZL1 cars were all supposed to be B4C cars but I can't remember if they also had a different RPO?

If you could order from a dealership then I would consider that factory...esp if they have a separate RPO.

I'd put car #26 up against any factory f body....even the GMMG (except maybe the Phase III cars.)

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